First Gameplay Video

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#51 Posted by DystopiaX (5300 posts) -
@AssInAss
Not excited for the design of the campaign, if it's that heavily scripted. It's 2014, where's the near futuristicness (GRAW set in 2013)?!  No squad commands?! :(
 
Heavily scripted = zero replayability. You can still have a dynamic game out of a scripted shooter, look at HALO with its AI making each encounter unpredictable.  
 
Oh well, a great technical showcase either way.
They obviously picked scripted moments cause they're the most "exciting" note how it's not one long sequence, it's a bunch of 15 second cuts strung together.
#52 Posted by FrankCanada97 (4039 posts) -
@Meltac said:
" That looks incredible! Just bought Medal of Honor, so I could get into the beta, because of this video, and I'm really considering buying Bad Company 2 to see what I missed on.  "
Do it, the online community is still strong.
#53 Posted by SeriouslyNow (8534 posts) -

It's a PC Demo!  Like, for real.  A real, honest to goodness, Personal-fucking-Computer demo, complete with WASD on screen prompts!!
 
There is a god.

#54 Edited by Donos (1194 posts) -

I'm glad to see this thing in gameplay form, but something about the way the gun is held looks weird. It fels like it's floating a bit too high and to the center. 
 
Edit: Just picked up my paintball gun, and I guess the perspective is correct. 
 
Edit Edit: On the other hand, the gun really shouldn't be in ful view for sprinting.
#55 Posted by pornstorestiffi (4911 posts) -
@onarum said:
" Am I the only one that's a little bothered by this?   I mean come on look at that, it's Modern Warfare people  -90% scripted events. CHECK -Overly dramatized BS. CHECK -Completely Linear. CHECK -People opening doors for you. CHECK  It's modern warfare period, god couldn't they get at least a little creative with this? they already have bad company to be a COD wanna be why do this to real BF?  Wouldn't it be 100 billion times better if they had made it open ended operation Flashpoint style? with huge cities where you have you central base and receive missions that happen seamlessly, your base gets attacked from time to time, you can set new bases on conquered enemy bases, I mean the possibilities are limitless and what do they do? EFFIN COD....... "
Who cares if the single player part looks like COD. Its the multi player part that i care about. And i would guess the Battlefield 2 fan base feels the same.
#56 Posted by Gizmo (5389 posts) -

'Shooting Iraqi Dudes In The Face With Better Graphics : The Game' 
 
I don't see any innovation here.

#57 Posted by FrankCanada97 (4039 posts) -
@Gizmo said:
" 'Shooting Iraqi Dudes In The Face With Better Graphics : The Game'  I don't see any innovation here. "
You haven't seen enough.
#58 Edited by Gizmo (5389 posts) -
@FrankCanada97 said:

" @Gizmo said:

" 'Shooting Iraqi Dudes In The Face With Better Graphics : The Game'  I don't see any innovation here. "
You haven't seen enough. "
They are making a modern warfare FPS game. I think I know exactly what to expect.
#59 Posted by PhatSeeJay (3322 posts) -
@pornstorestiffi said:
" @onarum said:
" Am I the only one that's a little bothered by this?   I mean come on look at that, it's Modern Warfare people  -90% scripted events. CHECK -Overly dramatized BS. CHECK -Completely Linear. CHECK -People opening doors for you. CHECK  It's modern warfare period, god couldn't they get at least a little creative with this? they already have bad company to be a COD wanna be why do this to real BF?  Wouldn't it be 100 billion times better if they had made it open ended operation Flashpoint style? with huge cities where you have you central base and receive missions that happen seamlessly, your base gets attacked from time to time, you can set new bases on conquered enemy bases, I mean the possibilities are limitless and what do they do? EFFIN COD....... "
Who cares if the single player part looks like COD. Its the multi player part that i care about. And i would guess the Battlefield 2 fan base feels the same. "
This. I'll also go ahead and add something to your checklist.
 
