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Posted by HisDudeness (252 posts) -

(Sorry for the bad English). This always seemed like a must for me, but the fact that I owned a PS3 and the port always received poor reviews prevented me from buying it, because as a fan of Devil May Cry, I knew that a bad framerate really could ruin the experience for this kind of game. So when I finally set up my new shiny and slim Xbox 360, I started thinking of what game I could get that I previously couldn't play, and this one immediately popped into my mind. And I must say... it is mindblowing. I thought I would probably liked it, but nowhere near this. In fact, I could say it's probably my favorite action game for this entire generation. Doing the Climax on that final boss with that ''Fly Me To The Moon'' remix is absolutely unforgettable. The combo combat system is so fine tuned it hurts, and the amount of crazyness in the game fits the tone of the game just perfectly.

Such a bummer that Bayonetta 2 is being released as a Wii U exclusive, but it's better than no sequel at all... the industry really needs more games of this kind. A masterpiece.

#1 Posted by HisDudeness (252 posts) -

(Sorry for the bad English). This always seemed like a must for me, but the fact that I owned a PS3 and the port always received poor reviews prevented me from buying it, because as a fan of Devil May Cry, I knew that a bad framerate really could ruin the experience for this kind of game. So when I finally set up my new shiny and slim Xbox 360, I started thinking of what game I could get that I previously couldn't play, and this one immediately popped into my mind. And I must say... it is mindblowing. I thought I would probably liked it, but nowhere near this. In fact, I could say it's probably my favorite action game for this entire generation. Doing the Climax on that final boss with that ''Fly Me To The Moon'' remix is absolutely unforgettable. The combo combat system is so fine tuned it hurts, and the amount of crazyness in the game fits the tone of the game just perfectly.

Such a bummer that Bayonetta 2 is being released as a Wii U exclusive, but it's better than no sequel at all... the industry really needs more games of this kind. A masterpiece.

#2 Posted by TooWalrus (13203 posts) -

Without sarcasm, irony or any of that shit, Bayonetta is one of my favorite games. Ever. God damn that ending is fantastic.

#3 Edited by Canteu (2821 posts) -

@HisDudeness: Your English is excellent, do not fret.

Yes it's a bummer that Bayonetta 2 is not going to be played by anyone who loved Bayonetta.

Perhaps both a blessing and a curse? For it would not exist without this curse.

I'm 1 achievement away from an S rank, and it makes me feel like a bad person. Might have to repurchase.

edit: odd, that i'm wearing a Big Lebowski t-shirt at this very moment.

#4 Posted by LikeaSsur (1532 posts) -

@Canteu said:

Yes it's a bummer that Bayonetta 2 is not going to be played by anyone who loved Bayonetta.

Speak for yourself.

#5 Posted by TooWalrus (13203 posts) -

@LikeaSsur said:

@Canteu said:

Yes it's a bummer that Bayonetta 2 is not going to be played by anyone who loved Bayonetta.

Speak for yourself.

I... will probably buy a WiiU for Bayonetta 2. I can honestly say that I can't think of a single other reason to buy one- at the moment, anyway.

#6 Posted by Vonocourt (2130 posts) -

@Canteu said:

Yes it's a bummer that Bayonetta 2 is not going to be played by anyone who loved Bayonetta.

Uh, wut...

#7 Posted by Spoonman671 (4641 posts) -

I played the PS3 version a few months back and didn't have any problems with it. Apparently they patched it into pretty decent shape.

On the game itself, I didn't really get it, but I kind of liked its style, so I kept it anyway. Still, I think the pacing is pretty terrible.

#8 Edited by Canteu (2821 posts) -

@LikeaSsur: @TooWalrus: Alright, you guys are nutties! I work minimum wage, and the only reason i would consider buying a Wii-U would be for bayonetta 2. So maybe i'm crazy like you both are!

@Vonocourt: Only crazy people own a Wii-U!

