This is a small story that I found interesting.
"And [EA] still has the Vietnam DLC pack due up this month, targeted specifically to go after the Call of Duty: Black Ops market."
This is a quote from the Shaknews article, as I don't have a direct quote.
That statement was in a financial call in which EA CFO talked about money they were making through digital sales. Battlefield: 1943 made $16 million, with a budget in the single-digit millions.
They also attribute money from BC2 coming from a "continuous stream" of DLC.
Battlefield: Bad Company 2
Game » consists of 26 releases. Released Mar 02, 2010
Battlefield: Bad Company 2 is the second installment in this spin-off Battlefield series. It has a more serious campaign and a vastly expanded multiplayer system.
EA releasing BC2: Vietnam to go after the "Black Ops" market.
I don't think that taking a game that plays pretty differently from another game, and then making look sort of like the second game will attract as many people as they think.
Aren't they getting tired of copying COD, I mean really COD does modern warfare, BF has to do it, now COD does Vietnam and now BF wants to do it. Can't they come up with there own freakin ideas so we can have 2 different types of games!!!
" I don't think that taking a game that plays pretty differently from another game, and then making look sort of like the second game will attract as many people as they think. "I know Black Ops takes place in Vietnam for a bit, but the games look completely different to me. Maybe someone not so dedicated would think otherwise. ?
I think you got it backwards. BF had almost all of COD's big ideas first. COD4 wouldn't have been what it was if BF2 hadn't paved the way." Aren't they getting tired of copying COD, I mean really COD does modern warfare, BF has to do it, now COD does Vietnam and now BF wants to do it. Can't they come up with there own freakin ideas so we can have 2 different types of games!!! "
It seems EA is photocopying an already photocopied idea they had to begin with.
Other than the particular setting in the Vietnam add on Battlfield has done a lot of stuff prior to COD, (included the original bf vietnam back in 2004) .. COD is acutally a clon of CS which came back in 98, COD used to be a no one cares WW2 shooter, then after BF2 success they went "modern" with COD4.. perhaps you should know about FPS before posting dumb shit in the internet." Aren't they getting tired of copying COD, I mean really COD does modern warfare, BF has to do it, now COD does Vietnam and now BF wants to do it. Can't they come up with there own freakin ideas so we can have 2 different types of games!!! "
Anyway COD and Battlefield are two diferent animals, I don't understand why people keep comparing them, other than they "Modern Warfare" shooters, gameplay, design, and general tone are really diferent.
" @agentboolen said:Could not have said it better myself. What I noticed that CoD player who come to BFBC2 have a hard time adjusting to the style of the game as it's so much different. The BFBC2 design completely negates the CoD design philosophy which in turn makes them to either say that the game SUXS or they just end up playing Team DM.Other than the particular setting in the Vietnam add on Battlfield has done a lot of stuff prior to COD, (included the original bf vietnam back in 2004) .. COD is acutally a clon of CS which came back in 98, COD used to be a no one cares WW2 shooter after BF2 success they went "modern" with COD4.. perhaps you should know about FPS before posting dumb shit in the internet. Anyway COD and Battlefield are two diferent animals, I don't understand why people keep comparing them, other than they "Modern Warfare" shooters, gameplay, design, and general tone are really diferent. "" Aren't they getting tired of copying COD, I mean really COD does modern warfare, BF has to do it, now COD does Vietnam and now BF wants to do it. Can't they come up with there own freakin ideas so we can have 2 different types of games!!! "
I'm pretty sure the time of Battlefield being credited for original and interesting concepts has ended. At this point, they are very much intentionally following in CoD's shadow, and this has been the case for a while now. BF turned itself into this. It is as much credit to its faults as it is to it's merits. So yes, if BF does feel unoriginal at the moment, it's because it kinda is." @agentboolen said:
Other than the particular setting in the Vietnam add on Battlfield has done a lot of stuff prior to COD, (included the original bf vietnam back in 2004) .. COD is acutally a clon of CS which came back in 98, COD used to be a no one cares WW2 shooter, then after BF2 success they went "modern" with COD4.. perhaps you should know about FPS before posting dumb shit in the internet. "" Aren't they getting tired of copying COD, I mean really COD does modern warfare, BF has to do it, now COD does Vietnam and now BF wants to do it. Can't they come up with there own freakin ideas so we can have 2 different types of games!!! "
I agree, they are two very different breeds of FPS', but it is CoD that has been taking BF to school, not vice-versa.
I don't want to sound like an elitest jerk by saying this, but if mainstream CoD players gave BFBC2 a chance and worked out how to be a team and play the game, then they'll realise what a proper FPS is, oh, and we wouldn't have FUCKING montages on the interwebz anym0re!
I own Black Ops and I've put that mutha up on the virtual shelf with BC2:V pre-ordered. Six days until pre-order launch, if I read things right when I hit the EA Store.
And I don't think this was made to go for the Blops market in the first place. BF's been WW2, Vietnam, present and future. Future was a dump, WW2 is covered by 1943, present is done, Vietnam is the only thing left.