-10 minute introductory gameplay. CHECK
 
Doesn't say anything of what we'll get to see once stuff ramps up. I think it's safe to say we'll see large scale battles take place, while being scripted sure.
Pretty sure they'll leave the seamless "open world" stuff to the Multiplayer because nothing creates the unpredictable as much as 64 players at once.
#60 Edited by FrankCanada97 (4039 posts) -
@Gizmo said:

" @FrankCanada97 said:

" @Gizmo said:

" 'Shooting Iraqi Dudes In The Face With Better Graphics : The Game'  I don't see any innovation here. "
You haven't seen enough. "
They are making a modern warfare FPS game. I think I know exactly what to expect. "
You have yet to see any online gameplay, any details on map sizes, any information on how vehicles handle, or how kits are characterized. I just think it's unreasonable too make generalizations based on setting and genre.
#61 Posted by Jeffsekai (7027 posts) -

Looks awesome.

#62 Posted by Ocean_H (290 posts) -
@onarum said:

" Am I the only one that's a little bothered by this?   I mean come on look at that, it's Modern Warfare people  -90% scripted events. CHECK -Overly dramatized BS. CHECK -Completely Linear. CHECK -People opening doors for you. CHECK  It's modern warfare period, god couldn't they get at least a little creative with this? they already have bad company to be a COD wanna be why do this to real BF?  Wouldn't it be 100 billion times better if they had made it open ended operation Flashpoint style? with huge cities where you have you central base and receive missions that happen seamlessly, your base gets attacked from time to time, you can set new bases on conquered enemy bases, I mean the possibilities are limitless and what do they do? EFFIN COD....... "

Scripted events arent a bad thing, they are a good way to show a sequence of events in a way that makes sense for the story and you as a possible protagonist.

So you dont get to choose if you go to Point A by choosing path B or C... the end result is the same because its still a game and the developpers are trying to tell you a story.
 
And you play as a squad leader: NCOs do not open doors.
 
#63 Posted by Donos (1194 posts) -

Erm, why is it being assumed that the entire game is a scripted corridor? I have seen nothing to suggest that it will be.
#64 Edited by AhmadMetallic (18955 posts) -
@Gizmo said:

" @FrankCanada97 said:

" @Gizmo said:

" 'Shooting Iraqi Dudes In The Face With Better Graphics : The Game'  I don't see any innovation here. "
You haven't seen enough. "
They are making a modern warfare FPS game. I think I know exactly what to expect. "
well SSFIV is all about two people on the screen beating each other up til one of them falls, but you dont see me wasting comment space on the Street Fighter forums with my spamming and telling them "yeah yeah, two dudes tapping buttons to hit each other" 
 
so if you dont like first person shooters, thats fine, but shut the fuck up and get the fuck out (: 
  

 
@SeriouslyNow said:

" It's a PC Demo!  Like, for real.  A real, honest to goodness, Personal-fucking-Computer demo, complete with WASD on screen prompts!!  There is a god. "

hahaha TAP THAT S !!! 
god that feels good to say.  
 
  

@PhatSeeJay said:

" @pornstorestiffi said:

" @onarum said:
" Am I the only one that's a little bothered by this?   I mean come on look at that, it's Modern Warfare people  -90% scripted events. CHECK -Overly dramatized BS. CHECK -Completely Linear. CHECK -People opening doors for you. CHECK  It's modern warfare period, god couldn't they get at least a little creative with this? they already have bad company to be a COD wanna be why do this to real BF?  Wouldn't it be 100 billion times better if they had made it open ended operation Flashpoint style? with huge cities where you have you central base and receive missions that happen seamlessly, your base gets attacked from time to time, you can set new bases on conquered enemy bases, I mean the possibilities are limitless and what do they do? EFFIN COD....... "
Who cares if the single player part looks like COD. Its the multi player part that i care about. And i would guess the Battlefield 2 fan base feels the same. "
This. I'll also go ahead and add something to your checklist.  -10 minute introductory gameplay. CHECK  Doesn't say anything of what we'll get to see once stuff ramps up. I think it's safe to say we'll see large scale battles take place, while being scripted sure. Pretty sure they'll leave the seamless "open world" stuff to the Multiplayer because nothing creates the unpredictable as much as 64 players at once. "
allow me to add something else : 
 
-dog barking and jumping against the fence - CHECK 
 
See, we do not care about Single Player. DICE is my second all time favorite developer, and even i admit that their SP kinda stinks.. it's just there to show you the graphics and sound design in exciting sequences and events, and to grab the attention of Captain Price lovers, thus making more sales so those DUDES and CHAVS can shoot AI and throw grenades and booom yeeeahhh !...  
 
otherwise, DICE = Multiplayer lords, and thats what we're awaiting to see. patiently.
#65 Posted by Donos (1194 posts) -
@Ahmad_Metallic: Kindly don't make generalizations about what other people do or don't care about. You are not representative of everybody.
#66 Edited by Gizmo (5389 posts) -

Wow,   Ahmad_Metallic is a complete jerk who doesn't like people doubting his precious Battlefield series. That's fucking pathetic dude. 
 
