Pachter Says He Will Buy A Wii U Just To Play Bayonetta 2

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#1 Edited by Wong_Fei_Hung (642 posts) -

UPDATE:

The Pach has spoken, again...

“I’m not a fan of the console. Essentially I look at the GamePad and the television, the two screens, and I see a DS that’s disaggregated. It’s very similar to playing a DS game. The difference is, with the DS your line of sight is on both screens. It’s easy to toggle back and forth. With the GamePad on the Wii U you have to look back and forth, and that’s not natural.
“I understand the console is going to be way more powerful than the DS. It’s entirely possible you’ll get great experiences that are console-like but take advantage of the touch screen. But I think most developers look at the GamePad as either a gimmick or very DS like, and they don’t want to incorporate the touchscreen features because the games aren’t any better for them.”
“Nintendo will pioneer, they’ll do a far better job than anybody of exploiting the console and the control scheme, and I think others will learn from them,” he added. “I’m afraid we’re going to have a repeat of the Wii cycle from the publishers’ perspective and the developers’ perspective, where very few people will support it. Then if it’s successful they’ll come in, and they’ll fail. When they fail, they’ll go away again. The reason I think they’ll fail is, I can’t think of a third-party publisher that did well on the DS. I mean, Scribblenauts, so there are a handful games and you can count them. Nobody did very well on the DS, and I don’t think anybody’s going to do very well on the Wii U.”

He should read my gameplay impressions of The Wonderful 101, they starkly conflict with his lame view...

Haha, this guy never fails to crack me up, his Pach Attack shit is one of my guilty pleasures...

Speaking in the latest episode of Pach Attack, he said the following...

"I’m gonna buy a Wii U just to play Bayonetta 2. I like Nintendo first party content, but I love Bayonetta”

He goes onto predict 1m Wii U's will be bought on the back of Bayonetta 2 alone. Bayonetta sold 1.35 million units worldwide according to Wikipedia. Not bad given it's dire PS3 version, which PlatinumGames have called "our biggest failure".

Link: http://mynintendonews.com/2012/09/29/pachter-says-he-will-buy-a-wii-u-just-to-play-bayonetta-2/

Further Reading:

Investigating The Words of Micheal Pachter by Patrick Klepek

http://www.giantbomb.com/news/investigating-the-words-of-michael-pachter/3566/

#2 Posted by FluxWaveZ (19308 posts) -

So... what?

#3 Posted by Napalm (9020 posts) -

And...?

#4 Posted by Snail (8580 posts) -

He still exists does he?

#5 Posted by Animasta (14648 posts) -

but.. I thought Pachter had a wife?

#6 Posted by EVO (3864 posts) -

Slow news day.

#7 Posted by ripelivejam (3551 posts) -

so that's like, what, another ten thousand sales?

(i keed i keed)

#8 Posted by Itwastuesday (934 posts) -

but what will he read on the bus

#9 Posted by evanbower (1210 posts) -

Did this really happen!? What!? Did the original Bayonetta even sell one million copies? I'm being had here.

#10 Posted by evanbower (1210 posts) -

@Wong_Fei_Hung said:

@evanbower said:

Did this really happen!? What!? Did the original Bayonetta even sell one million copies? I'm being had here.

Bayonetta sold 1.35 million units worldwide aording to Wikipedia. Not bad given it's dire shit, crap/ fucked up, PS3 version :)

No way, that's great. And makes it even stranger that Sega wouldn't support a sequel for a million seller.. hmm. Anyway, I was already going to get a Wii U, but I'm really looking forward to Bayonetta 2's release. Also, Nintendo kicking off their new console by resurrecting a niche game with a devoted fan base is the kind of feel good story I can really get into.

#11 Posted by StarvingGamer (8016 posts) -

He may be right. I was going to wait a few year for a Wii U but since the Bayonetta 2 announcement I've decided to pick one up ASAP.

#12 Posted by evanbower (1210 posts) -

But wait.. Pachter can't really believe that 75% of the people who bought the original Bayonetta will buy a whole new console for the sequel. Sometimes his predictions are so bizarre I'm certain that he is messing with us.

In other fun Pachter news though, I was listening to an old podcast today on which he predicted Rockstar would release a special edition of GTA IV for $100 two weeks prior to the proper release, which fans would have to spend the extra money on if they wanted to play the game early. Good stuff.

#13 Posted by Wong_Fei_Hung (642 posts) -

@evanbower:

They kinda fucked up a bit though, in Japan at least, where most own a PS3 rather than a X360.

I read on GoNintendo that there's a FB page for Nintendo fans to show support for the game, you should join. Apparently Hideki Kamiya himself has endorsed it!.