#9 Posted by PandaBear (1373 posts) -

@HisDudeness said:

(Sorry for the bad English). This always seemed like a must for me, but the fact that I owned a PS3 and the port always received poor reviews prevented me from buying it, because as a fan of Devil May Cry, I knew that a bad framerate really could ruin the experience for this kind of game. So when I finally set up my new shiny and slim Xbox 360, I started thinking of what game I could get that I previously couldn't play, and this one immediately popped into my mind. And I must say... it is mindblowing. I thought I would probably liked it, but nowhere near this. In fact, I could say it's probably my favorite action game for this entire generation. Doing the Climax on that final boss with that ''Fly Me To The Moon'' remix is absolutely unforgettable. The combo combat system is so fine tuned it hurts, and the amount of crazyness in the game fits the tone of the game just perfectly.

Such a bummer that Bayonetta 2 is being released as a Wii U exclusive, but it's better than no sequel at all... the industry really needs more games of this kind. A masterpiece.

Your English is better than 99% of the the people online who claim to speak it as a first language. And Bayonetta is right up there as the best game of this generation. It sucks the sequel is a Wii U exclusive, but Nintendo saved them game from SEGA ... but Sony or Microsoft really should have picked it up... or better yet, Capcom.

#10 Posted by LikeaSsur (1532 posts) -

@Canteu said:

@LikeaSsur: @TooWalrus: Alright, you guys are nutties! I work minimum wage, and the only reason i would consider buying a Wii-U would be for bayonetta 2. So maybe i'm crazy like you both are!

@Vonocourt: Only crazy people own a Wii-U!

I'm fortunate because I have Bayonetta 2 AND Monster Hunter 3 Ultimate to look forward to! Monster Hunter Tri basically justified my Wii existing, so I expect this will be the same story.

#11 Posted by Canteu (2821 posts) -

@LikeaSsur: Damn son, you cray cray!

#12 Posted by TheManiacsGnome (270 posts) -

@LikeaSsur said:

@Canteu said:

@LikeaSsur: @TooWalrus: Alright, you guys are nutties! I work minimum wage, and the only reason i would consider buying a Wii-U would be for bayonetta 2. So maybe i'm crazy like you both are!

@Vonocourt: Only crazy people own a Wii-U!

I'm fortunate because I have Bayonetta 2 AND Monster Hunter 3 Ultimate to look forward to! Monster Hunter Tri basically justified my Wii existing, so I expect this will be the same story.

I think it's also a bit unfair to completely discount the Wii/Wii U. The Wii had a few interesting games, they just fell through the cracks a little to easily.

#13 Posted by ImmortalSaiyan (4678 posts) -

Bayonetta is fantastic.

#14 Posted by Miketakon (514 posts) -

Bayonetta 2 will end up on a Xbox and a PlayStation.

#15 Posted by HisDudeness (252 posts) -

@Miketakon said:

Bayonetta 2 will end up on a Xbox and a PlayStation.

I would love that to happen... but remember this is a Nintendo exclusive we're talking about, not something like Ninja Gaiden's Microsoft exclusivity.

#16 Posted by JazGalaxy (1576 posts) -

@HisDudeness said:

(Sorry for the bad English). This always seemed like a must for me, but the fact that I owned a PS3 and the port always received poor reviews prevented me from buying it, because as a fan of Devil May Cry, I knew that a bad framerate really could ruin the experience for this kind of game. So when I finally set up my new shiny and slim Xbox 360, I started thinking of what game I could get that I previously couldn't play, and this one immediately popped into my mind. And I must say... it is mindblowing. I thought I would probably liked it, but nowhere near this. In fact, I could say it's probably my favorite action game for this entire generation. Doing the Climax on that final boss with that ''Fly Me To The Moon'' remix is absolutely unforgettable. The combo combat system is so fine tuned it hurts, and the amount of crazyness in the game fits the tone of the game just perfectly.

Such a bummer that Bayonetta 2 is being released as a Wii U exclusive, but it's better than no sequel at all... the industry really needs more games of this kind. A masterpiece.

Wow.

Take your entire scenario and set it up again replacing PS3 for Xbox 360 and you have my exact situation. Only I was so blown away by how terrible the game was, I couldn't finish it. It's honestly the worst game in my PS3 library.

As that one game developer got in trouble for saying, the game is almost entirely gibberish. Characters will randomly intersperse lines that are complete non-sequiters to what was going on just seconds before, and many of their motions and poses are lacking in sense. I tried to stand the story and voice acting for as long as I could and then just resolved to tune it out and just play the action game, except that the game doesn't control well enough to even be fun purely on it's game mechanics. I found myself having problems with the camera and the level design. Pretty much anything that wasn't combat was boring or frustrating.

