Bayonetta - Any Buyers?

Posted by Linkyshinks (9880 posts) -

 
Linkyshinks Bayonetta Review
 
     
 
I'm currently in the process of chasing up my "Pure Platinum" medals, it's worth it just to hear Cereza tell mummy she's the best.  

 


I cannot wait till next week!, I've waited ages for this Kamiya masterpiece. Who's with me, who's picking up this awesome game on launch night?, at what's being dubbed "the witching hour". Alternatively, who's taking a wait and see approach? If you are doing the latter, what exactly are you waiting for?.
 
Anyway, here's the new Bayonetta TV advert, It's short, but very sweet. I like the use of La Roux's- "In for the Kill"
 
Bayonetta TV Advert  

   
 
You guys in the US get the game on Tuesday (5th), those of us in Europe have to wait till Friday (8th).We in Europe get awesome pre-order gifts in the form of replica weaponry and the Climax Edition.   
 
 

Why Bayonetta?
 
I'm in love with everything about this game, even it's OTT style has managed to grow on me in a big way, but more so than what's seen on the surface, I love what this game has at it's very core - it's awesome combat system. It's the product of extreme labour on the part of  PlatinumGames (ex  Clover Studios). They spent an obsessive amount of time working on the games combat system alone, before anything else of consequence was even designed. (-that's how it should be done always imo)  It's extremely well devised and takes the genre to the next level, which was always the games design goal from the very start. What I like about the combat is the way it can force you to attack, block and evade in an almost rhythmic fashion. If you watch a noob play and it can seem like just another slasher, but watching an expert play can be wow worthy enough for you to drop your jaw in amazement.     
 
As you may already be well aware, Bayonetta's gameplay is full to the brim with what looks likes utter chaos, but it's ordered chaos, put into order because the combat system is so solid. I don't think you can have such chaos in any such videogame unless all cylinders are firing as far as the combat system. It would be too bewildering to the player otherwise. Everything has been implemented with skill, even old part and parcel features like bullet time have been given new life with this game. Kamiya-san was unhappy with where Capcom had taken the DMC franchise in his absence, his baby (- he made the first game, only, I should add). the development of this game has essentially been an outlet for him to cast off the past and innovate to bring the action genre back to where he thinks it belongs.  
 
The term hack and slash would be an offensive term to apply to this game given the games depth in combat, it's far from hack and slash, which suggests mind numbing combat that allows few options to the player. The combat here goes way beyond that of Ninja Gaiden and God of War's. If think the games distinct style may well put off a few people, but I personally love it because I know exactly what games have influenced it. The style has really grown on me, I now see that it aids the quirky camp comedy found in the game. It's very akin to the madness found in the great God Hand. 
 
 
For me,  Bayonetta is one of only a few videogames that seems to embrace the fact it's a videogame, it's celebrates the fact unashamedly in almost hedonistic fashion with beautiful chaos and fantastic gameplay.  
 
To any doubters, I suggest you keep an open mind. 
 
 
 
I'm getting two Scarborough Fair replica guns with my copy, as seen below. My girlfriend Jenni really wants one ^^, but I've told her she can't. I  just can't do it..I need to have two for collection purposes, well that's my excuse anyway.  I am making it up to her though, I've asked some Chinese dude in London's Chinatown to make me a Bayonetta voodoo doll, using the image below. I'm picking that up on Friday also, I think it'll keep her quiet, I hope it does... Of course, I don't mind her using them as kinky props in future ^^ 
  
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More info on the game can be found here 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
  
 Interviews with Hideki Kamiya for those who wish to know more about the game and what makes it special:
 
  
    
    
    
   
 
 

 
 Official Website:  http://www.sega.co.uk/platinumgames/bayonetta/en/index.html
 Bayonetta Fan Kit Download:  http://dl.sega.com/fansite-kits/Bayonetta_Fan_Site_Kit.zip      (110mb) 
 

   

   
Please keep all 360 V  PS3 discussion within this thread:   http://www.giantbomb.com/bayonetta/61-20710/so-its-official-bayonetta-on-ps3-sucks/35-379328/#103
 

 
Giant Bomb Bayonetta Video Review 
 
  
  
 
     
 

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#1 Edited by Linkyshinks (9880 posts) -

 
Linkyshinks Bayonetta Review
 
     
 
I'm currently in the process of chasing up my "Pure Platinum" medals, it's worth it just to hear Cereza tell mummy she's the best.  