#14 Posted by egg (1450 posts) -

How is this even topic worthy much less news worthy? I know he's an analyst but what games he likes / what system he purchases is largely irrelevant. And it's not as if many people aren't excited for Bayonetta 2 so it's not exactly a controversial opinion. :i

#15 Posted by avidwriter (667 posts) -

Can you imagine playing that game with that huge ass weird controller? Yea I'm sure 95% of the fans of the game can't either.

#16 Edited by evanbower (1210 posts) -

@Wong_Fei_Hung: So, this may be a stupid question, but is GoNintendo a decent place to go for Nintendo related news? Because.. I wan't that, and the only site I've really attempted to like in that area is Nintendo World Report, but they're so far down the Nintendo hole that they kind of seemed out of touch (articles worrying about adapting to dual analog controls).

#17 Posted by BabyChooChoo (4289 posts) -

So the game that supposedly didn't sell well when it was on 2 platforms last time will be a huge system seller this time when it's released solely on one brand new console? Huh?

#18 Posted by Wong_Fei_Hung (642 posts) -

@evanbower said:

@Wong_Fei_Hung: So, this may be a stupid question, but is GoNintendo a decent place to go for Nintendo related news? Because.. I wan't that, and the only site I've really attempted to like in that area is Nintendo World Report, but they're so far down the Nintendo whole that they kind of seemed out of touch (articles worrying about adapting to dual analog controls).

I think It's one of the better one's, they don't appear to feel the need to put positive spin on stories during low spells. The guy who runs it, "Raw Meat Cowboy", seems like a really cool guy (amazing beard too!). He's not one of these fans that have the ability to scare when he's disgruntled by something, when he expresses his opinion they always seem rational and fair.

I'd say the best thing to do is to add a range of these sites on fb, and keep track of your home feed there.

#19 Posted by JasonR86 (9609 posts) -

Neat.

#20 Edited by Wong_Fei_Hung (642 posts) -

@avidwriter said:

Can you imagine playing that game with that huge ass weird controller? Yea I'm sure 95% of the fans of the game can't either.

I'm trying my best to after reading this. I'm expecting megatons of awesome :)

“Because of the Wii U GamePad, we are putting extra thought into how to use these differentiating features. There’s a difference in the game design side, but we are enjoying the challenges of creating games for new hardware.”
- Atsushi Inaba
#21 Posted by Hailinel (23915 posts) -

@avidwriter said:

Can you imagine playing that game with that huge ass weird controller? Yea I'm sure 95% of the fans of the game can't either.

Sure I can. I've played game demos with it and it works fine, isn't that heavy, and to be honest, the size isn't that much of a factor.

#22 Posted by Wong_Fei_Hung (642 posts) -

@Hailinel said:

@avidwriter said:

Can you imagine playing that game with that huge ass weird controller? Yea I'm sure 95% of the fans of the game can't either.

Sure I can. I've played game demos with it and it works fine, isn't that heavy, and to be honest, the size isn't that much of a factor.

Many seem to be making the assumption that because of size alone, it's uncomfortable, but from my own first-hand experience, nothing could be further from the truth, it's ergonomics are entirely awesome!.

Besides, if their control scheme in The wonderful 101 is anything to go by, it will be fantastic. I expect the GamePad will be used in all manner of torture scenarios and executions, Nintendo will be good at providing that kind of help. I reckon you'll be able to deflect incoming projectiles in first person, initiate, charge or store combos, ride vehicles in FP, etc etc.

#23 Posted by SpartanHoplite (384 posts) -

since GT changed i havent visited the site nor seen Pach Attack, good show. But i believe the sales may go up only by couple hundred thousand, nothing too substantial.

#24 Posted by AsperGamer (161 posts) -

I never liked Pachter. I don't read his stuff and I don't care for his thoughts. My observation is that he is wrong more often than right. I don't even know why we give him oxygen, but here I am doing it.

What does strike me though how so many react to him. If people agree with him, they defend his right to an opinion. If they don't agree with him. then what he says it not worth a story. They are often the same person.

If it sells, great. If it doesn't, so what. If it sells, it won't be because of Nintendo. If it doesn't sell, it will be because of Nintendo.

#25 Posted by cutyoface (541 posts) -

Why did you make this thread?

#26 Posted by Baillie (4039 posts) -

@cutyoface said:

Why did you make this thread?

Dexter's on tonight man! DEXTER IS ON TONIGHT MAN.

#27 Posted by Wong_Fei_Hung (642 posts) -
#28 Posted by Fredchuckdave (5339 posts) -

@evanbower said:

No way, that's great. And makes it even stranger that Sega wouldn't support a sequel for a million seller.. hmm. Anyway, I was already going to get a Wii U, but I'm really looking forward to Bayonetta 2's release. Also, Nintendo kicking off their new console by resurrecting a niche game with a devoted fan base is the kind of feel good story I can really get into.