Fine, just keep spamming Giantbomb with Battlefield 3 threads and keep telling yourself it's going to be the best game ever.

#67 Edited by Donos (1194 posts) -
@Gizmo:  U mad bro?
#68 Posted by Applederp (116 posts) -

I really hope DICE puts out mod tools for this game, just so I can see Project Reality and Forgotten Hope in that beautiful wonder of an engine.

#69 Posted by NoRemnants (378 posts) -
@onarum said:
" Am I the only one that's a little bothered by this?   I mean come on look at that, it's Modern Warfare people  -90% scripted events. CHECK -Overly dramatized BS. CHECK -Completely Linear. CHECK -People opening doors for you. CHECK  It's modern warfare period, god couldn't they get at least a little creative with this? they already have bad company to be a COD wanna be why do this to real BF?  Wouldn't it be 100 billion times better if they had made it open ended operation Flashpoint style? with huge cities where you have you central base and receive missions that happen seamlessly, your base gets attacked from time to time, you can set new bases on conquered enemy bases, I mean the possibilities are limitless and what do they do? EFFIN COD....... "
Why exactly are people against scripted events in games? I guarantee more than 90% of games have a scripted singleplayer campaign. God of War for example. I don't see anyone bitching that it's scripted. Uncharted, no bitching there either.  Why is it such a sin to tell a good story in a FPS game with tightly scripted events? Any other way it just turns into a bot match And I'd much rather play a scripted campaign than fight bots for 5 hours.
 
Also what about this is overly dramatized? A soldier gets shot by a sniper, which happens. Do you really think real soldiers would just let their buddy lay there in the open? A RPG hits near the player which causes him to be stunned. What is overly dramatic about that?
 
As for being completely Linear. Have you played the game? Because to me it looks like these are just a series of scripted events spliced together into a trailer. Which is not indicative of the actual game.
 
Why do you care if someone opens a door for you? It's how real combat works. 
 
No it would not be 100 billion times better if they turned it into a shitty military sim. Games are supposed to be fun.
#70 Posted by AhmadMetallic (18955 posts) -
@Havox said:

" @onarum said:

" Am I the only one that's a little bothered by this?   I mean come on look at that, it's Modern Warfare people  -90% scripted events. CHECK -Overly dramatized BS. CHECK -Completely Linear. CHECK -People opening doors for you. CHECK  It's modern warfare period, god couldn't they get at least a little creative with this? they already have bad company to be a COD wanna be why do this to real BF?  Wouldn't it be 100 billion times better if they had made it open ended operation Flashpoint style? with huge cities where you have you central base and receive missions that happen seamlessly, your base gets attacked from time to time, you can set new bases on conquered enemy bases, I mean the possibilities are limitless and what do they do? EFFIN COD....... "
Why exactly are people against scripted events in games? I guarantee more than 90% of games have a scripted singleplayer campaign. God of War for example. I don't see anyone bitching that it's scripted. Uncharted, no bitching there either.  Why is it such a sin to tell a good story in a FPS game with tightly scripted events? Any other way it just turns into a bot match And I'd much rather play a scripted campaign than fight bots for 5 hours. Also what about this is overly dramatized? A soldier gets shot by a sniper, which happens. Do you really think real soldiers would just let their buddy lay there in the open? A RPG hits near the player which causes him to be stunned. What is overly dramatic about that?  As for being completely Linear. Have you played the game? Because to me it looks like these are just a series of scripted events spliced together into a trailer. Which is not indicative of the actual game.  Why do you care if someone opens a door for you? It's how real combat works.   No it would not be 100 billion times better if they turned it into a shitty military sim. Games are supposed to be fun. "
                                                                                                                     
#71 Posted by RandomInternetUser (6789 posts) -

I think I'm going to need a stockpile of pants for every time I see something new BF3 related.