" @DonPixel said:Well, not all, because I play both games and I can easily handle the switch no problem." @agentboolen said:Could not have said it better myself. What I noticed that CoD player who come to BFBC2 have a hard time adjusting to the style of the game as it's so much different. The BFBC2 design completely negates the CoD design philosophy which in turn makes them to either say that the game SUXS or they just end up playing Team DM. "Other than the particular setting in the Vietnam add on Battlfield has done a lot of stuff prior to COD, (included the original bf vietnam back in 2004) .. COD is acutally a clon of CS which came back in 98, COD used to be a no one cares WW2 shooter after BF2 success they went "modern" with COD4.. perhaps you should know about FPS before posting dumb shit in the internet. Anyway COD and Battlefield are two diferent animals, I don't understand why people keep comparing them, other than they "Modern Warfare" shooters, gameplay, design, and general tone are really diferent. "" Aren't they getting tired of copying COD, I mean really COD does modern warfare, BF has to do it, now COD does Vietnam and now BF wants to do it. Can't they come up with there own freakin ideas so we can have 2 different types of games!!! "
You may be right in a way, but Infinity Ward still did a great job with CoD4 and did inject some interesting ideas of their own as well as tinkering with preexisting ones. You could say that about a lot of games, certainly nowadays. BF was not the first FPS and Call of Duty's shooting and flow Vs Battle field's is extremely different." @agentboolen said:
I think you got it backwards. BF had almost all of COD's big ideas first. COD4 wouldn't have been what it was if BF2 hadn't paved the way. It seems EA is photocopying an already photocopied idea they had to begin with. "" Aren't they getting tired of copying COD, I mean really COD does modern warfare, BF has to do it, now COD does Vietnam and now BF wants to do it. Can't they come up with there own freakin ideas so we can have 2 different types of games!!! "
Besides, didn't BF already do Vietnam once? How did it all become EA and Battlefield are going after Call of Duty through theme? They really should be looking at ways of expanding their game play instead of their visual representation. To me, from the way CoD looks like it is going with its continuous sequel after sequel , EA should have more than a ample opportunity for create something fresh and original. Then again, it does all come down to the dollars and units your selling.
Still, After playing Black ops and realizing that I need more than just the same old thing over and over again, I am certainly willing to give Battlefield another try and am more interested in what Battlefield will bring in the next few years than the CoD franchise.
I hope not. BFBC2 tends to have more team oriented players, where COD has a lot more selfish bitch ass kids.
EA needs to stop saying stuff like this. They did the same thing with BFBC2 and it just comes off as some younger brother trying to live an older brothers life, but just not as good.
(note that when I say not as good I mean sales wise, I play both games but prefer battlefield.)
Well I own BLOPS and enjoy it and will get the Vietnam-expansion. It is really not saying much. I owned every current-generation console game of both series. I kind of enjoy Battlefield more, because I like more "real" objective based gameplay. Strangely CoD got the better carrot on a stick with all the prestiges and challenges. (I do not have a clan or anything.)
I find it odd, that so many poeple do not know history, or the chronological order of things.
First off, Call of Duty/Medal of honor are single player games with a Multi-player element. They are not a team-based, or strategy based mulitplyer games. Basically Arcade.
Battlefield 1942 (2002)
Battlefield Vietnam (2004)
Battlfield 2 (2005)
Battlfield 2142 (2006)
Those^ are orginal DICE games, which are all Team based Multi-player (64 player) combat games, with physics and balistics.
Then came the FPS craze on the consol market ... which was stagnated from Golden Eye & Other side-by-side (split screen) shooters and endless raping of Teenagers w/ humorious releases of all the Medal Of Honor arcade games..! Which led to the Call of Duty franchise & the Consol FPS craze. They are not real combat games and it is sad that most here don't understand the difference in ARCADE Game, verses ones that are based on real world physics and are a Combat simulator.
Secondly, DICE is not coping Black Ops... lol They are re-releasing BF Vietnam under the new Frostbite engine, so that people (kids) within the consol market, can get introduced (get use to) team-based strategy on a large scale. Even though the PC version only has 32 players and the Consol Market even less... it is still a nice solution/mix before BF 3 comes out. Which will be 50 vs 50... and utilize everything DICE has learned over the past 9 years of making PC games.
Not sure if some of u even know, but many of the maps in BF vietnam were generated using USGA topigraphical maps are exactly like they are found in real life. Battlefield Bad Company was DICE foray, intro into consol market to teach the wipersnappers about real FPS games... and to show IW how it's done. BC2 was to show the new physic engine and how their games are not arcade, but real maps. BF3 will push this farther.
It is just sad that some people here, don't understand that BC2: Vietnam was what many oldschool'ers were asking for... right down to the radio knob that made getting high and playing BF Vietnam (with a bunch of buddies), so fun 6 years ago.
Black Ops was a marketing gimmick... JEEP Comercials? Can u even get in, and/or fly a helicopter, Scooter, tank, jet, etc... or anything in an InfinityWard game? Wake up!
While during my sixth prestige on Modern Shitstain 2 I saw Bad Company 2 at my local video store,
after seeing the war between them on the internet I decided to give it a try, I was hooked during my first game.
The main difference I notice is that in COD the multiplayer is suppose to test how YOU play, I have been in many search games where one guy kills everyone on the enemy team and I just sit there hoping I get to actually shoot someone or plant a bomb. While in Battlefield it actually feels like a (you know it) battlefield. You have mortars falling, helicopters flying over you, tanks destroying building, rockets flying over your head, and soldiers running into the enemy fighting till their last breath.
So
I used to be a big COD fan and thought BF looked clunky and boring. After getting it last week and playing it, it is probaly the second best online game Ive ever played next to Starcraft. The COD series is just ridicously boring now in my opinion. Too many gimmicks and rewarding bad play. In this game it feels like anytime you help your team your actually making a differance and get rewards for it. Also seems like the best team always wins and not some gimmicky shit like in COD.
Anyway is Vietnam worth picking up? Hows it differant from the normal multiplayer?
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