We got a legit beta leak! and the crowd goes nuts!

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#3 Posted by clstirens (847 posts) -

Good stuff. Still not so sure about this battlelog business.. (and yes, I was actually in the alpha and it did work just fine)

#4 Posted by ShiftyMagician (2129 posts) -

Fuck me the jet gameplay is awesome!

#5 Posted by xdaknightx69 (449 posts) -

i thought the beta/demo was gonna come out on 11th sept

#6 Posted by coakroach (2490 posts) -

Pffft, its just another modern military fi-

Jets.

AAAAWWWWWWWWW SHIIIIIIIIIIT SON

#7 Edited by Doctorchimp (4074 posts) -

The sense of speed from that cockpit is pretty intense...

And the rushed radio messages as you light guys up on your HUD as you spin your head around in the cockpit? The day that game comes out I'm just gonna scream Goose for hours on end.

#8 Edited by Superfriend (1540 posts) -

Could this possibly be any lower res?? Dude could have at least uploaded in non-cellphone resolution. Really hard to see things here.
There are some other gameplay things that came out today (possibly the same leaker, but even worse resolution in some):
 
  

  
  
  
 
  
#9 Posted by Vodun (2370 posts) -

I never understood why you don't have rockets you can fire backwards.

#10 Posted by Superfriend (1540 posts) -
@Vodun said:

I never understood why you don't have rockets you can fire backwards.

This whole flight sequence looks a little.. weird. It has to be on rails and the player is basically the gunner of the aircraft? Idk, just looks weird that he has to "look at" the aircraft he wants to take out till they explode.
#11 Posted by Gizmo (5389 posts) -

I got a bit bored after a couple of minutes.

#12 Posted by itsjoncharles (75 posts) -

SP looks good, but well all know multiplayer is deal breaker.

#13 Posted by TaliciaDragonsong (8698 posts) -

Looks alright, definitely picking this up when I can get it for 20.

#14 Posted by foggel (2763 posts) -

@TaliciaDragonsong said:

Looks alright, definitely picking this up when I can get it for 20.

I'm buying it full price.

#15 Posted by warxsnake (2645 posts) -

It's good that its there, but whatever. Multiplayer betch.

#16 Posted by emem (1965 posts) -

@itsjoncharles said:

SP looks good, but well all know multiplayer is deal breaker.

"Deal breaker" probably doesn't mean what you think it means. But yeah, most people buy the game because of the multiplayer.. and I can't imagine it being a deal breaker for anyone.

#17 Posted by Zatoichi_Sanjuro (945 posts) -

The sense of speed in that jet sequence is awful. Play LOMAC or any number of flight games and you'll know how fast it really should feel. It also looked like an on-rails-fest á la MOH's Apache level.
 
I have a feeling these vids, and particularly that awful 360 screenshot, are marketing "leaks" to downplay expectations for what the console version will look like.

#18 Posted by itsjoncharles (75 posts) -

@emem: isn't deal breaker a factor which sways a person over whether they will do something or, in this case, buy something? The multiplayer for many, many people is what they are buying BF3 for.

#19 Posted by Jimbo (9797 posts) -

@Vodun said:

I never understood why you don't have rockets you can fire backwards.

When you fired them they'd be travelling the wrong way at several hundred mph = :(

#20 Posted by The_Nubster (2090 posts) -
@itsjoncharles: It's similar but also totally opposite. A deal breaker is what makes someone not buy, or not do, a thing. For example, if the single player was the single greatest thing on the earth but you cared about multiplayer and it sucked ass, that would be a deal breaker.
#21 Posted by Vodun (2370 posts) -

@Jimbo said:

@Vodun said:

I never understood why you don't have rockets you can fire backwards.

When you fired them they'd be travelling the wrong way at several hundred mph = :(

True, but the object you're firing at is also moving at this speed, so the rocket propulsion would only have to apply enough force for it to move slower than you. Resulting in it moving towards your target.

#22 Edited by emem (1965 posts) -

@itsjoncharles: Just like @The_Nubster wrote, it basically means that there is something that "breaks the deal" for you, so in your case you wrote that the multiplayer is the negative part that stops (or can stop) you/people from buying the game. It's nothing to feel bad about though.. happens to everyone. ;)

#23 Posted by Hector (3357 posts) -

Man October can't come any quicker!

#24 Posted by Jimbo (9797 posts) -

@Vodun said:

@Jimbo said:

@Vodun said:

I never understood why you don't have rockets you can fire backwards.

When you fired them they'd be travelling the wrong way at several hundred mph = :(

True, but the object you're firing at is also moving at this speed, so the rocket propulsion would only have to apply enough force for it to move slower than you. Resulting in it moving towards your target.

