Since mid-2008, ive been playing Battlefield 2 nonstop.  
I play on version 1.0, which has mods 
 
Now the word 'mods' seems to have two meanings :  

1. the mods i personally care about, which give you infinite sprint, endless vehicles, atleast 10 jets and 10 helicopters running at the same time, powerful jet afterburner and helicopter torque, etc...  call them gameplay pills if you will 
2. the mods i keep hearing about which i have no interest in, like Project Reality etc... all the community-made modified versions of the game 

Just watch this modded balanced action, something most Battlefield veterans never experienced : 

tl:dr   

Since mid-2008, ive been playing Battlefield 2 nonstop.  
I play on version 1.0, which has mods 
 
Now the word 'mods' seems to have two meanings :  

1. the mods i personally care about, which give you infinite sprint, endless vehicles, atleast 10 jets and 10 helicopters running at the same time, powerful jet afterburner and helicopter torque, etc...  call them gameplay pills if you will 
2. the mods i keep hearing about which i have no interest in, like Project Reality etc... all the community-made modified versions of the game 

Just watch this modded balanced action, something most Battlefield veterans never experienced : 

tl:dr   

So the millions that enjoyed regular BF2 can fuck off as long as the tiny minority who used mods are happy?  
 
And on a side note, I fucking hate jets and the utter cocks who spent most of the game flying in them and doing nothing more that getting a huge k/d ratio

" So the millions that enjoyed regular BF2 can fuck off as long as the tiny minority who used mods are happy?   And on a side note, I fucking hate jets and the utter cocks who spent most of the game flying in them and doing nothing more that getting a huge k/d ratio "

" @Buck_Sexington said:

" So the millions that enjoyed regular BF2 can fuck off as long as the tiny minority who used mods are happy?   And on a side note, I fucking hate jets and the utter cocks who spent most of the game flying in them and doing nothing more that getting a huge k/d ratio "

I'm with this. Although, I must say that I actually enjoyed jets, just not most of the people who used them... "

" @PrimeSynergy said:

" @Buck_Sexington said:

" So the millions that enjoyed regular BF2 can fuck off as long as the tiny minority who used mods are happy?   And on a side note, I fucking hate jets and the utter cocks who spent most of the game flying in them and doing nothing more that getting a huge k/d ratio "

I'm with this. Although, I must say that I actually enjoyed jets, just not most of the people who used them... "

I feel the same way about snipers and shotguns in every modern multiplayer game. "

"  And on a side note, I fucking hate jets and the utter cocks who spent most of the game flying in them and doing nothing more that getting a huge k/d ratio "

Because a good player flying a jet was able to completely rape an entire team all on his own. I really liked patched BF2 and also played quite a bit of the mods. Point of Existence in particular was very good, significantly better than the original game in fact.

So all your professions of love for BF2 have come from playing on modded servers that add things that break the game.  Sorry, but you just lost some BF2 vet cred.  There was nothing slow, primative, or retarded about the vanilla BF2 experience.  Those mods you love are not what cemented BF2 as one of if not the best PC shooter of the last decade.
 
Will BF3 be faster paced?  Probably.  It's essentially sounding like Bad Company 3.  Will there be plenty of vehicles?  Probably, but not the 10 aircraft per side you want.  Will the vehicles have instant respawn?  Highly doubt it.  It'll probably be comparable to BC2's vehicle respawn time.
 

@Buck_Sexington

" So the millions that enjoyed regular BF2 can fuck off as long as the tiny minority who used mods are happy? "

"And on a side note, I fucking hate jets and the utter cocks who spent most of the game flying in them and doing nothing more that getting a huge k/d ratio"

"Although, I must say that I actually enjoyed jets, just not most of the people who used them... "

" Because a good player flying a jet was able to completely rape an entire team all on his own. I really liked patched BF2 and also played quite a bit of the mods. Point of Existence in particular was very good, significantly better than the original game in fact. "

Don't be crazy.

To answer one of your questions. Yes there will more than likely be unlimited sprint just like there is in BC2. As for having shitloads of jets and choppers. That just seems like a terrible way to play. Everyone would just be flying trying to get as many kills as possible and not actually trying to capture flags like they should be.

I like slow action im my BF games, that CoD crap doesnt appeal to me.

Sounds like you don't really like what Battlefield is, just this modded version of it. 

Those mods don't sound like anything I'd want out of my BF2 experience. Then again people have different tastes, so who am I to judge?

I don't want more jets... those sons of bitches are really annoying. 1 per team is even pushing it.  
 
@S0ndor said:

" Because a good player flying a jet was able to completely rape an entire team all on his own. I really liked patched BF2 and also played quite a bit of the mods. Point of Existence in particular was very good, significantly better than the original game in fact. "

Wait wait wait. Aren't you the one who was in the middle of the having 4 kits controversy saying that giving less kits more flexible and useful gadgets and whatnot was a terrible idea? And now you reveal that you have been playing on modded 1.0 servers where everyone gets jets? It boggles my mind how you want tons of jets for everybody but being able to snipe and throw motion mines is the worst idea you have ever heard of. Not sure how that makes sense but alright.

