Not excited for the design of the campaign, if it's that heavily scripted. It's 2014, where's the near futuristicness (GRAW set in 2013)?! No squad commands?! :(They obviously picked scripted moments cause they're the most "exciting" note how it's not one long sequence, it's a bunch of 15 second cuts strung together.
Heavily scripted = zero replayability. You can still have a dynamic game out of a scripted shooter, look at HALO with its AI making each encounter unpredictable.
Oh well, a great technical showcase either way.
Battlefield 3
Game » consists of 15 releases. Released Oct 25, 2011
Battlefield 3 is DICE's third numerical installment in the Battlefield franchise. It features a single player and co-operative campaign, as well as an extensive multiplayer component.
First Gameplay Video
" That looks incredible! Just bought Medal of Honor, so I could get into the beta, because of this video, and I'm really considering buying Bad Company 2 to see what I missed on. "Do it, the online community is still strong.
It's a PC Demo! Like, for real. A real, honest to goodness, Personal-fucking-Computer demo, complete with WASD on screen prompts!!
There is a god.
I'm glad to see this thing in gameplay form, but something about the way the gun is held looks weird. It fels like it's floating a bit too high and to the center.
Edit: Just picked up my paintball gun, and I guess the perspective is correct.
Edit Edit: On the other hand, the gun really shouldn't be in ful view for sprinting.
" Am I the only one that's a little bothered by this? I mean come on look at that, it's Modern Warfare people -90% scripted events. CHECK -Overly dramatized BS. CHECK -Completely Linear. CHECK -People opening doors for you. CHECK It's modern warfare period, god couldn't they get at least a little creative with this? they already have bad company to be a COD wanna be why do this to real BF? Wouldn't it be 100 billion times better if they had made it open ended operation Flashpoint style? with huge cities where you have you central base and receive missions that happen seamlessly, your base gets attacked from time to time, you can set new bases on conquered enemy bases, I mean the possibilities are limitless and what do they do? EFFIN COD....... "Who cares if the single player part looks like COD. Its the multi player part that i care about. And i would guess the Battlefield 2 fan base feels the same.
" 'Shooting Iraqi Dudes In The Face With Better Graphics : The Game' I don't see any innovation here. "You haven't seen enough.
" @onarum said:This. I'll also go ahead and add something to your checklist." Am I the only one that's a little bothered by this? I mean come on look at that, it's Modern Warfare people -90% scripted events. CHECK -Overly dramatized BS. CHECK -Completely Linear. CHECK -People opening doors for you. CHECK It's modern warfare period, god couldn't they get at least a little creative with this? they already have bad company to be a COD wanna be why do this to real BF? Wouldn't it be 100 billion times better if they had made it open ended operation Flashpoint style? with huge cities where you have you central base and receive missions that happen seamlessly, your base gets attacked from time to time, you can set new bases on conquered enemy bases, I mean the possibilities are limitless and what do they do? EFFIN COD....... "Who cares if the single player part looks like COD. Its the multi player part that i care about. And i would guess the Battlefield 2 fan base feels the same. "
-10 minute introductory gameplay. CHECK
Doesn't say anything of what we'll get to see once stuff ramps up. I think it's safe to say we'll see large scale battles take place, while being scripted sure.
Pretty sure they'll leave the seamless "open world" stuff to the Multiplayer because nothing creates the unpredictable as much as 64 players at once.
You have yet to see any online gameplay, any details on map sizes, any information on how vehicles handle, or how kits are characterized. I just think it's unreasonable too make generalizations based on setting and genre." @FrankCanada97 said:
They are making a modern warfare FPS game. I think I know exactly what to expect. "" @Gizmo said:
" 'Shooting Iraqi Dudes In The Face With Better Graphics : The Game' I don't see any innovation here. "You haven't seen enough. "
Scripted events arent a bad thing, they are a good way to show a sequence of events in a way that makes sense for the story and you as a possible protagonist." Am I the only one that's a little bothered by this? I mean come on look at that, it's Modern Warfare people -90% scripted events. CHECK -Overly dramatized BS. CHECK -Completely Linear. CHECK -People opening doors for you. CHECK It's modern warfare period, god couldn't they get at least a little creative with this? they already have bad company to be a COD wanna be why do this to real BF? Wouldn't it be 100 billion times better if they had made it open ended operation Flashpoint style? with huge cities where you have you central base and receive missions that happen seamlessly, your base gets attacked from time to time, you can set new bases on conquered enemy bases, I mean the possibilities are limitless and what do they do? EFFIN COD....... "
So you dont get to choose if you go to Point A by choosing path B or C... the end result is the same because its still a game and the developpers are trying to tell you a story.
