To all Giant Bomb members who own Battlefield 3 (Please read).

#1 Edited by AhmadMetallic (18954 posts) -

Hey everyone. This is a very important and essential message/thread that will help me as a community organizer and server owner shape the future of our Battlefield 3 activities.  
I really hope that you read and reply if you own the game on PC because this will help me immensely.
 
It's been four months since I've migrated the community from BC2 to BF3, hundreds of you enlisted and we rented our very own Giant Bomb 64-slot Battlefield 3 server. 
During these months we've reached 390 Giant Bomb members in the Steam group and the ID list on the main thread, occupy four Battlelog platoons, and to this day, four months after release, we still have good numbers of us playing together, tens of us enjoying the chats and the gameplay banter on our Mumble voice server, and we occasionally reach full capacity on the server. 

 Bombing Run goodness!
First of all, I'd like to say that while I'm very flattered that the server only gets full when I'm personally there to oversee it and invite people on my own, this is not a healthy Battlefield community we have here. 
You are not supposed to play only when the guy in charge is around. Let's say that a hundred of the ~400 BF3 owners of this community stopped playing the game/sold their copy/ have work or school / are playing other games, 
What about the remaining 300? Are you guys listening? If we drop 100 of us as "unavailable" we still have around three hundred of us who, based on our Platoons stats, my Battlelog friends feed and my Steam friends list, are still active players. 
So how come that just THIRTY out of the THREE hundred can't jump on and play? The server fills itself with randoms from there, all you need is thirty people to start.  
 
This is very curious to me. In my past Battlefield 2 clans which didn't have more than 100-200 members, it was very easy for us to jump on and play on our own servers, pushing the server halfway up the server browser and letting the randoms/regulars do the rest.  
Why is it not the case with this game? 
 
I'm friends with most of our BF3 players, always contacting you personally on Steam and Battlelog and helping you fix the various technical issues you may have, so I'm still on a personal level asking you guys, is something wrong? 
 
I think it's the myth that servers are "impossible to fill." Everyone feels like it's such an unreachable achievement to gather and fill the server. Then I start inviting people, next thing you know the server has 50-60 players for eight hours straight all through the night, and then the next day we're back to the belief that servers are "impossible to fill." 
 
People, we have a voice server that has 10-15 regulars on a daily basis, up to 30 on BF3/other game bombing runs. We have a mIRC chatroom that is dedicated to the PC Gaming Hub, all you need to do is jump on and you'll be met by many friendly giant bomb duders who just wanna have a good game.  
All you have to do is jump on with other duders. It all starts from there. We get the server full by starting 8v8 games, it always goes up.

My aim here is to make sure each and every one of you, who want to join our games and have a good time and a good chat, to be able to do so and for this to be a habit rather than a rarity that only happens when I invite people personally.  

Let's establish a healthy, dedicated and mature Battlefield community here, folks. 

  Our 100-slot Mumble voice server, it reaches up to 15 duders online every night/30 people on gamenights, join us!   
 
Our "GB PC Gaming Hub" mIRC chatroom, we always use it to chit chat and suggest BF3/other game sessions and end up teaming up and playing. Hell we've even played mad Half-Life 2 multiplayer/coop mods because of it. Join us!   
 
The two threads that contain everything you need to know about the BF3/PC gamer community of Giant Bomb members: 
  • BF3 thread with server info, voice server info and ID list - Stickied on the BF3 forums.
  • PC Hub thread with gamenight schedules for a variety of games and the info to our mIRC chatroom.
If you have any complaints, any ideas, suggestions, technical issues or anything else stopping you from joining in on the fun, post here or PM me and we should be able to help you with it.     
Looking forward to your replies and responses, guys.
#2 Posted by AhmadMetallic (18954 posts) -

I must also stress that the Battlelog/Origin/Platoon systems are way too simple compared to the sophisticated gaming communication Steam provides. The steam group is essential for being in the loop.

#3 Posted by insane_shadowblade85 (1497 posts) -

I check the server everyday and no one is on, even during the bombing runs. No one! *Shakes Ahmad* I can't shoot myself, can I? Can I?!

Hm...no, that wouldn't help bring my K/D up. Whenever I'm not busy I'll swing by and see if anyone's playing.

#4 Edited by AhmadMetallic (18954 posts) -
@insane_shadowblade85 said:

I check the server everyday and no one is on, even during the bombing runs. No one! *Shakes Ahmad* I can't shoot myself, can I? Can I?!

Hm...no, that wouldn't help bring my K/D up. Whenever I'm not busy I'll swing by and see if anyone's playing.