#72 Posted by amir90 (2154 posts) -

A lot looked, great, but the running animation?
Idk, how do soldiers run in real life?

#73 Posted by RandomInternetUser (6789 posts) -
@amir90 said:
" A lot looked, great, but the running animation? Idk, how do soldiers run in real life? "
Are you talking about the player?  'Cause yeah, the gun moves strangely during the run animation.  Doesn't really matter to me though because other than that it looked amazing.
#74 Posted by amir90 (2154 posts) -
@xobballox said:
" @amir90 said:
" A lot looked, great, but the running animation? Idk, how do soldiers run in real life? "
Are you talking about the player?  'Cause yeah, the gun moves strangely during the run animation.  Doesn't really matter to me though because other than that it looked amazing. "
Yupp, as I mentioned everything else looks great :P
#75 Posted by SSully (4159 posts) -
@Ahmad_Metallic:  Is it wrong for me to be more excited about the sound design in this game then the new engine? Because the stuff they are doing sounds fantastic!
#76 Posted by Donos (1194 posts) -

I just noticed: GLORIOUS helicopter edit every time someone says fuck.

#77 Edited by Seppli (10251 posts) -
@rebgav said:

" @Bouke said:

"  i hope it looks this good on consoles! "

It won't. Unless Microsoft are planning on releasing a new Xbox this year with spec on par with a high-end Alienware face-raper. "
A modern mid-of-the-line DX11 gaming rig will give you BF3 in all its glory. Maybe not with full 16x AA, but certainly very close to what you see in this trailer. That's the thing. Our brains are all wired DX9-style. BF3 is tooled for DX11 and has dropped DX9 support completely. DX11 solutions like Tesselation are being used heavily, which enable 'unbelieveable' results at a fraction of the perceived ressources cost (since we still think in terms of DX9).
 
How much of that will be lost on consoles? Probably everything. Nontheless, DX11 is just better at trickery than DX9. Having a long console-cycle make devs better at trickery on that specific hardware too. Guess it will look and feel better than BF:BC 2 and will hopefully be a close approximation to the 'next generation engine for current generation hardware' slogan DICE is using.
#78 Posted by JoelTGM (5596 posts) -

Looks very good.  I just hope it turns out better than Medal of Honor.

#79 Posted by AhmadMetallic (18955 posts) -
@Seppli said:
" @rebgav said:

" @Bouke said:

"  i hope it looks this good on consoles! "

It won't. Unless Microsoft are planning on releasing a new Xbox this year with spec on par with a high-end Alienware face-raper. "
A modern mid-of-the-line DX11 gaming rig will give you BF3 in all its glory. "
How do you know that.. ?
#80 Posted by Seppli (10251 posts) -
@Ahmad_Metallic said:
" @Seppli said:
" @rebgav said:

" @Bouke said:

"  i hope it looks this good on consoles! "

It won't. Unless Microsoft are planning on releasing a new Xbox this year with spec on par with a high-end Alienware face-raper. "
A modern mid-of-the-line DX11 gaming rig will give you BF3 in all its glory. "
How do you know that.. ? "
Because BF3 is the first game to drop DX9 entirely. DX11 support isn't tacked onto a DX9 game for garnish. It's a DX11 game, thus it profits from techniques such as Tesselation much more than we're used to. First demos have been shown on HD5870s, which deliver about the performance of a good current mid-range DX11 card. It's all conjecture of course.
 
The gist of it is, Battlefield 3 is a DX11 game at its core and the first of its kind. We just don't know yet how much of a gamechanger that will be.
#81 Posted by Solemn (278 posts) -
@DystopiaX said:
" @Jason_Bourne: Personally don't understand why there's a cod vs BF debate. Seems weird that people feel like they have to play one game exclusively over the other. I'm personally more interested in BF3 than new CoD, but that's just a personal preference...I don't think that people should argue about which one is "better" when they seem to be going for 2 different things. "
This will put an end to my friend constantly telling me COD sucks whenever I play Blops.

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