no game of the year for bc2

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#2 Posted by Meteora (5787 posts) -

As I recall, Jeff says that he wasn't too fond of the game and the campaign. He's more into COD shooter than BF and the change of direction in campaign was off putting.

#3 Posted by KaosAngel (13765 posts) -

BC2 is no where near the best looking game.  :|

#4 Posted by Jeffsekai (7042 posts) -

I don't think it should win any of the awards when compared to everything else. 
 
But not even a mention is fucking lame.

#5 Posted by atombrain (47 posts) -

Probably because it's not the best and the single player is not great. Personally I like the multiplayer but found the lack of team balancing and slow class progression to be subpar when compared to other games of it's type that just do it better.

#6 Posted by Baal_Sagoth (1273 posts) -

That kinda surprised me too. I don't think it is an issue at all because these are very personal choices and therefore wen can't "demand" games being on GB's lists. For me BC2 certainly should be at least considered  for best looking game, best game and best multiplayer but the thing that truly stands out is the online experience and none of the GB staff got into that beyond what Jeff played for review, so I'm really not surprised it wasn't part of the deliberation process. The game sure as hell is my game of the year, so I'll be excited to see if it makes it into the communtiy nominations. Also it got mentioned in written lists already, so it isn't like they completely ignored it.

#7 Posted by warxsnake (2650 posts) -

I feel sorry for DICE nobody seems to like them and their great multiplayer game.

#8 Posted by Skald (4369 posts) -

It came out in like, March or something, so it's harder for people to recall how good it was when it came out.

#10 Posted by teh_pwnzorer (1482 posts) -

It's on my list.  I hated most of the maps though.  I'm glad they re-introduced BFBC1 maps, eventually.

#11 Posted by wefwefasdf (6729 posts) -

The campaign is pretty terrible and it isn't the best looking. It deserved a mention in best multiplayer though but it really is about their choices.

#12 Posted by mordukai (7157 posts) -
@Tarsier: Well what did you expect. Vinny doesn't really play MP, Brad might be if you can get him out of his Battle.net, Ryan's tried it and frankly from the the TNT session they had with BC2 it seems BC2 is not for him, and Jeff while giving the MP a very glowing review just prefers CoD. BC2 never had a chance of getting anything. 
#13 Posted by mordukai (7157 posts) -
@warxsnake said:
" I feel sorry for DICE nobody seems to like them and their great multiplayer game. "
I think the +6 million copies the game sold should at least offer some condolences. While I think DICE would have loved to get awards for the awesome MP they created I don't think they give a shit about it. BC2 is awesome and Battlefield 3 will be heavenly. Now I think I will get back to Hill 137. 
#14 Posted by Jayross (2365 posts) -

The singleplayer is kind of lame, and none of those guys really got into the multiplayer.

#15 Posted by warxsnake (2650 posts) -
@Mordukai said:
" @warxsnake said:
" I feel sorry for DICE nobody seems to like them and their great multiplayer game. "
I think the +6 million copies the game sold should at least offer some condolences. While I think DICE would have loved to get awards for the awesome MP they created I don't think they give a shit about it. BC2 is awesome and Battlefield 3 will be heavenly. Now I think I will get back to Hill 137.  "
Then what's the point for any award; all the major winners are usually the ones who sold millions of copies.
#16 Posted by ShiftyMagician (2131 posts) -

Man I must be in the minority here, but I got this game from the Steam sales and thought it was pretty good, and a lot more enjoyable then the current Call of Duty offerings personally.  I didn't find it too hard to level up so long as you have good reflexes and continually help out those around you.
 
Also I really enjoyed the sound work they did for that game in both the single and multi-player modes.  I don't often hear a collection of sounds when played together give off that large war feeling at times.  Finally, knowing that there is less of a tendancy to see knife ninjas in Battlefield automatically make me prefer the type of multi-player DICE makes.  
 
No surprise more people go for something more accessible with faster rewards though.  At least you are gauranteed a large player-base to play with in a series like that and that familiarity with how the guns feel since Call of Duty 4.  However more people should give Bad Company 2 a go if they haven't tried it yet.

#17 Edited by PhatSeeJay (3322 posts) -

While singleplayer was pretty much garbage compare to the first game and the fact that I would probably not even be playing it if it was a console exclusive like the first installment.
 