This is exactly what I'm talking about, dude. We have THREE HUNDRED available and active players who all think "I can't play because no one is on." Or "Unless Ahmad messages me and promises that others are coming." 
Dude, join the mumble server or the mIRC chatroom and see who wants to play, I get the entire server full just by doing that. Standing aside will never change anything. 
 
A shoutout to all the dedicated regulars who help me populate the server by going crazy in 8v8 or 10v10 matches til more people join! Akrid, Swoxx, Liber, Alex, Poppins, Gruvac, Bwat, Roughneck, VIGGO, Jam, Mosdl, JOURN3Y, Pie, SneakyBadger, swamplord, Unreal, GS_Dan, you're all awesome!
#5 Posted by insane_shadowblade85 (1497 posts) -

Okay, okay. Don't get mad, I'll check those things out when I get some time. *cowers*

#6 Posted by Tennmuerti (8172 posts) -
@AhmadMetallic said:
This is very curious to me. In my past Battlefield 2 clans which didn't have more than 100-200 members, it was very easy for us to jump on and play on our own servers, pushing the server halfway up the server browser and letting the randoms/regulars do the rest.  
Why is it not the case with this game? 
Your clan was formed mostly because of their mutual BF2 connection.
GB group. Well most of us are not dedicated BF3 players. Just dudes in GB who wanted to play it. Many of us play other games too, a lot of them. And are mostly there because of the GB connection not their BF3 connection.
It's a very simple reason.
#7 Posted by swamplord666 (1763 posts) -

As I said, during bombing runs, bump this kind of thread so people see!

Honestly giantbomb duders, come along :) it's always a ton of fun.

#8 Posted by Ravenlight (8040 posts) -

It's probably because everyone's playing the far superior Katawa Shoujo.

Either that or they're like me and haven't seen BF3 at a low enough price to bite.

#9 Edited by Matthew (1914 posts) -

It's really hard to play with one hand.

*I mean, everybody (those 200 people who have stopped playing.) is looking at porn. So it's hard to play with one hand.

#10 Posted by Grixxel (769 posts) -

I don't, but this is neat! Good luck with it.

#11 Posted by AhmadMetallic (18954 posts) -
@Tennmuerti said:
@AhmadMetallic said:
This is very curious to me. In my past Battlefield 2 clans which didn't have more than 100-200 members, it was very easy for us to jump on and play on our own servers, pushing the server halfway up the server browser and letting the randoms/regulars do the rest.  
Why is it not the case with this game? 
Your clan was formed mostly because of their mutual BF2 connection. GB group. Well most of us are not dedicated BF3 players. Just dudes in GB who wanted to play it. Many of us play other games too, a lot of them. And are mostly there because of the GB connection not their BF3 connection.It's a very simple reason.
I realize that. Hell I just bought Alan Wake and it's satisfied the Max Payne fan in me so much I won't be capturing flags for a week. But when you have almost 400 members, I'm sure that 40 of them at any given time would be up for a game.  
When I invite people personally, they're always up to it. It's just that they don't take initiative, which is what I'm addressing.
#12 Posted by AlexW00d (6389 posts) -

THIS is why you should all play.

#13 Edited by Akrid (1356 posts) -

These are the sort of things y'all are missing out on.

Edit: Goddamnit Alex, I told you I'd post it!

#14 Posted by Matthew (1914 posts) -

@AlexW00d: COME ON ALEX, GET YOUR SHIT TOGETHER. As we've learned throughout human history, communication is key in any relationship. I hope you don't have to learn this the hard way with Miss Hyland.

#15 Posted by big_jon (5774 posts) -

I am on Xbox.

#16 Edited by Canteu (2821 posts) -

Every time I check it's empty, and I don't really want to sit with one or two other players waiting for people. You keep telling me I should, but why? If it's going to take an hour to get a game going when I could just go join any other random server, really what's the reasoning?

Please don't take this as criticism or whatever, cos I really want to play with you guys it's just that I've never seen any of you play.

It's the only server on my favourites and I've never seen more than 4 people, albeit I've never tried joining any organised event.

I would play exclusively on that server, 'cept nobody else does. I live in the UK, and it's empty all day UK time and all day US time, so I'm not even sure if anyone ever joins, so I don't know what a good time to check is.

Also, I am fucking shocking at the PC version of BF3, somewhat due to my graphics card.

EDIT: It's empty right now. 2 people. I would have expected this thread to kick something off...

#17 Posted by Pie (7110 posts) -

I got a shout out!

