Interesting, though, didn't Mirror's Edge use UE3? 

Doesnt BC2 use fronstbite 2.0?

" @floodiastus:  BC2 uses Frostbite 1.5 "

" In class on iPod touch right now- I'll watch when I get home. "

@TooWalrus said:

" In class on iPod touch right now- I'll watch when I get home. "

Don't get your hopes too high while you wait. Even by tech demo standards, this is pretty dull.

People thought that was boring just because it didn't have any explosions in it? I thought it was interesting, raises my hopes for a proper PC Battlefield game.

They modeled what looked like a European area. 
 
Fighting under the Eiffel Tower would be neat. B|

That looked exactly like Mirror's Edge! Raises me hopes that a Mirror's Edge 2 will be made using this engine
 
Still find it strange that they used UE3 for the first one

I think this looks amazing and almost instantly I lose more faith in the player base when reading the comments under the video.
God forbid they'd release a tech video that shows anything but explosions and destruction.
 
Know what I see when I watch this video? A display of how the DX11 stuff will look like and, with the real time lighting effects, I almost get hopes for real time day cycle that affect where the sun will shine during the day.
Imagine that? Snipers getting a hard time in the second half of the match because suddenly the sun has moved over to their angle of fire and shadows have moved for people to hide in.
Amazing stuff. I look forward to see more of the performance of the Frostbite engine.

Good Lord the lighting looks awesome. 

That was pretty awesome to me.  Being a modeler there was a lot of things I really liked and noticed in the video, I hope they show more soon.

" Good Lord the lighting looks awesome.  "

" I think this looks amazing and almost instantly I lose more faith in the player base when reading the comments under the video. God forbid they'd release a tech video that shows anything but explosions and destruction.  Know what I see when I watch this video? A display of how the DX11 stuff will look like and, with the real time lighting effects, I almost get hopes for real time day cycle that affect where the sun will shine during the day. Imagine that? Snipers getting a hard time in the second half of the match because suddenly the sun has moved over to their angle of fire and shadows have moved for people to hide in. Amazing stuff. I look forward to see more of the performance of the Frostbite engine. "

Superold video from some gamedeveloper conference last summer.
 
That said. I really dig the lighting capabilities. Can't wait to see the proper reveal trailer and read hands-on previews from GDC.
 
The beta must be around the corner too. Sometime this summer I guess. Probably around E3?

" @PhatSeeJay said:

" I think this looks amazing and almost instantly I lose more faith in the player base when reading the comments under the video. God forbid they'd release a tech video that shows anything but explosions and destruction.  Know what I see when I watch this video? A display of how the DX11 stuff will look like and, with the real time lighting effects, I almost get hopes for real time day cycle that affect where the sun will shine during the day. Imagine that? Snipers getting a hard time in the second half of the match because suddenly the sun has moved over to their angle of fire and shadows have moved for people to hide in. Amazing stuff. I look forward to see more of the performance of the Frostbite engine. "

I don't know, I felt like that was a pretty weak display, real time lighting is by no means something new, also only a very small area rendered, all in all it looks neat, but so did frostbite 1/1.5 so....   I doubt there will be day/night cycles in game, that's the sort of thing devs will ALWAYS do when showing an engine, seriously look for past engine tech footage and I guarantee that at least in 80% of em there will be a part were they'll do a day/night cycle to show off the lighting.  What I really want to see is how much improved is the environmental destruction system. "

" I think this looks amazing and almost instantly I lose more faith in the player base when reading the comments under the video. God forbid they'd release a tech video that shows anything but explosions and destruction.  Know what I see when I watch this video? A display of how the DX11 stuff will look like and, with the real time lighting effects, I almost get hopes for real time day cycle that affect where the sun will shine during the day. Imagine that? Snipers getting a hard time in the second half of the match because suddenly the sun has moved over to their angle of fire and shadows have moved for people to hide in. Amazing stuff. I look forward to see more of the performance of the Frostbite engine. "