But since they made a lot of good things for the PC version, I was definitely enjoying Bad Company 2 a lot more than both MW2 and Black Ops. 
 
BUT.. I will throw this puppy in the bin the second I get my hands on Battlefield 3.. which is why it's not really a winner for me on any category.  It's just a good substitute while I wait for the main event.
 
(I would give Best Sound to Bad Company 2 though. The sound effects are fucking fantastic)

#18 Posted by Sargus (731 posts) -

You're right that it should have at least been discussed for best multiplayer, but those other ones? ...no. Not at all. It's a great game, but not the best looking and most certainly not the game of the year.

#19 Posted by TheSmashing (313 posts) -

 The sound design in the game is outstanding. 

#20 Posted by FrankCanada97 (4039 posts) -

No Best Explosion(s) category?

#21 Posted by TSchonbeck (127 posts) -

I was a bit disappointed that BC2 didn't get a mention but that's the game. Didn't make a big enough impression on the guys.

#22 Posted by 234r2we232 (3181 posts) -

Better games were mentioned less.

#23 Posted by Milkman (17033 posts) -

There's no category that Bad Company 2 could have possibly won.

#24 Edited by mordukai (7157 posts) -
@warxsnake said:

" @Mordukai said:

" @warxsnake said:
" I feel sorry for DICE nobody seems to like them and their great multiplayer game. "
I think the +6 million copies the game sold should at least offer some condolences. While I think DICE would have loved to get awards for the awesome MP they created I don't think they give a shit about it. BC2 is awesome and Battlefield 3 will be heavenly. Now I think I will get back to Hill 137.  "
Then what's the point for any award; all the major winners are usually the ones who sold millions of copies. "
Not necessarily. The video game industry doesn't have one unified award show (NO! the VGA don't count) like the movie industry so most game awards boil down to what the ones that are giving away the award likes. Selling millions of copies doesn't automatically gives you an award. Any award is basically a popularity contest. For example, if it was up to Jeff then RDR would have gotten no awards even though many gamers and reviewers liked it.
#25 Posted by blackbird415 (777 posts) -
@SmashingTimes said:
"  The sound design in the game is outstanding.  "
It was the same for the original. Its the echoing sound from inside when the gun pops and the muffled explosions from a distance is just amazing
#26 Posted by Binman88 (3689 posts) -
@Mordukai: Yep. I'd also suggest that awards and reviews (for any form of media, really) are largely unimportant and irrelevant. They're very specific and opinion based, and therefore can't properly reflect the comparative quality of one game to the next. Awards are usually given to the best of something, which is not a clear and easy thing to do when subjective opinions are involved.
#27 Posted by iSylence (345 posts) -

I have it as number 7 on my list. :)

#28 Posted by carlthenimrod (1596 posts) -

The multi-player is great.and my favorite of the year, but the single-player was a tremendous step backwards from the original Bad Company. It doesn't deserve GOTY because of that.

#29 Posted by AhmadMetallic (18954 posts) -
@SmashingTimes said:
"  The sound design in the game is outstanding.  "
yup  

 
@FrankCanada97 said:
" No Best Explosion(s) category? "
FUCK YES
#30 Posted by Twitchey (865 posts) -
@ShiftyMagician: I feel the gun play in COD since COD4 was the same until Black Ops. The first time I shoot the M16 in that game it felt different. I feel like it has improved though.
#31 Posted by Infininja (881 posts) -

Regarding the sound in BC2: 
 
I recently got FEAR during the Steam sales. Uhhhhh, BC2 has spoiled me in a major way. Every gun in FEAR sounds muffled and weak, except for the pistols and maybe the shotgun.

#32 Posted by EpicSteve (6494 posts) -

BC2 seems to be one of those games that has a weird divide between the gaming press and us. No one on the press side seemed to give a damn. My friends list has always had at least two people playing all year. I also found myself enjoying it a lot.

#33 Posted by withateethuh (726 posts) -

Bad Company 2 has done the most innovation to the shooter genre than any other games in the past few years by far.

#34 Posted by ToxicFruit (1717 posts) -

My multiplayer game of the year 

#35 Posted by Riddell (342 posts) -
@SmashingTimes said:
"  The sound design in the game is outstanding.  "
I agree. DICE games always sound amazing.
#36 Edited by Wuddel (2098 posts) -

Single Player was meh. 
 
BC2 also was not very innovative compared to BC1. More of the same (awesome) stuff. This is a major point.
 