 


I cannot wait till next week!, I've waited ages for this Kamiya masterpiece. Who's with me, who's picking up this awesome game on launch night?, at what's being dubbed "the witching hour". Alternatively, who's taking a wait and see approach? If you are doing the latter, what exactly are you waiting for?.
 
Anyway, here's the new Bayonetta TV advert, It's short, but very sweet. I like the use of La Roux's- "In for the Kill"
 
Bayonetta TV Advert  

   
 
You guys in the US get the game on Tuesday (5th), those of us in Europe have to wait till Friday (8th).We in Europe get awesome pre-order gifts in the form of replica weaponry and the Climax Edition.   
 
 

Why Bayonetta?
 
I'm in love with everything about this game, even it's OTT style has managed to grow on me in a big way, but more so than what's seen on the surface, I love what this game has at it's very core - it's awesome combat system. It's the product of extreme labour on the part of  PlatinumGames (ex  Clover Studios). They spent an obsessive amount of time working on the games combat system alone, before anything else of consequence was even designed. (-that's how it should be done always imo)  It's extremely well devised and takes the genre to the next level, which was always the games design goal from the very start. What I like about the combat is the way it can force you to attack, block and evade in an almost rhythmic fashion. If you watch a noob play and it can seem like just another slasher, but watching an expert play can be wow worthy enough for you to drop your jaw in amazement.     
 
As you may already be well aware, Bayonetta's gameplay is full to the brim with what looks likes utter chaos, but it's ordered chaos, put into order because the combat system is so solid. I don't think you can have such chaos in any such videogame unless all cylinders are firing as far as the combat system. It would be too bewildering to the player otherwise. Everything has been implemented with skill, even old part and parcel features like bullet time have been given new life with this game. Kamiya-san was unhappy with where Capcom had taken the DMC franchise in his absence, his baby (- he made the first game, only, I should add). the development of this game has essentially been an outlet for him to cast off the past and innovate to bring the action genre back to where he thinks it belongs.  
 
The term hack and slash would be an offensive term to apply to this game given the games depth in combat, it's far from hack and slash, which suggests mind numbing combat that allows few options to the player. The combat here goes way beyond that of Ninja Gaiden and God of War's. If think the games distinct style may well put off a few people, but I personally love it because I know exactly what games have influenced it. The style has really grown on me, I now see that it aids the quirky camp comedy found in the game. It's very akin to the madness found in the great God Hand. 
 
 
For me,  Bayonetta is one of only a few videogames that seems to embrace the fact it's a videogame, it's celebrates the fact unashamedly in almost hedonistic fashion with beautiful chaos and fantastic gameplay.  
 
To any doubters, I suggest you keep an open mind. 
 
 
 
I'm getting two Scarborough Fair replica guns with my copy, as seen below. My girlfriend Jenni really wants one ^^, but I've told her she can't. I  just can't do it..I need to have two for collection purposes, well that's my excuse anyway.  I am making it up to her though, I've asked some Chinese dude in London's Chinatown to make me a Bayonetta voodoo doll, using the image below. I'm picking that up on Friday also, I think it'll keep her quiet, I hope it does... Of course, I don't mind her using them as kinky props in future ^^ 
  
edit: 
 

    


    
      

More info on the game can be found here 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
  
 Interviews with Hideki Kamiya for those who wish to know more about the game and what makes it special:
 
  
    
    
    
   
 
 

 
 Official Website:  http://www.sega.co.uk/platinumgames/bayonetta/en/index.html
 Bayonetta Fan Kit Download:  http://dl.sega.com/fansite-kits/Bayonetta_Fan_Site_Kit.zip      (110mb) 
 

   

   
Please keep all 360 V  PS3 discussion within this thread:   http://www.giantbomb.com/bayonetta/61-20710/so-its-official-bayonetta-on-ps3-sucks/35-379328/#103
 

 
Giant Bomb Bayonetta Video Review 
 
  
  
 
     
 

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#2 Posted by Fallen189 (4977 posts) -

I am very excited to play this game. It looks like God Hand meets Devil May Cry. I'm so down with this.

#3 Posted by CaptainObvious (2996 posts) -

I would but Dante's Inferno conquered my heart.

#4 Posted by Whisperkill (2969 posts) -

Fuck Yes.... Bayonetta has undoubtedly the most in depth and unique combat system of any action game ever. Nobody even comes close to Kamiya.

