http://twitter.com/#!/zh1nt0/status/113097772013592576

Good stuff. Still not so sure about this battlelog business.. (and yes, I was actually in the alpha and it did work just fine)

Fuck me the jet gameplay is awesome!

i thought the beta/demo was gonna come out on 11th sept

Pffft, its just another modern military fi-

Jets.

AAAAWWWWWWWWW SHIIIIIIIIIIT SON

The sense of speed from that cockpit is pretty intense...

And the rushed radio messages as you light guys up on your HUD as you spin your head around in the cockpit? The day that game comes out I'm just gonna scream Goose for hours on end.

Could this possibly be any lower res?? Dude could have at least uploaded in non-cellphone resolution. Really hard to see things here.
There are some other gameplay things that came out today (possibly the same leaker, but even worse resolution in some):
 
  

I never understood why you don't have rockets you can fire backwards.

I never understood why you don't have rockets you can fire backwards.

I got a bit bored after a couple of minutes.

SP looks good, but well all know multiplayer is deal breaker.

Looks alright, definitely picking this up when I can get it for 20.

@TaliciaDragonsong said:

Looks alright, definitely picking this up when I can get it for 20.

I'm buying it full price.

It's good that its there, but whatever. Multiplayer betch.

@itsjoncharles said:

SP looks good, but well all know multiplayer is deal breaker.

"Deal breaker" probably doesn't mean what you think it means. But yeah, most people buy the game because of the multiplayer.. and I can't imagine it being a deal breaker for anyone.

The sense of speed in that jet sequence is awful. Play LOMAC or any number of flight games and you'll know how fast it really should feel. It also looked like an on-rails-fest á la MOH's Apache level.
 
I have a feeling these vids, and particularly that awful 360 screenshot, are marketing "leaks" to downplay expectations for what the console version will look like.

@emem: isn't deal breaker a factor which sways a person over whether they will do something or, in this case, buy something? The multiplayer for many, many people is what they are buying BF3 for.

@Vodun said:

I never understood why you don't have rockets you can fire backwards.

When you fired them they'd be travelling the wrong way at several hundred mph = :(

@Jimbo said:

@Vodun said:

I never understood why you don't have rockets you can fire backwards.

When you fired them they'd be travelling the wrong way at several hundred mph = :(

True, but the object you're firing at is also moving at this speed, so the rocket propulsion would only have to apply enough force for it to move slower than you. Resulting in it moving towards your target.

@itsjoncharles: Just like @The_Nubster wrote, it basically means that there is something that "breaks the deal" for you, so in your case you wrote that the multiplayer is the negative part that stops (or can stop) you/people from buying the game. It's nothing to feel bad about though.. happens to everyone. ;)

Man October can't come any quicker!

@Vodun said:

@Jimbo said:

@Vodun said:

I never understood why you don't have rockets you can fire backwards.

When you fired them they'd be travelling the wrong way at several hundred mph = :(

True, but the object you're firing at is also moving at this speed, so the rocket propulsion would only have to apply enough force for it to move slower than you. Resulting in it moving towards your target.

'Moving towards' is a bit optimistic. The distance between target and missile would decrease initially, true, but the missile would still be flying backwards and falling out of the sky due to having no lift or maneuverability. Instead of the missile directing itself into target, you would be relying on the target flying itself into the missile (unlikely).

@TaliciaDragonsong said:

Looks alright, definitely picking this up when I can get it for 20.

I'm buying it full price.

@Jimbo said:

@Vodun said:

@Jimbo said:

@Vodun said:

I never understood why you don't have rockets you can fire backwards.

When you fired them they'd be travelling the wrong way at several hundred mph = :(

True, but the object you're firing at is also moving at this speed, so the rocket propulsion would only have to apply enough force for it to move slower than you. Resulting in it moving towards your target.

'Moving towards' is a bit optimistic. The distance between target and missile would decrease initially, true, but the missile would still be flying backwards and falling out of the sky due to having no lift or maneuverability. Instead of the missile directing itself into target, you would be relying on the target flying itself into the missile (unlikely).

How about an initial free-fall, with the missile maintaining altitude by way of fins, slowing down by air resistance until it was behind the other craft and then firing its propulsion?

(I am of course aware that greater minds than mine have not seen this idea as feasible, hence we don't have them..but it's still fun to discuss as laymen).

@Superfriend said:

@Vodun said:

I never understood why you don't have rockets you can fire backwards.

This whole flight sequence looks a little.. weird. It has to be on rails and the player is basically the gunner of the aircraft? Idk, just looks weird that he has to "look at" the aircraft he wants to take out till they explode.

The player is the gunner, so yes it is on rails. Thats why he is targeting the enemy aircraft and dropping the flares.

@Vodun: That was the only way I could think of that might sort of work too (I would call it a Tom Cruise Missile). Heat-seaking might be a pretty bad idea though...

Pretty messed up that it took this long to see Xbox 360 footage.