And you play as a squad leader: NCOs do not open doors.
well SSFIV is all about two people on the screen beating each other up til one of them falls, but you dont see me wasting comment space on the Street Fighter forums with my spamming and telling them "yeah yeah, two dudes tapping buttons to hit each other"" @FrankCanada97 said:
They are making a modern warfare FPS game. I think I know exactly what to expect. "" @Gizmo said:
" 'Shooting Iraqi Dudes In The Face With Better Graphics : The Game' I don't see any innovation here. "You haven't seen enough. "
so if you dont like first person shooters, thats fine, but shut the fuck up and get the fuck out (:
@SeriouslyNow said:
hahaha TAP THAT S !!!" It's a PC Demo! Like, for real. A real, honest to goodness, Personal-fucking-Computer demo, complete with WASD on screen prompts!! There is a god. "
god that feels good to say.
@PhatSeeJay said:
allow me to add something else :" @pornstorestiffi said:
" @onarum said:This. I'll also go ahead and add something to your checklist. -10 minute introductory gameplay. CHECK Doesn't say anything of what we'll get to see once stuff ramps up. I think it's safe to say we'll see large scale battles take place, while being scripted sure. Pretty sure they'll leave the seamless "open world" stuff to the Multiplayer because nothing creates the unpredictable as much as 64 players at once. "" Am I the only one that's a little bothered by this? I mean come on look at that, it's Modern Warfare people -90% scripted events. CHECK -Overly dramatized BS. CHECK -Completely Linear. CHECK -People opening doors for you. CHECK It's modern warfare period, god couldn't they get at least a little creative with this? they already have bad company to be a COD wanna be why do this to real BF? Wouldn't it be 100 billion times better if they had made it open ended operation Flashpoint style? with huge cities where you have you central base and receive missions that happen seamlessly, your base gets attacked from time to time, you can set new bases on conquered enemy bases, I mean the possibilities are limitless and what do they do? EFFIN COD....... "Who cares if the single player part looks like COD. Its the multi player part that i care about. And i would guess the Battlefield 2 fan base feels the same. "
-dog barking and jumping against the fence - CHECK
See, we do not care about Single Player. DICE is my second all time favorite developer, and even i admit that their SP kinda stinks.. it's just there to show you the graphics and sound design in exciting sequences and events, and to grab the attention of Captain Price lovers, thus making more sales so those DUDES and CHAVS can shoot AI and throw grenades and booom yeeeahhh !...
otherwise, DICE = Multiplayer lords, and thats what we're awaiting to see. patiently.
Wow, Ahmad_Metallic is a complete jerk who doesn't like people doubting his precious Battlefield series. That's fucking pathetic dude.
Fine, just keep spamming Giantbomb with Battlefield 3 threads and keep telling yourself it's going to be the best game ever.
" Am I the only one that's a little bothered by this? I mean come on look at that, it's Modern Warfare people -90% scripted events. CHECK -Overly dramatized BS. CHECK -Completely Linear. CHECK -People opening doors for you. CHECK It's modern warfare period, god couldn't they get at least a little creative with this? they already have bad company to be a COD wanna be why do this to real BF? Wouldn't it be 100 billion times better if they had made it open ended operation Flashpoint style? with huge cities where you have you central base and receive missions that happen seamlessly, your base gets attacked from time to time, you can set new bases on conquered enemy bases, I mean the possibilities are limitless and what do they do? EFFIN COD....... "Why exactly are people against scripted events in games? I guarantee more than 90% of games have a scripted singleplayer campaign. God of War for example. I don't see anyone bitching that it's scripted. Uncharted, no bitching there either. Why is it such a sin to tell a good story in a FPS game with tightly scripted events? Any other way it just turns into a bot match And I'd much rather play a scripted campaign than fight bots for 5 hours.
Also what about this is overly dramatized? A soldier gets shot by a sniper, which happens. Do you really think real soldiers would just let their buddy lay there in the open? A RPG hits near the player which causes him to be stunned. What is overly dramatic about that?
As for being completely Linear. Have you played the game? Because to me it looks like these are just a series of scripted events spliced together into a trailer. Which is not indicative of the actual game.
Why do you care if someone opens a door for you? It's how real combat works.