Bayonetta is an extremely high budget game much like El Shaddai or Vanquish, so anything short of insane sales isn't going to look great.

#29 Posted by Colourful_Hippie (4330 posts) -

Wii U success confirmed!

#30 Posted by ProfessorEss (7281 posts) -

It'd be funny if he didn't just so he could say "Hey I can't get em all right".

#31 Posted by pyromagnestir (4247 posts) -

Wait a tick, I thought Pachter was an analyst who didn't play games, and that's why people hated him? Because he says stuff about the video game industry but doesn't care about the actual games, or something along those lines.

#32 Posted by ArbitraryWater (11478 posts) -

I predict that people other than Michael Pachter will buy a Wii-U just because of Bayonetta 2 as well. Now where's my paycheck from Wedbush Securities?

#33 Posted by SmilingPig (1337 posts) -

I'm not sure that I want to play Nintendo's vision of Bayonetta.

I hope that they don't sensor the shit out of the game.

#34 Posted by Wong_Fei_Hung (642 posts) -

@SmilingPig said:

I'm not sure that I want to play Nintendo's vision of Bayonetta.

I hope that they don't sensor the shit out of the game.

Yea, that would be a good way of putting off core gamers. I don't think PG would have gotten into the deal if things weren't cleared beforehand. It's also worth noting this won't be the first mature title Nintendo have published.

#35 Posted by Hailinel (23915 posts) -

@Wong_Fei_Hung said:

@SmilingPig said:

I'm not sure that I want to play Nintendo's vision of Bayonetta.

I hope that they don't sensor the shit out of the game.

Yea, that would be a good way of putting off core gamers. I don't think PG would have gotten into the deal if things weren't cleared beforehand. It's also worth noting this won't be the first mature title Nintendo have published.

Heck, they're publishing the bloodier, more graphic version of Ninja Gaiden 3.

#36 Posted by AngelN7 (2970 posts) -

I'm gonna call bullshit on that (not what Pachter in particular is saying) but from all the outrage you would think Bayonetta was a smash hit but it wasn't if you tell me Fallout 4 is gonna be a Wii U exclusive I can buy your "that game alone will drive 1m people buying a Wii U just to play that".

#37 Posted by thedj93 (1237 posts) -

1 million consoles? LOL i guess it could happen but that's a perty dubious claim

#38 Posted by laussica (181 posts) -

I know that he is wrong a lot of the time but he is a side of the industry that we don't really get to see. Also he does play video games just a bit more causally, some of his pack attack episodes are really informative when people ask about the business side of things

#39 Posted by coaxmetal (1579 posts) -

If I buy a wii u, it will also be just to play bayonetta 2

#40 Posted by Rafaelfc (1315 posts) -

Bayonetta 2 is a great start to convince me to buy a wii u... but it NEEDS. MORE. GAMES!

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#41 Posted by Krakn3Dfx (2485 posts) -

I still question whether or not Micheal Pachter actually plays any videogames. I think he found a niche audience with his ranting, makes money with it, and so he tries to play the part, but I'm not sure he's really a gamer.

#42 Posted by connerthekewlkid (1803 posts) -

@Krakn3Dfx: us gamers huh?

#43 Posted by TooWalrus (13137 posts) -
@FluxWaveZ said:

So... what?

The internet likes to hate Pachter. 
 
Hey, guess what @Wong_Fei_Hung: I'm going to buy a Wii U (mostly) just for Bayonetta, too.
#44 Posted by Nentisys (886 posts) -

I fucking love Bayonetta. I think it is in the top 5 games this gen. But I won't buy a Wii U just for Bayo 2.

#45 Posted by FluxWaveZ (19308 posts) -

@TooWalrus: I don't hate Michael Pachter, I just didn't see why this would be very relevant. I am also going to buy a Wii U mainly for Bayonetta 2.

#46 Posted by laserbolts (5311 posts) -

Damn it seems alot of people think very highly of Bayonetta. It's almost as crazy as the type of praise Dark Souls gets. I need to check it out and see what the big deal is.

#47 Posted by Jack268 (3387 posts) -

Patchter plays video games?

#48 Posted by That1BlackGuy (217 posts) -

Well, to be honest I'm" buying a Wii U down the line for it as well though not as soon as it launches, it depends on the U's lineup of games by that point and whether or not we get a bundle. Hell, I still play the original one of my favorite games this gen.

#49 Posted by Ravenlight (8040 posts) -

Michael Pachter? More like Guy I Don't Agree With. AMIRITE?

#50 Posted by Morningstar (2142 posts) -

I might do the same.

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