#5 Posted by MistaSparkle (2148 posts) -
@CaptainObvious said:
"I would but Dante's Inferno conquered my heart. "

Yea at first I thought they were both pretty stupid compared to God of War. Now that Ive played both I can see that Bayonetta is okay, I couldn't really tell what was going on, but Dante's Inferno is just amazing.
#6 Posted by Bigandtasty (3202 posts) -
@Linkyshinks: According to Google the song is "In for the Kill" by La Roux.
#7 Posted by GunstarRed (5103 posts) -

You are very excited for this game.... But it makes sense, it's so good I bought it twice!  
 
(although I probably wouldn't have if you hadn't started posting pictures everywhere of those damn guns) 
 
 
also... Dantes inferno...really? *shrug*

#8 Edited by pause422 (6178 posts) -

Im pretty excited to play it..Im not buying it because I dont buy any console games ever anymore, only gamefly them, but its definitely one I will have for a while. I totally was ready to ignore it, but after playing the demo, Im totally in for some insane over the top super fun awesomeness. Not real words, I know.

#9 Posted by RVonE (4623 posts) -

I preordered this game a while ago and it will be shipped out to my address today. Most European stores have, just today, changed their stock indicators for this game from "preorder" to "available" or something to that extent.
#10 Posted by PenguinDust (12483 posts) -

I want to but, I'll probably wait.  (A) Right now I have only one game I am "day-one" focused on, and that's Mass Effect 2.  (B) I have a ton of games I am behind on and don't need any more before I give those others a reasonable amount of play.  Bayonetta does look really sweet though and I would love a fast DMC-like game that isn't DMC or Ninja Gaiden.  Try as I might, I wasn't captivated by DMC4 and Ninja Gaiden 1 was just too hard for me (yeah, I suck I know).  So, if Bayonetta is more engaging than DMC4 and easier than Ninja Gaiden, I will eventually pick it up.  I haven't played the demo yet.  Is it out on PSN US or do I still need to get a Japanese account?

#11 Edited by Linkyshinks (9880 posts) -
 
@pause422
said:

" Im pretty excited to play it..Im not buying it because I dont buy any console games ever anymore, only gamefly them, but its definitely one I will have for a while. I totally was ready to ignore it, but after playing the demo, Im totally in for some insane over the top super fun awesomeness. Not real words, I know. "

  
The game would probably make a great rental, but for those buying, you'll get a really good amount of re-playability with this game. Kamiya designed the game with it in mind, after being well aware about such criticisms levelled at games in the genre prior. 
 
 
 
  @marioncobretti said:
"

You are very excited for this game.... But it makes sense, it's so good I bought it twice!  
 
(although I probably wouldn't have if you hadn't started posting pictures everywhere of those damn guns) 
 
 
also... Dantes inferno...really? *shrug*

"
Haha, sorry.   
 

Dante actually looks and plays like a good game, but it's wearing down a very well worn track, and it's developers have little to no experience in the genre. I much prefer something fresh and wild as seen in abundance with this game, from a truly great games designer, who does have ample experience in the genre.   
 
I think God of War 3 will make Dante seem even more tired when it comes out a few weeks later.
  
 

  
 @RVonE said: 

" I preordered this game a while ago and it will be shipped out to my address today. Most European stores have, just today, changed their stock indicators for this game from "preorder" to "available" or something to that extent. "

 
I think I'll call up my local store and check. If the computers say it's available, then a store are allowed to sell it - head office saying it's OK. It  usuallyhappens when a major retailer breaks the line. Maybe it's happened in the UK, but I doubt it.  I do know it has happened in the US.
#12 Posted by Yukoei (1878 posts) -

 PS3 is my prefered console so no.

#13 Posted by DanielJW (4915 posts) -

I only have a PS3, and I've been hearing about lots of issues involved with the PS3 version.  
 
It looks really good, but I think I'm going to hold off on buying it. Perhaps I'll get it when some of the problems are cleared up or a patch get's pushed out.

#14 Edited by Linkyshinks (9880 posts) -
@Yukoei said:

"  PS3 is my prefered console so no. "

 
 
@DanielJW
said:

" I only have a PS3, and I've been hearing about lots of issues involved with the PS3 version.   It looks really good, but I think I'm going to hold off on buying it. Perhaps I'll get it when some of the problems are cleared up or a patch get's pushed out. "

 
It's sad that PS3 owners feel inclined to shun this, but I do understand why perfectly. If I owned a PS3 only I'd be pretty pissed off about this, even while knowing there's little that can be done. If and when you get  360's, you should definitely get around to playing this awesome game.  
 