No it would not be 100 billion times better if they turned it into a shitty military sim. Games are supposed to be fun.
" @onarum said:
" Am I the only one that's a little bothered by this? I mean come on look at that, it's Modern Warfare people -90% scripted events. CHECK -Overly dramatized BS. CHECK -Completely Linear. CHECK -People opening doors for you. CHECK It's modern warfare period, god couldn't they get at least a little creative with this? they already have bad company to be a COD wanna be why do this to real BF? Wouldn't it be 100 billion times better if they had made it open ended operation Flashpoint style? with huge cities where you have you central base and receive missions that happen seamlessly, your base gets attacked from time to time, you can set new bases on conquered enemy bases, I mean the possibilities are limitless and what do they do? EFFIN COD....... "Why exactly are people against scripted events in games? I guarantee more than 90% of games have a scripted singleplayer campaign. God of War for example. I don't see anyone bitching that it's scripted. Uncharted, no bitching there either. Why is it such a sin to tell a good story in a FPS game with tightly scripted events? Any other way it just turns into a bot match And I'd much rather play a scripted campaign than fight bots for 5 hours. Also what about this is overly dramatized? A soldier gets shot by a sniper, which happens. Do you really think real soldiers would just let their buddy lay there in the open? A RPG hits near the player which causes him to be stunned. What is overly dramatic about that? As for being completely Linear. Have you played the game? Because to me it looks like these are just a series of scripted events spliced together into a trailer. Which is not indicative of the actual game. Why do you care if someone opens a door for you? It's how real combat works. No it would not be 100 billion times better if they turned it into a shitty military sim. Games are supposed to be fun. "
" A lot looked, great, but the running animation? Idk, how do soldiers run in real life? "Are you talking about the player? 'Cause yeah, the gun moves strangely during the run animation. Doesn't really matter to me though because other than that it looked amazing.
" @amir90 said:Yupp, as I mentioned everything else looks great :P" A lot looked, great, but the running animation? Idk, how do soldiers run in real life? "Are you talking about the player? 'Cause yeah, the gun moves strangely during the run animation. Doesn't really matter to me though because other than that it looked amazing. "
A modern mid-of-the-line DX11 gaming rig will give you BF3 in all its glory. Maybe not with full 16x AA, but certainly very close to what you see in this trailer. That's the thing. Our brains are all wired DX9-style. BF3 is tooled for DX11 and has dropped DX9 support completely. DX11 solutions like Tesselation are being used heavily, which enable 'unbelieveable' results at a fraction of the perceived ressources cost (since we still think in terms of DX9)." @Bouke said:
It won't. Unless Microsoft are planning on releasing a new Xbox this year with spec on par with a high-end Alienware face-raper. "" i hope it looks this good on consoles! "
How much of that will be lost on consoles? Probably everything. Nontheless, DX11 is just better at trickery than DX9. Having a long console-cycle make devs better at trickery on that specific hardware too. Guess it will look and feel better than BF:BC 2 and will hopefully be a close approximation to the 'next generation engine for current generation hardware' slogan DICE is using.
" @rebgav said:How do you know that.. ?A modern mid-of-the-line DX11 gaming rig will give you BF3 in all its glory. "" @Bouke said:
It won't. Unless Microsoft are planning on releasing a new Xbox this year with spec on par with a high-end Alienware face-raper. "" i hope it looks this good on consoles! "
" @Seppli said:Because BF3 is the first game to drop DX9 entirely. DX11 support isn't tacked onto a DX9 game for garnish. It's a DX11 game, thus it profits from techniques such as Tesselation much more than we're used to. First demos have been shown on HD5870s, which deliver about the performance of a good current mid-range DX11 card. It's all conjecture of course." @rebgav said:How do you know that.. ? "A modern mid-of-the-line DX11 gaming rig will give you BF3 in all its glory. "" @Bouke said:
It won't. Unless Microsoft are planning on releasing a new Xbox this year with spec on par with a high-end Alienware face-raper. "" i hope it looks this good on consoles! "
The gist of it is, Battlefield 3 is a DX11 game at its core and the first of its kind. We just don't know yet how much of a gamechanger that will be.
" @Jason_Bourne: Personally don't understand why there's a cod vs BF debate. Seems weird that people feel like they have to play one game exclusively over the other. I'm personally more interested in BF3 than new CoD, but that's just a personal preference...I don't think that people should argue about which one is "better" when they seem to be going for 2 different things. "This will put an end to my friend constantly telling me COD sucks whenever I play Blops.
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