The MP lacks stuff which is nowadays very important, like a "movie mode" or a "create your own game/gametype" function. Halo:Reach excels in this. Blops also added some basic functionality. Bet this will show up in BF3. I peronally consider the lack of gametypes a plus. It keeps the playerbased focused, and helps map design. 
 
Jeff and Brad are most into the FPS stuff and they prefer Halo I guess. Still surpised it did not show up in the lower ranks of the staff top 10. 
 
Vietnam was not taken in consideration I guess. Could be a contender for best DLC maybe.

#37 Posted by Tru3_Blu3 (3222 posts) -

BFBC2 is superior compared to CoD. Giantbomb just doesn't like challenge in their multiplayer games.

#38 Edited by Mikemcn (6997 posts) -

The singleplayer is one of the worst single player experiences Ive ever had.  Maybe best multiplayer though, but no GOTY.

#39 Posted by big_jon (5743 posts) -

It was an amazing game.
#40 Posted by swamplord666 (1762 posts) -

yeah, I don't expect them to get many awards but no mention is pretty terrible. It's got a really good multiplayer.

#41 Edited by heatDrive88 (2363 posts) -

I recall them mentioning it just once in one of the deliberation podcasts. I don't remember which one it was, but I do very much remember Jeff giving mention to it after I believe Vinny brought it up. If I recalled correctly, Jeff literally reiterated the common point that "the singleplayer was awful, but the multiplayer is great".
 
It didn't go any further than that, and I also wish it would have spurred a little more discussion when they were talking about the Best Multiplayer category. To be fair though, it doesn't really matter too much in the end, because when you weigh it against the 3 finalists they selected, I think they still got it relatively right, even though I highly enjoyed and sunk terrible amounts of hours into BC2's multiplayer this year as well.

#42 Posted by Infininja (881 posts) -
@heatDrive88 said:
" I recall them mentioning it just once in one of the deliberation podcasts. I don't remember which one it was, but I do very much remember Jeff giving mention to it after I believe Vinny brought it up. If I recalled correctly, Jeff literally reiterated the common point that "the singleplayer was awful, but the multiplayer is great".  It didn't go any further than that, and I also wish it would have spurred a little more discussion when they were talking about the Best Multiplayer category. To be fair though, it doesn't really matter too much in the end, because when you weigh it against the 3 finalists they selected, I think they still got it relatively right, even though I highly enjoyed and sunk terrible amounts of hours into BC2's multiplayer this year as well. "
Unfortunately, I believe that was brought up during the most disappointing category discussion.
#43 Posted by gungrave45 (124 posts) -

it should have won worst single player campaign.

#44 Posted by Noodles (539 posts) -
@warxsnake said:
" @Mordukai said:
" @warxsnake said:
" I feel sorry for DICE nobody seems to like them and their great multiplayer game. "
I think the +6 million copies the game sold should at least offer some condolences. While I think DICE would have loved to get awards for the awesome MP they created I don't think they give a shit about it. BC2 is awesome and Battlefield 3 will be heavenly. Now I think I will get back to Hill 137.  "
Then what's the point for any award; all the major winners are usually the ones who sold millions of copies. "
Clicks.
#45 Posted by 9mmStudios (50 posts) -
#46 Posted by Warihay (483 posts) -

The single player sucked and none of them were interested in the multiplayer. I love it and am totally back into it now post Vietnam. It's not a big deal though that they didn't mention it. It wouldn't win any of those categories you mentioned either for me and I love it.

#47 Posted by l4wd0g (1987 posts) -

Bad Company 2 is a shame. The games not perfect, but it is dang good. There were some serious balancing issues in multiplayer (read attack helicopter) that were disappointing.
 
 I love the Vietnam addon. I think it's better than Minerva's Den or Lair of the Shadow Broker. It sure provided a heck of a lot of content for $15.  

#48 Posted by drcocktopus (60 posts) -

No way it should ever get best looking game but best multiplayer...it could have been a consideration

#49 Posted by Th3dz (332 posts) -

Best Audio damnit!

#50 Posted by Vitor (2823 posts) -
@KaosAngel said:
" BC2 is no where near the best looking game.  :| "
This.  
 
But it deserves props for it's multiplayer mode at least - even if it hasn't really evolved much since BF2. Still, the destructible environments do make it feel unlike anything else out there and I lost countless hours to it on release.

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