I don't care if that jet footage is on rails and you're just the co-pilot, the voice acting and heavy breathing is exactly how a pilot sounds trying to avoid being shot down by a heat seaking missile. That is some really well-done and realistic voice acting. That sold it to me. Also the other f/a-18 flying over you is awesome.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2uh4yMAx2UA&feature=related footage of a pilot evading surface-to-air missiles, for reference. Watch at halfway through.

Here's a proper embed of good quality. Looks like an immersive onrails jet segment for SP.

@withateethuh said:

I don't care if that jet footage is on rails and you're just the co-pilot, the voice acting and heavy breathing is exactly how a pilot sounds trying to avoid being shot down by a heat seaking missile. That is some really well-done and realistic voice acting. That sold it to me. Also the other f/a-18 flying over you is awesome.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2uh4yMAx2UA&feature=related footage of a pilot evading surface-to-air missiles, for reference. Watch at halfway through.

Not even remotely original for a video game.

These on-rails "gameplay" segments are becoming the bane of video games. It's a one-button controller future if they keep pandering to the lowest common denominator.

@TaliciaDragonsong said:

Looks alright, definitely picking this up when I can get it for 20.

lol it took bf2 about 5 years to get to that have fun

Immersion indeed. Seems like a long shot, but you think B-Company would at least make a small cameo somewhere?

@Zatoichi_Sanjuro said:

@withateethuh said:

I don't care if that jet footage is on rails and you're just the co-pilot, the voice acting and heavy breathing is exactly how a pilot sounds trying to avoid being shot down by a heat seaking missile. That is some really well-done and realistic voice acting. That sold it to me. Also the other f/a-18 flying over you is awesome.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2uh4yMAx2UA&feature=related footage of a pilot evading surface-to-air missiles, for reference. Watch at halfway through.

Not even remotely original for a video game.

These on-rails "gameplay" segments are becoming the bane of video games. It's a one-button controller future if they keep pandering to the lowest common denominator.

Looked cool to me. Sorry, guess I'm a terrible person then.

Looked cool to me. Guess I'm a terrible person then?

@Vodun said:

I never understood why you don't have rockets you can fire backwards.

They have those on real jets right? At least the ones that can turn and hit a pursuer.

That looked awesome, I also really liked the voice acting.

@Vodun said:

I never understood why you don't have rockets you can fire backwards.

Can you imagine just how much thrust you need for a rocket to be launched in one direction at super sonic speed, come to a stop, and then go back wards? Missiles that are shot forward but does a giant 180 degree turn is a lot more feasible. Physics is a bitch.

@Giantstalker said:

@Donos said:

Looked cool to me. Guess I'm a terrible person then?

Nope, you're fine, I thought that game trailer was awesome also. That was just jaded gamer #576923 giving us his .02 about modern military shooters.

That wasn't a trailer, that was gameplay, but then you wouldn't know the difference.

Good news, I'm glad to see the 360/console version looks that good, I'm getting it for both PC and 360.

@Vodun said:

@Jimbo said:

@Vodun said:

I never understood why you don't have rockets you can fire backwards.

When you fired them they'd be travelling the wrong way at several hundred mph = :(

True, but the object you're firing at is also moving at this speed, so the rocket propulsion would only have to apply enough force for it to move slower than you. Resulting in it moving towards your target.

The problem is that it wouldn't hit the target with much momentum because it's basically decelerating to 0 m/s, so it wouldn't do any ballistic damage.

@jmrwacko said:

@Vodun said:

@Jimbo said:

@Vodun said:

I never understood why you don't have rockets you can fire backwards.

When you fired them they'd be travelling the wrong way at several hundred mph = :(

True, but the object you're firing at is also moving at this speed, so the rocket propulsion would only have to apply enough force for it to move slower than you. Resulting in it moving towards your target.

The problem is that it wouldn't hit the target with much momentum because it's basically decelerating to 0 m/s, so it wouldn't do any ballistic damage.

That isn't the problem, and missiles don't work like that.

Good job Dice/EA for letting idots who leak footage while people like myself and others who would respect your NDA are dying to try it out.

Golf clap...

@withateethuh said:

I don't care if that jet footage is on rails and you're just the co-pilot, the voice acting and heavy breathing is exactly how a pilot sounds trying to avoid being shot down by a heat seaking missile. That is some really well-done and realistic voice acting. That sold it to me. Also the other f/a-18 flying over you is awesome.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2uh4yMAx2UA&feature=related footage of a pilot evading surface-to-air missiles, for reference. Watch at halfway through.

you might wanna skip to 6:13 and hear something really familiar.

Why did I preorder and not get a beta key, EA is a bitch. Why do they have to hold battlefield hostage.

@SammydesinasNL said:

@withateethuh said:

I don't care if that jet footage is on rails and you're just the co-pilot, the voice acting and heavy breathing is exactly how a pilot sounds trying to avoid being shot down by a heat seaking missile. That is some really well-done and realistic voice acting. That sold it to me. Also the other f/a-18 flying over you is awesome.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2uh4yMAx2UA&feature=related footage of a pilot evading surface-to-air missiles, for reference. Watch at halfway through.

you might wanna skip to 6:13 and hear something really familiar.

I also noticed that.