'Moving towards' is a bit optimistic. The distance between target and missile would decrease initially, true, but the missile would still be flying backwards and falling out of the sky due to having no lift or maneuverability. Instead of the missile directing itself into target, you would be relying on the target flying itself into the missile (unlikely).

#25 Posted by TaliciaDragonsong (8698 posts) -
@foggel said:

@TaliciaDragonsong said:

Looks alright, definitely picking this up when I can get it for 20.

I'm buying it full price.

I'm not, not much of a fan of war shooters anyway, mostly getting it for co op and mp fun with my cousin.
I've got too many other purchases which I can barely afford to be able to buy this fullprice, nor do I think its worth it (purely my opinion, I'm sure the game is great for others who dig it!).
#26 Posted by Vodun (2370 posts) -

@Jimbo said:

@Vodun said:

@Jimbo said:

@Vodun said:

I never understood why you don't have rockets you can fire backwards.

When you fired them they'd be travelling the wrong way at several hundred mph = :(

True, but the object you're firing at is also moving at this speed, so the rocket propulsion would only have to apply enough force for it to move slower than you. Resulting in it moving towards your target.

'Moving towards' is a bit optimistic. The distance between target and missile would decrease initially, true, but the missile would still be flying backwards and falling out of the sky due to having no lift or maneuverability. Instead of the missile directing itself into target, you would be relying on the target flying itself into the missile (unlikely).

How about an initial free-fall, with the missile maintaining altitude by way of fins, slowing down by air resistance until it was behind the other craft and then firing its propulsion?

(I am of course aware that greater minds than mine have not seen this idea as feasible, hence we don't have them..but it's still fun to discuss as laymen).

#27 Posted by SSully (4148 posts) -

@Superfriend said:

@Vodun said:

I never understood why you don't have rockets you can fire backwards.

This whole flight sequence looks a little.. weird. It has to be on rails and the player is basically the gunner of the aircraft? Idk, just looks weird that he has to "look at" the aircraft he wants to take out till they explode.

The player is the gunner, so yes it is on rails. Thats why he is targeting the enemy aircraft and dropping the flares.

#28 Posted by Jimbo (9797 posts) -

@Vodun: That was the only way I could think of that might sort of work too (I would call it a Tom Cruise Missile). Heat-seaking might be a pretty bad idea though...

#29 Posted by Superfriend (1540 posts) -
@SSully: Yeah.. really hope there´s other in-jet stuff that´s not on rails. Would be nice to learn all the vehicles in SP and then know about the controls in MP.
Bad Company 1 had a heli level.. but it wasn´t very complex (basically a straight corridor/canyon) and it didn´t really train people to be better pilots in Multiplayer.
#30 Posted by big_jon (5723 posts) -

Pretty messed up that it took this long to see Xbox 360 footage.

#31 Edited by withateethuh (726 posts) -

I don't care if that jet footage is on rails and you're just the co-pilot, the voice acting and heavy breathing is exactly how a pilot sounds trying to avoid being shot down by a heat seaking missile. That is some really well-done and realistic voice acting. That sold it to me. Also the other f/a-18 flying over you is awesome.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2uh4yMAx2UA&feature=related footage of a pilot evading surface-to-air missiles, for reference. Watch at halfway through.

#32 Edited by Seppli (10251 posts) -

Here's a proper embed of good quality. Looks like an immersive onrails jet segment for SP.

#33 Posted by Zatoichi_Sanjuro (945 posts) -

@withateethuh said:

I don't care if that jet footage is on rails and you're just the co-pilot, the voice acting and heavy breathing is exactly how a pilot sounds trying to avoid being shot down by a heat seaking missile. That is some really well-done and realistic voice acting. That sold it to me. Also the other f/a-18 flying over you is awesome.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2uh4yMAx2UA&feature=related footage of a pilot evading surface-to-air missiles, for reference. Watch at halfway through.

Not even remotely original for a video game.

These on-rails "gameplay" segments are becoming the bane of video games. It's a one-button controller future if they keep pandering to the lowest common denominator.

#34 Posted by gamb1t (965 posts) -

@TaliciaDragonsong said:

Looks alright, definitely picking this up when I can get it for 20.

lol it took bf2 about 5 years to get to that have fun

#35 Posted by Hyperfludd (373 posts) -

Immersion indeed. Seems like a long shot, but you think B-Company would at least make a small cameo somewhere?