I think I left off on a part where you're in some strange shangri-la place with waterfalls that you can walk on if you stop time or something? I'm not sure how far that is.

Anyhow, I honestly, for the life of me, don't understand why anyone would like this game. I also think it would interesting to find out how old the fans of this game are. Not to say that people who like it are immature, but I just wonder if it's a generational thing.

#17 Posted by Miketakon (514 posts) -

@HisDudeness: Keep this in mind Resident Evil 4 was Nintendo exclusive at one point.

#18 Posted by Zebracal (74 posts) -

I probably guess the exclusivity is one way to boost console sales. Just like what they did for Mad World and No More Heroes before. Then again in later years the sequels of those games were released into different consoles.

#19 Posted by Pr1mus (3914 posts) -

I was thinking about that game recently and was wondering, did they ever fix the PS3 version?

#20 Posted by Klei (1768 posts) -

Bayonetta was awesome. Except for... it's story cutscenes. They started to get so bad in my nerves that I ended up skipping most of them, even the first time I played through. To this day, I have no clue what the storyline is about. And I beat it nearly 7 times. Yep.

#21 Posted by project343 (2827 posts) -

@Klei said:

Bayonetta was awesome. Except for... it's story cutscenes. They started to get so bad in my nerves that I ended up skipping most of them, even the first time I played through. To this day, I have no clue what the storyline is about. And I beat it nearly 7 times. Yep.

I actually really enjoyed the cutscenes. I think her over-the-top persona is spectacular, I think the nonsensical story is exactly what I want from a game like this, and all the cinematic action is really well animated. It very much treads into the 'it's so bad it's good' territory.

#22 Posted by TheManiacsGnome (270 posts) -

@Miketakon: Completely different, Nintendo wasn't funding development and publishing RE4.

#23 Posted by EXTomar (4738 posts) -

Bayonetta scenes make more sense if you turn off the audio and just watch the visuals.

#24 Edited by Bane122 (789 posts) -

I'm glad you liked it so much. Rarely has a game had me smiling so much when the credits rolled. It's easily one of my favorite games of all time, which has me both excited and a tad worried about the sequel.

I really wish Kamiya was at the helm again but Platinum is a pretty great studio so I have a good bit of faith that at least the gameplay will turn out well, it's the rest of the package I'm nervous about. The first game had a fantastic cast of likable characters and rode a knife's edge between awesome-stupid and just stupid, and it's that balance that I'm nervous the sequel may miss. Bayonetta could very easily have been a pretty sexist game but, they really pulled off the tongue-in-cheek vibe well.

Already got a Wii U so I'm set when 2 comes out.

@Pr1mus: Well, they cut the load times down (through an option to install IIRC) but it still has muddier visuals and a worse framerate than the 360 version. If you've not played it you shouldn't let that stop you. It's still a fantastic game and the PS3 version is by no means broken.

#25 Posted by JJOR64 (18995 posts) -

Bayonetta is an amazing game. Arguably the best in the genre. Really looking forward to Bayonetta 2.

#26 Posted by Gamer_152 (14078 posts) -

I think I liked it more than most people, but damn, that was a fantastic game, I have a great respect to Platinum for creating something of that quality. Like you said, a shame that Bayonetta 2 is tied solely to the Wii U, even if I thought I'd never see a sequel of that game anyway.

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#27 Edited by Gerriam (13 posts) -

@JazGalaxy: Well, I'm 28 and Bayonetta is probably my game of the generation. There just was not a single other game that got me that excited to turn on my Xbox. Probably the only other game this generation that I had such agood time with was Mass Effect 2, but still I think I liked Bayonetta more. One of the main reasons that I got my Wii U was so that I could be able to experience the sequel.

I do think that it is easy to be put off by this game as it is just balls-out crazy. But, I don't know, there was just such a vibe to that game that just made me happy and made me want to continue playing...

So, I'm really sorry to hear that you had such a bad experience playing it.