#18 Posted by AhmadMetallic (18954 posts) -
@Canteu said:

Every time I check it's empty, and I don't really want to sit with one or two other players waiting for people. You keep telling me I should, but why? If it's going to take an hour to get a game going when I could just go join any other random server, really what's the reasoning?

During the last two weeks we've had it go near full capacity twice, we had a few 20-30 man matches and for the past 4 days we've had 5v5 sniper only matches.  
I'm not asking you to jump on on your own and wait. I'm asking people to use the voice server or the mirc chatroom to jump start games, just like I do time and time again. 

EDIT: It's empty right now. 2 people. I would have expected this thread to kick something off...

You shouldn't have.. The point of this thread isn't to have people join immediately. It's like an advice for future games. This shit needs patience, it's about growing a gaming habit, bro.
#19 Posted by Canteu (2821 posts) -

Alright then. I don't even fucking play the PC version and i want this to happen, so i'm throwing my support in.

Downloading mumble right now and i'll even dust off my shitty mic headset.

Sucks wearing 2 headsets just for chat :(

#20 Posted by FrankCanada97 (4039 posts) -

I dislike that one of the scheduled bombing runs lands on a Tuesday.It's an odd time for me, can't make myself available. I'd join the mumble, but I lost my headset a long time ago. I should think about buying a new one.

#21 Posted by JOURN3Y (230 posts) -

http://battlelog.battlefield.com/bf3/user/theJOURN3Y/

This is my profile! Add me as a friend if you see no one playing in the server or want someone to play with. My life is to entertain you. Someone is always ready to play. I joined this group because i love GB and this group of people that plays all the time is the sweetest, dumbest, most offensive group of people (and swedes) and Battlefield is one of my favorite games ever. Thanks for the shout out Metallic :3

#22 Posted by 137 (481 posts) -

Are you the only one who can send out the gb notifications over steam? I just don't play battlefield 3 because I just don't feel there is no reason for me to play. It's like when I finished the main quest of skyrim and then tried to do the side quests I had lined up. I knew once they were finished my fun was over =( you can only go in and teabag some noobs so many times, yada ya. Battlefield 3 needs a real fucking intervention to bring me back to arms. I am available as a sit in alienware summer tournament series player for my clan and that's the jist of my battlefield 3 playing at the moment. My favorite aspect of the game was flying air vehicles and they somehow managed to make that something I hate and I've become an infantry only player and that can only entertain one for so long. When they patch the game I'll see if the thing has improved but their server rollouts fucked both of my clans servers, crashes, etc, etc. Now we cancelled both of our dead servers (used to be 100 in the world, to 43294032490284932092th) Just depressing man. =(

#23 Posted by xdaknightx69 (450 posts) -

i used to play on the UK server and attend as many bombing runs as i could. the ping is to high for me on the US server ( 300ms+) basically its a spawn and die scenario. then B2K patch/expansion came out and i started getting the loading/saving error loop, so whenever i play and the server changes maps i have to reload the game from battlelog, it gets annoying every time the server changes maps, so i have to quit my game then go into battlelog and join the server again and wait for it to load up the level.

i haven't played BF3 in months just because of this issue . i tried whatever i could but to no avail , so until Dice does something about it I'm out.

and trust me i miss playing :(

#24 Posted by bwmcmaste (859 posts) -

@AhmadMetallic: Title of thread should have mentioned that this is PC-specific.

#25 Posted by Jackel2072 (2278 posts) -

i keep the giant bomb server in my favorites, but i only play hardcore so i have never really joined the server before.

#26 Posted by JamesJeux007 (495 posts) -

Well, I don't own Battlefield 3... but my brother and I thought of picking it up once the price drops a little bit, and this looks like a lot of fun so... Who knows, once I have finished ME3... ;')

#27 Edited by Grimey (18 posts) -

: I'm new to the PC version of BF3, so I am eager to play as often as time will allow me. That said, when I do find the time to play, I will use mIRC and Mumble to try and get a game together if the server is empty.

I really like playing with fellow GiantBombers, they're just not jerks like the randoms you tend to find online. I actually got to play a few hours this week on Tuesday and Wednesday night on the GB server. It was a good time.

Edit: Anyone feel free to add me to their friends list. I am Grimey1982.

#28 Posted by JohnWayne (1 posts) -

I want to tell anyone that's on the fence about BF3 to give it a try as Origin has it for 50% off until the end of the week.