" In class on iPod touch right now- I'll watch when I get home. "

" @PhatSeeJay said:

" I think this looks amazing and almost instantly I lose more faith in the player base when reading the comments under the video. God forbid they'd release a tech video that shows anything but explosions and destruction.  Know what I see when I watch this video? A display of how the DX11 stuff will look like and, with the real time lighting effects, I almost get hopes for real time day cycle that affect where the sun will shine during the day. Imagine that? Snipers getting a hard time in the second half of the match because suddenly the sun has moved over to their angle of fire and shadows have moved for people to hide in. Amazing stuff. I look forward to see more of the performance of the Frostbite engine. "

On consoles, where players can't force 'disable bloom', lighting already is gameplay relevant. On maps like Laguna Presa Rush maptier 2, defenders get blinded by the sun. Of course, such a thing can't stand on PC, where people meddle with their .ini-files to get the drop on the competition. Instead of embracing gameplay relevant lighting, they say 'lighting sucks, it meddles with my visibility'. Thus, I'd rather not play shooters on PC. Guess I must play BF3 on PC though. Got a DX11 rig for it and the differences will be substancial enough (3x more players) for me to do it so. Nontheless, one can't have nice things with ignorant folks given the opportunity of meddling with a game on an open system. "

That was boring as hell.

" @Seppli said:

" @PhatSeeJay said:

" I think this looks amazing and almost instantly I lose more faith in the player base when reading the comments under the video. God forbid they'd release a tech video that shows anything but explosions and destruction.  Know what I see when I watch this video? A display of how the DX11 stuff will look like and, with the real time lighting effects, I almost get hopes for real time day cycle that affect where the sun will shine during the day. Imagine that? Snipers getting a hard time in the second half of the match because suddenly the sun has moved over to their angle of fire and shadows have moved for people to hide in. Amazing stuff. I look forward to see more of the performance of the Frostbite engine. "

On consoles, where players can't force 'disable bloom', lighting already is gameplay relevant. On maps like Laguna Presa Rush maptier 2, defenders get blinded by the sun. Of course, such a thing can't stand on PC, where people meddle with their .ini-files to get the drop on the competition. Instead of embracing gameplay relevant lighting, they say 'lighting sucks, it meddles with my visibility'. Thus, I'd rather not play shooters on PC. Guess I must play BF3 on PC though. Got a DX11 rig for it and the differences will be substancial enough (3x more players) for me to do it so. Nontheless, one can't have nice things with ignorant folks given the opportunity of meddling with a game on an open system. "

True. PC players can't have nice things because they can just tinker with files to have it go away and improve their play, making it an unfair advantage to the ones who's not able to do that, or like to keep those settings. It's a shame in my book because having a 100% clear view becomes a hassle for ground infantry to stay alive now that Bad Company 2 could sport pixel inch precision with shots being easier to place. I would personally welcome wind conditions that a sniper has to take into consideration when placing a shot or more ways to blind them. That's of course wishful thinking. "

" @TooWalrus said:

" In class on iPod touch right now- I'll watch when I get home. "

Thanks for letting us know. "

Okay, so this might be a little bit beyond DX9's capabilities. But you're not really seeing it here in these videos other than the shadow rendering.

" @floodiastus:  BC2 uses Frostbite 1.5 "

...when will we get a PC game comparable to Crysis?  It's been 4 years and we have yet to have a game that can even go toe-to-toe.   
 
This new engine just looks like an upgrade from BC2.