#28 Posted by ectoplasma (979 posts) -

Bayonetta was my game of the year back then (2010? don't remember). I loved the story as well. I think it's really multi-layered and full of cross cultural reference work.

#29 Posted by Blimble (302 posts) -

Has to be one of my favourite games this generation. Platinum haven't made a bad game yet, I may even buy a WiiU just to play 2

#30 Posted by Happenstance (462 posts) -

I rented Bayonetta when it first came out and remember not liking it at all, cant remember why though. Lately I have been thinking that I probably didnt give it enough of a chance, which happened a lot when I only rented games so Im currently looking for a cheap copy of it to buy again and play through properly.

#31 Posted by TobbRobb (4653 posts) -

Bayonetta is one of the best games of all time.

Yup.

#32 Posted by Make_Me_Mad (3101 posts) -

I am firmly on the side of "Bayonetta is one of the finest games ever made".

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#33 Posted by SpaceInsomniac (3743 posts) -
@Miketakon said:

@HisDudeness: Keep this in mind Resident Evil 4 was Nintendo exclusive at one point.

The problem with this logic is that Nintendo didn't publish Resident Evil 4 after Capcom sold them the rights to the entire franchise, because that's exactly what happened with Bayonetta. 
 
Sega is a company of fools, and Nintendo took advantage of that fact.
#34 Posted by AlexW00d (6275 posts) -

@Pr1mus said:

I was thinking about that game recently and was wondering, did they ever fix the PS3 version?

I played it the day it came out on PS3. It was fine. The internet just did its thing and blew stuff out of proportion.

#35 Posted by UlquioKani (1059 posts) -

Bayo is bitchin'

#36 Posted by Demoskinos (14838 posts) -

I really liked the game but they should really balance the next one a bit better. There were really easy ways to exploit the combo system to ridiculous effect. Again, enjoyable but there were cracks in the combat system.

#37 Posted by Getz (3017 posts) -

Yep, Bayonetta was pretty good. I dunno. what else is there to say?

#38 Posted by Pr1mus (3914 posts) -

@AlexW00d said:

@Pr1mus said:

I was thinking about that game recently and was wondering, did they ever fix the PS3 version?

I played it the day it came out on PS3. It was fine. The internet just did its thing and blew stuff out of proportion.

but but but.. the internet can't lie! And Ryan too in his review!

It's cool though, i was in the process of coming out with good reasons to not buy Metal Gear Rising because i'm broke and will probably get that instead.

#39 Edited by CptBedlam (4451 posts) -

Bayonetta is weird. I do remember snippets that make absolutely no sense, almost as if I had a blackout after getting drunk. I still know that at some point I was driving a motorcycle upside a rocket that was flying into space... and then I must have passed out or or something and eventually everyone was dancing.

#40 Posted by Nottle (1914 posts) -

@CptBedlam said:

Bayonetta is weird. I do remember snippets that make absolutely no sense, almost as if I had a blackout after getting drunk. I still know that at some point I was driving a motorcycle upside a rocket that was flying into space... and then I must have passed out or or something and eventually everyone was dancing.

I've played Bayonetta about 7 times and I'm still pretty confused. Especially story stuff. At somepoint I realized Cereza was Bayonetta and that the person you played as during the flashback stuff was Bayonetta's mom (I think.) But Jeanne was still the same age.

That said one of the best games this gen. Perfect in terms of gameplay.

#41 Edited by CptBedlam (4451 posts) -

@Nottle said:

@CptBedlam said:

Bayonetta is weird. I do remember snippets that make absolutely no sense, almost as if I had a blackout after getting drunk. I still know that at some point I was driving a motorcycle upside a rocket that was flying into space... and then I must have passed out or or something and eventually everyone was dancing.

I've played Bayonetta about 7 times and I'm still pretty confused. Especially story stuff. At somepoint I realized Cereza was Bayonetta and that the person you played as during the flashback stuff was Bayonetta's mom (I think.) But Jeanne was still the same age.

That said one of the best games this gen. Perfect in terms of gameplay.

Wat o_O

Maybe I should play that game a second time.

edit: okay, it's coming back. My memories are still hazy but some of it sounds familiar. Man, what a trip that game was - in a good way. I kinda like the feeling of being mentally exhausted from all that crazy stuff in the game.