Those videos weren't cool at all

Op is an elitist, lul.

" @Ahmad_Metallic:  I agree with you that having one person bombing the shit out of one team is a design flaw. But giving 10 guys on each team jets just turns it into ace combat instead of Battlefield 3.  "

Nobody is saying we don't want jets. We just don't want 400 jets on a single map. For huge maps like wake island ~3 jets per faction would be my ideal amount.
 
The modded BF2 that you have been playing is not the same battlefield that 99% of battlefield players know and love.

Bafflefield?
 
I'm not helping, I know. Sorry.

I never really played enough B2 to have a major opinion, but increasing the speed of vehicles, lowering respawn time, increasing the number of vehicles, and giving you endless sprint seem like something that is much more arcade like than Battlefield, which is supposed to fall a bit more on the sim side of things. On the same token, I think part of the problem is that back in 2005 having ten jets per team and a dozen tanks, and so forth, was more than both the computers and networks of the time could handle. Battlefield was a pretty intense workout for 2005 PC's and the slower data transfer rates of the time. So what you are describing wasn't really possible. Whether the modded version is better I can't really comment on as I haven't played the game since 2005, but I would argue that it was the technical limitations of the time that kept the game from being what you describe, more than DICE feeling that the game was better with fewer and slower vehicles. I'll be interested in seeing what they do on the plane front for B3. Obviously computers are a lot more powerful now, but the 360 is still essentially a 2005 computer, so how much more they can have going on is questionable. I would argue that we'll see infinite sprint, though. That has become standard in most games today.

" DICE seems to be going for a very "real" depiction of war with BF3. I assume it will be a combination of the tone of BF2 with the engine and gameplay of BC. Basically, it will be what the core BF franchise has always been; open to craziness, but not over-the-top with 6000 jets or inifite C4. "

" @Ahmad_Metallic said: 

" P.S. im sure most of you thought "BUNNY HOPPERS AND DOLPHIN DIVERS, GLITCHERS AND HACKERS" when u heard me say v1.0, but it was nothing like that. "

Then you didn't play 1.0 when 1.0 was new. Hell, doesn't sound like you played vanilla BF2 at all. The reason DICE removed Bunny Hoppers and Dolphin Divers was because it was abused to death. I'm no fan of all the changes DICE made with patches, they pretty much managed to kill the clan community every time a new patch was released, but I can understand them.  "

" And btw, there's no map with only 2 jets.  "

" no, what im saying is, vanilla BF2 is no longer the mayhem it used to be. there are several clans with populated servers who enforce the rules while still condoning crazy action and multiple jets and a few game enhancing mods.. so what im saying is, BF2 vanilla has changed, but im sure your impression is still the same. "

" as soon as you add mods the game is not vanilla BF2 "

"  But what happens when the teams become unbalanced and you have 5 jets harassing you team instead of 2? Fun, fun & fun? "

" the teams never get unbalanced. the servers either have auto balance, or have admin observation 24/7 making sure they're balanced "

multiple Jets sounds horrible, i love the pace of the battlefield franchise, unlimited sprint is a great idea and i figure they wil keep that from bad company but i want people on the ground to shoot at not everyone flying about like retarded supermen.

I've never played Battlefield but it sounds to me like you're describing an "ADHD version" of the game.

Sounds like the best solution isn't mods but instead that dice balance the game better- a few more jets and a slightly longer sprint time. No cheaters, no dumb shit, games still fun, everyone wins.

Loved BF 1942 to 2142. Hated BC 1 & 2. Hope BF3 stops overpowering some classes to make people play a more varied game than just a team of snipers calling in air-strikes and camping (not attacking people who snipe but just felt like in BC there was less of a reason to play another role when you could take out troops and vehicles fairly easily). Just hold back on the amount of players unlock-able abilities like mortar strikes being a rechargeable device and aim for a more skill / team based idea (like player kill-streaks or a "commander").  Would like a couple more vehicles to be fair. even if its for support like a transport helicopter or something not aimed at pure destruction. Just don't feel  the need 12 dune buggies and 1 crappy APC per map.
Perhaps they'll have a similar play-list system to COD or Halo where you have your basic rooms as well as a "Big team battle" or "Ground War" scenario with more vehicles.  Looking forward to it but we shall see.

How about they just put "ADD Mode" servers in BF3? Oh wait, that was the only mode BC2 had. But seriously, there are pills for your condition. Maybe you could enjoy good games at a slower pace if you took them?

that´s why i switched to PS3 .. mods and comunity to much of a hassle for me.