#36 Edited by Donos (1194 posts) -

@Zatoichi_Sanjuro said:

@withateethuh said:

I don't care if that jet footage is on rails and you're just the co-pilot, the voice acting and heavy breathing is exactly how a pilot sounds trying to avoid being shot down by a heat seaking missile. That is some really well-done and realistic voice acting. That sold it to me. Also the other f/a-18 flying over you is awesome.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2uh4yMAx2UA&feature=related footage of a pilot evading surface-to-air missiles, for reference. Watch at halfway through.

Not even remotely original for a video game.

These on-rails "gameplay" segments are becoming the bane of video games. It's a one-button controller future if they keep pandering to the lowest common denominator.

Looked cool to me. Sorry, guess I'm a terrible person then.

#37 Posted by Giantstalker (1605 posts) -
@Donos said:

Looked cool to me. Guess I'm a terrible person then?

Nope, you're fine, I thought that game trailer was awesome also. That was just jaded gamer #576923 giving us his .02 about modern military shooters.
#38 Posted by piropeople13 (399 posts) -

@Vodun said:

I never understood why you don't have rockets you can fire backwards.

They have those on real jets right? At least the ones that can turn and hit a pursuer.

#39 Posted by PeasantAbuse (5138 posts) -

That looked awesome, I also really liked the voice acting.

#40 Posted by Turambar (6713 posts) -

@Vodun said:

I never understood why you don't have rockets you can fire backwards.

Can you imagine just how much thrust you need for a rocket to be launched in one direction at super sonic speed, come to a stop, and then go back wards? Missiles that are shot forward but does a giant 180 degree turn is a lot more feasible. Physics is a bitch.

#41 Posted by Zatoichi_Sanjuro (945 posts) -

@Giantstalker said:

@Donos said:

Looked cool to me. Guess I'm a terrible person then?

Nope, you're fine, I thought that game trailer was awesome also. That was just jaded gamer #576923 giving us his .02 about modern military shooters.

That wasn't a trailer, that was gameplay, but then you wouldn't know the difference.

#42 Posted by DonPixel (2585 posts) -

Good news, I'm glad to see the 360/console version looks that good, I'm getting it for both PC and 360.

#43 Posted by jmrwacko (2443 posts) -

@Vodun said:

@Jimbo said:

@Vodun said:

I never understood why you don't have rockets you can fire backwards.

When you fired them they'd be travelling the wrong way at several hundred mph = :(

True, but the object you're firing at is also moving at this speed, so the rocket propulsion would only have to apply enough force for it to move slower than you. Resulting in it moving towards your target.

The problem is that it wouldn't hit the target with much momentum because it's basically decelerating to 0 m/s, so it wouldn't do any ballistic damage.

#44 Posted by Jimbo (9797 posts) -

@jmrwacko said:

@Vodun said:

@Jimbo said:

@Vodun said:

I never understood why you don't have rockets you can fire backwards.

When you fired them they'd be travelling the wrong way at several hundred mph = :(

True, but the object you're firing at is also moving at this speed, so the rocket propulsion would only have to apply enough force for it to move slower than you. Resulting in it moving towards your target.

The problem is that it wouldn't hit the target with much momentum because it's basically decelerating to 0 m/s, so it wouldn't do any ballistic damage.

That isn't the problem, and missiles don't work like that.

#45 Posted by Franstone (1107 posts) -

Good job Dice/EA for letting idots who leak footage while people like myself and others who would respect your NDA are dying to try it out.

Golf clap...

#46 Posted by SammydesinasNL (840 posts) -

@withateethuh said:

I don't care if that jet footage is on rails and you're just the co-pilot, the voice acting and heavy breathing is exactly how a pilot sounds trying to avoid being shot down by a heat seaking missile. That is some really well-done and realistic voice acting. That sold it to me. Also the other f/a-18 flying over you is awesome.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2uh4yMAx2UA&feature=related footage of a pilot evading surface-to-air missiles, for reference. Watch at halfway through.

you might wanna skip to 6:13 and hear something really familiar.

#47 Posted by Mikemcn (6968 posts) -

Why did I preorder and not get a beta key, EA is a bitch. Why do they have to hold battlefield hostage.

#48 Posted by withateethuh (726 posts) -

@SammydesinasNL said:

@withateethuh said:

I don't care if that jet footage is on rails and you're just the co-pilot, the voice acting and heavy breathing is exactly how a pilot sounds trying to avoid being shot down by a heat seaking missile. That is some really well-done and realistic voice acting. That sold it to me. Also the other f/a-18 flying over you is awesome.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2uh4yMAx2UA&feature=related footage of a pilot evading surface-to-air missiles, for reference. Watch at halfway through.

you might wanna skip to 6:13 and hear something really familiar.

I also noticed that.

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