#29 Edited by Branthog (5595 posts) -

Yeah, I kicked in a big chunk of money for the servers from the beginning and had a blast for the first couple of weeks. Then Skyrim came out and it was an immediate drop in server population (literally, it went from almost always full to always empty overnight on the Skyrim's launch). I kept dropping in as much as I could, but both the server and mumble are completely dead every time I try to swing by. Even if I just sit idle for awhile waiting for people to show up. I think a lot of that just has to do with the luck of the draw, as far as my availability and schedule being inconsistent and incongruous with everyone else's (I almost never am able to make the arranged game nights, due to other obligations). That's why the server was so great in the beginning. There was *always* stuff going on, so you could just drop in.

I'm not sure what will really get it back to that. On any other server out there, a population of 300+ would ensure that it would be full 24x7, pretty regularly. From what I'm hearing, this isn't unique to GiantBomb, though. It seems to be that - except for a few servers like EVGA and Reddit, the BF3 population supposedly dropped significantly and quickly across the board. And, since I'm only really interested in playing with other duders, I've literally not played a single Karkand map with another human being since it came out. :)

With some memory problem debugging having just recently finished, I'm planning to get BF3 installed again this week and will be buzzing around the server in anticipation a little more, again. (I've basically field stripped and rebuilt the entire primary gaming rig, which took most of the past month).

But, seriously, it's definitely strange, because back in the day, CS servers never had this problem. If you had regular members, that server was always full and you had people refreshing for an hour dying to get an open slot. I'm baffled.

PS: Part of the reason Mumble has had a hard time, it seems to me, is that there are always 800 fucking different channels and we're all split up among them and dicking around force-moving people into one room or another. There aren't enough people in it to really facilitate splitting shit up so much, beyond just "TEAM A" and "TEAM B".

#30 Posted by Jams (2965 posts) -

@AhmadMetallic: I just got BF3 yesterday from the Origin sale. I'm playing the campaign right now, but I'll jump on multiplayer one I get myself settled with playing an FPS again. Once I do get settled in, I'll jump on Mumble (even though I hate voice chat) and get try and make the GB server my main server to play on. I'll get on the IRC chat too later today.

#31 Posted by Sign (293 posts) -

When I finally got around to playing BF3 every time I logged in the server was empty. I always wanted to sit on the server to entice more people to play but all I could do was sit frozen in the game because it needed 2 people to start. So my choices were either go play on another server or sit idle and hope other people joined. I tried that several times, no one ever joined, then I eventually moved away from the game. Lately I have been working through my single player backlog but I would like to eventually start playing BF3 again. The few times I have managed to play it was a lot of fun.

#32 Posted by GS_Dan (1406 posts) -

<3

#33 Posted by Bollard (5762 posts) -

I'd love to play more often, I really would, but the Tuesday run always clashes with a podcast I do, I'm not sure when the other weekday one is and on the weekends I sometines go to football on Saturdays, and/or see my girlfriend on Sundays. I really, really enjoy the runs Ahmad and appreciate the effort you put in, I just find it hard to be around to come on!

#34 Posted by ArtelinaRose (1859 posts) -

My friend picked this up for the both of us on sale last night, so if I ever see the server has some people in it, I'll definitely join.

#35 Posted by mfpantst (2574 posts) -

The rumors of my death are greatly exaggerated.  Well, nevermind.  The birth of my son has impeded greatly my ability to play PC games (not xbox games, for reasons that are difficult to explain succinctly).  In any case I'll see about making more time to log onto battlefield and play.  I prefer playing full servers but I'm not above logging on solo or with 5-10 people.  So I'll do better man.

#36 Posted by AhmadMetallic (18954 posts) -
@Branthog said:

Even if I just sit idle for awhile waiting for people to show up.

That's like waiting for a stone to move, dude. This is the point of this thread: Nothing happens when you idle and wait for others to show up. Initiative as a community is needed. 

I think a lot of that just has to do with the luck of the draw, as far as my availability and schedule being inconsistent and incongruous with everyone else's (I almost never am able to make the arranged game nights, due to other obligations). That's why the server was so great in the beginning. There was *always* stuff going on, so you could just drop in.

I, along with the regulars, try to change that as much as we can. "always" can be a thing when people get together through the chatroom/voice server/steam chat/battlelog and decide to play, sadly everyone depends on the bombing runs. 

I'm not sure what will really get it back to that. On any other server out there, a population of 300+ would ensure that it would be full 24x7, pretty regularly. From what I'm hearing, this isn't unique to GiantBomb, though. It seems to be that - except for a few servers like EVGA and Reddit, the BF3 population supposedly dropped significantly and quickly across the board. And, since I'm only really interested in playing with other duders, I've literally not played a single Karkand map with another human being since it came out. :)

Very good point. I probably shouldn't compare to BF2 because this game just doesn't have that lasting addictive appeal that turns people into hardcore 24/7 players. I've seen the heads of some of the biggest BF communities complain on the official forums that this game's anti... community-ism caused their BF communities to simply perish. 