" @PhatSeeJay said:

" I think this looks amazing and almost instantly I lose more faith in the player base when reading the comments under the video. God forbid they'd release a tech video that shows anything but explosions and destruction.  Know what I see when I watch this video? A display of how the DX11 stuff will look like and, with the real time lighting effects, I almost get hopes for real time day cycle that affect where the sun will shine during the day. Imagine that? Snipers getting a hard time in the second half of the match because suddenly the sun has moved over to their angle of fire and shadows have moved for people to hide in. Amazing stuff. I look forward to see more of the performance of the Frostbite engine. "

On consoles, where players can't force 'disable bloom', lighting already is gameplay relevant. On maps like Laguna Presa Rush maptier 2, defenders get blinded by the sun. Of course, such a thing can't stand on PC, where people meddle with their .ini-files to get the drop on the competition. Instead of embracing gameplay relevant lighting, they say 'lighting sucks, it meddles with my visibility'. Thus, I'd rather not play shooters on PC. Guess I must play BF3 on PC though. Got a DX11 rig for it and the differences will be substancial enough (3x more players) for me to do it so. Nontheless, one can't have nice things with ignorant folks given the opportunity of meddling with a game on an open system. "

" @TooWalrus said:

" In class on iPod touch right now- I'll watch when I get home. "

Thanks for letting us know. "

" ...when will we get a PC game comparable to Crysis?  It's been 4 years and we have yet to have a game that can even go toe-to-toe.    This new engine just looks like an upgrade from BC2. "

" @Dedodido said:

" @floodiastus:  BC2 uses Frostbite 1.5 "

Oh alright, too bad they don't show of more destruction in 2.0 if anything that should be their focus, seeing as 1.5 looks graphicly superb already :) "

Are you guys serious? Maybe the people saying this isn't impressive just don't realize what's going on or how difficult it is to do. They aren't just changing the color of the lights, which would be pretty lame these days. Quake 2 did that. Here the light is reflecting off of colored surfaces and onto the rest of the room. That is super difficult to do in real time. Most games don't bother to try to do that in real time and just bake it into shadow maps or the textures themselves. 
 
As for the video being boring, I'm pretty sure that when it was shown off there would have been a person talking over it and explaining it. Gametrailers got the video, but probably couldn't record the presentation.

 Fantastic realtime lighting/bloom/color bleeding effects. Rest assured, this is above and beyond many other engines.  

4:20 because, like, because Joint Ops, bro.  Joint Ops like Battlefield, bro... you know?

im not sure what to think

looks nice and vibrant

" @floodiastus said:

" @Dedodido said:

" @floodiastus:  BC2 uses Frostbite 1.5 "

Oh alright, too bad they don't show of more destruction in 2.0 if anything that should be their focus, seeing as 1.5 looks graphicly superb already :) "

You mean Destruction 3.0? :p "

" @KaosAngel said:

" ...when will we get a PC game comparable to Crysis?  It's been 4 years and we have yet to have a game that can even go toe-to-toe.    This new engine just looks like an upgrade from BC2. "

Crysis is fairly dated by today's standards, Metro 2033 stomps all over vanilla Crysis and Arma II is up there as well. Modded Crysis is another story, but that's probably an unfair comparison.  "

" @Infininja said:

" @floodiastus said:

" @Dedodido said:

" @floodiastus:  BC2 uses Frostbite 1.5 "

Oh alright, too bad they don't show of more destruction in 2.0 if anything that should be their focus, seeing as 1.5 looks graphicly superb already :) "

You mean Destruction 3.0? :p "

I didnt mean destruction 3.0, I meant destruction "IN" 2.0 (as in frostbyte 2.0).. but im sure youre just trolling the naive floodiastus ;)  "

Can someone explain to me how this video of a lot of empty, untextured city scenes was impressive?

The engine does remind me of CryEngine 2 when it was being demoed for the original Crysis. But unfortunately tech demos only go so far as in the end the tech has to rely on the hardware.

@amir90

" @Geno:  You mentioned one game and call crysis dated? sorry, fail.    edit: also, It is a bit unfair to compare them, Metro 2033 is 90% of the time corridor, crysis is often open battleground, and wherever it is better or not is all for discussion, metro is a dark game.  Anyways, looks like a good tech demo, however I fear that much of those effects are dx11, which my card doesn't support :( "