#42 Posted by LiquidPrince (15950 posts) -

I think I'm turning around a bit on it. Upon release I despised it mostly for it's shitty cutscenes. DMC was always known for bookending chapters with mind blowing cutscenes, so the film roll style thing from Bayonetta really pissed me off.

#43 Posted by TooWalrus (13203 posts) -

@LiquidPrince said:

I think I'm turning around a bit on it. Upon release I despised it mostly for it's shitty cutscenes. DMC was always known for bookending chapters with mind blowing cutscenes, so the film roll style thing from Bayonetta really pissed me off.

Just finish that game and report back. It's not very long. Trust me.

#44 Posted by LiquidPrince (15950 posts) -

@TooWalrus said:

@LiquidPrince said:

I think I'm turning around a bit on it. Upon release I despised it mostly for it's shitty cutscenes. DMC was always known for bookending chapters with mind blowing cutscenes, so the film roll style thing from Bayonetta really pissed me off.

Just finish that game and report back. It's not very long. Trust me.

I beat the game years ago. Like the day it was released. I just really hated it. I rebought it recently again though to give it another try, and it's still ridiculous. But god damn do those cutscenes still reek of running out of budget.

#45 Posted by PixelPrinny (1030 posts) -

@TooWalrus said:

Without sarcasm, irony or any of that shit, Bayonetta is one of my favorite games. Ever. God damn that ending is fantastic.

I second this sentiment. Such a fantastic game and I was especially surprised by how much I enjoyed it due to the fact it's not in my usual wheelhouse (that being rpgs and fighting games, mainly). I was not a fan of God of War and I was fairly neutral about the original Devil May Cry, so I wasn't going into Bayonetta expecting to have it ending up on my all-time favorites list. Just goes to show that it never hurts to give games in genres you're not familiar with or particularly fond of a chance.

#46 Posted by golguin (3930 posts) -

Bayonetta was my GOTY the year it came out (2010 I think). The combat was a fresh take on the DMC formula and I played the hell out of it. I originally used gamefly to rent it, but after playing it for an hour I bought it outright and gamefly sent the cover and everything. I went on to 1000/1000 the game and I didn't do that for DMC4.

#47 Posted by Miketakon (514 posts) -

@SpaceInsomniac If Sega sold the rights they wouldn't be supervising Bayonetta 2.

#48 Posted by Lazyaza (2184 posts) -

I can only assume Bayonetta 2 will eventually make its way to PS4 and 720. Exclusive deals don't last forever more often than not and I'm sure it being released on other platforms is merely a matter of time and money.

Least that's what I hope, gosh is the first game so fantastically stupid it's brilliant.

#49 Posted by Nottle (1914 posts) -

@CptBedlam said:

@Nottle said:

@CptBedlam said:

Bayonetta is weird. I do remember snippets that make absolutely no sense, almost as if I had a blackout after getting drunk. I still know that at some point I was driving a motorcycle upside a rocket that was flying into space... and then I must have passed out or or something and eventually everyone was dancing.

I've played Bayonetta about 7 times and I'm still pretty confused. Especially story stuff. At somepoint I realized Cereza was Bayonetta and that the person you played as during the flashback stuff was Bayonetta's mom (I think.) But Jeanne was still the same age.

That said one of the best games this gen. Perfect in terms of gameplay.

Wat o_O

Maybe I should play that game a second time.

edit: okay, it's coming back. My memories are still hazy but some of it sounds familiar. Man, what a trip that game was - in a good way. I kinda like the feeling of being mentally exhausted from all that crazy stuff in the game.

I'd say the game is at it's strongest when it's not trying to have any emotion to it. Thats when it just gets confusing. I'm still not even sure who is who by the end and I've played it so many times. Kind of weird to think Bayonetta was ever a child.

But the weird story stuff is worth it for Bayonetta playing volleyball with enemies using her hair-demon=hands, or her starting a motorcycle with her middle finger, or Jeanne climbing a tower into space then knocking hair God into the sun.

#50 Posted by Humanity (9269 posts) -
@JazGalaxy while the story is pretty wacky I believe most fans are in fact huge fans because of the amazing gameplay and finely tuned combat system.

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