PS: Part of the reason Mumble has had a hard time, it seems to me, is that there are always 800 fucking different channels and we're all split up among them and dicking around force-moving people into one room or another. There aren't enough people in it to really facilitate splitting shit up so much, beyond just "TEAM A" and "TEAM B".

Mumble has considerably been improved since the opening weeks. Great clear structure serving the multiple purposes of it. 
#37 Edited by Sbaitso (558 posts) -

I remember having a great time when the game first launched. And then it kinda died off when I was trying to get into a game. Now that I've refreshed my that I've got a refreshed PC and am currently installing battlefield, I find I can't join the Mumble server anymore? It has never asked me for a password before so maybe something has changed that I'm not aware of?

Edit:Nvm, guess I just can't use the same name as before. Bummer.

#38 Posted by Extreme_Popcorn (842 posts) -

I don't play the server for two reason.

The maps are the wrong size, put them to 32 player so it's actually fun to play with a lower number of players and it's also directly linked to my second reason which is it's no fun at all to be raped by a chopper and other vehicles on a low pop server. What's the point in trying to play when the other team has a good chopper and 2-3 vehicles, there isn't and it's about as much fun as being kicked in the nuts.

#39 Posted by Itwastuesday (981 posts) -

I'm pretty busy between school and... other video games, but I may jump on the server every now and then. Do you guys play on the expansion maps?

#40 Posted by Althox (294 posts) -

Well, as you know Metallic, I'm quite busy at the moment. But after the finals, damn I'm gonna play with you guys.

//G-Snutten

#41 Posted by AlexW00d (6389 posts) -

@Extreme_Popcorn said:

I don't play the server for two reason.

The maps are the wrong size, put them to 32 player so it's actually fun to play with a lower number of players and it's also directly linked to my second reason which is it's no fun at all to be raped by a chopper and other vehicles on a low pop server. What's the point in trying to play when the other team has a good chopper and 2-3 vehicles, there isn't and it's about as much fun as being kicked in the nuts.

No-one ever plays seriously when it's so few people though, if you were in the mumble with us you'd know that.

And as soon as you rage-quit, the round ended, and I changed it to a rush map, which suited the numbers, and got it to fill up. You just need to nut up and persevere like the rest of us.

#42 Posted by ZagZagovich (769 posts) -

I recently updated my PC so I can finally play the game but I couldn't find the GB server in server browser. Also I'm from Russia so I don't know if the ping will be bearable. Can I join you guys though?

#43 Posted by GS_Dan (1406 posts) -
#44 Posted by Extreme_Popcorn (842 posts) -

@AlexW00d said:

@Extreme_Popcorn said:

I don't play the server for two reason.

The maps are the wrong size, put them to 32 player so it's actually fun to play with a lower number of players and it's also directly linked to my second reason which is it's no fun at all to be raped by a chopper and other vehicles on a low pop server. What's the point in trying to play when the other team has a good chopper and 2-3 vehicles, there isn't and it's about as much fun as being kicked in the nuts.

No-one ever plays seriously when it's so few people though, if you were in the mumble with us you'd know that.

And as soon as you rage-quit, the round ended, and I changed it to a rush map, which suited the numbers, and got it to fill up. You just need to nut up and persevere like the rest of us.

I don't play a game to persevere, I play it for fun. It was 45 minutes after the Bombing Run started that I left with 6 people on the server.

#45 Edited by Swoxx (3006 posts) -

Hey my name was mentioned. Now I have to post in this thread!

Done.

ps. the bombing runs are great fun, show up and find out. May I also add that being on mumble makes the experience much better. You don't have to have a mic or talk, you can just listen in to the amazing banter we produce.

#46 Posted by TooSweet (400 posts) -

Hey. I've been MIA but will make an effort to show up at least once a week. So many games to play and then there is work and other responsibilities. But looking forward to meeting some of you guys.

This edit will also create new pages on Giant Bomb for:

Beware, you are proposing to add brand new pages to the wiki along with your edits. Make sure this is what you intended. This will likely increase the time it takes for your changes to go live.

Comment and Save

Until you earn 1000 points all your submissions need to be vetted by other Giant Bomb users. This process takes no more than a few hours and we'll send you an email once approved.