I sincerely hope a patch does happen down the line, PS3 users deserve to play this game as intended. I think Sega should take on the development costs of any future patch, seeing as though they're largely responsible.  PlatinumGames should definitely send some on their technical team to consult on such a project.
#15 Posted by DanielJW (4915 posts) -
@Linkyshinks: Yeah. I'll probably grab it anyways, I'm just going to give it a few weeks to see if they do anything about it. Pick it up after a price drop, or something to that effect. 
#16 Posted by Yukoei (1878 posts) -
@Linkyshinks said:
" @Yukoei said:
"  PS3 is my prefered console so no. "
 
 
@DanielJW
said:
" I only have a PS3, and I've been hearing about lots of issues involved with the PS3 version.   It looks really good, but I think I'm going to hold off on buying it. Perhaps I'll get it when some of the problems are cleared up or a patch get's pushed out. "
 It's sad sad that PS3 owners feel inclined to shun this, but I do understand why, perfectly. If I owned a PS3 only I'd be pretty pissed off about this, even while knowing there's little that can be done. If and when you get  360's, you should definitely get around to playing this awesome game.   I sincerely hope a patch does happen down the line, PS3 users deserve to play this game as intended. I think Sega should take on the development costs of any future patch, seeing as though they're largely responsible.  PlatinumGames should definitely send some on their technical team to consult on such a project. "
Same with me -
" @Linkyshinks: Yeah. I'll probably grab it anyways, I'm just going to give it a few weeks to see if they do anything about it. Pick it up after a price drop, or something to that effect.  "
#17 Posted by ZmillA (2268 posts) -

Its the best game of its type. The combat is the pinnacle

#18 Posted by Evilsbane (4582 posts) -

This game confuses me I like God of War, never liked Devil May Cry and this just seems strange but there are so many good reviews I feel like I am missing something but I just don't see what is so super special about this game.

#19 Posted by CaptainObvious (2996 posts) -
@marioncobretti said:
"

You are very excited for this game.... But it makes sense, it's so good I bought it twice!  
 
(although I probably wouldn't have if you hadn't started posting pictures everywhere of those damn guns) 
 
 
also... Dantes inferno...really? *shrug*

"
Bear in mind that i have never played God Of War before, so Dante's Inferno blew my balls off.
#20 Posted by Neon941 (238 posts) -

Wow, just a tad excited huh mate? I want it, but I don't think I'll get it on the release day, not really because I'm taking a wait and see approach, just because there's a bunch of other games I really ought to finish first. I'm into it's crazy style and stuff like Devil May Cry though so I fully expect to enjoy it.

#21 Posted by Eelcire (367 posts) -

Already have mine pre-ordered and fully paid for. Just waiting for GameStop to call me up so I can get it. Though it is disappointing that GameStop won't break street date as many stores in the states have already been selling the game.

#22 Posted by Capum15 (4857 posts) -

Looks cool, but I doubt I'll get it. At least not for a while.

#23 Posted by Linkyshinks (9880 posts) -
@Eelcire:  
 
 It must be even more annoying given your measly pre-order gift. I'm not rubbing it in of course ;) 
#24 Posted by scarace360 (4828 posts) -

can i get the guns even though i live in canada if i can SOLD!!

#25 Posted by cstrang (2381 posts) -

I played the demo the other night and determined it wasn't really my cup of tea.  Not my $60 cup of tea, anyways.  I may pick it up later in the year when it has a cheaper price tag.  I prefer the slightly-more-transparently structured and more mashy Dante's Inferno.

#26 Posted by inkeiren (989 posts) -

Omigod La Roux :D

#27 Posted by JJOR64 (18941 posts) -

I'm buying this day one.

#28 Edited by Linkyshinks (9880 posts) -
@cstrang said:

" I played the demo the other night and determined it wasn't really my cup of tea.  Not my $60 cup of tea, anyways.  I may pick it up later in the year when it has a cheaper price tag.  I prefer the slightly-more-transparently structured and more mashy Dante's Inferno. "

 
I suggest you give it another go, I would recommend anyone going into the training mode and practising all the combos available, including the bullet time one, and then taking those moves into open gameplay of the demo and attempting to chain them as I did. The game really impresses when your able to see just how one move can seamlessly link into another, it's almost like a veil drops.  Unfortunately the demo is piss easy, but it does give a good opportunity to see just what awesome combos can be achieved with practise.
#29 Posted by ShaunM (82 posts) -

Getting it day one, January is such a clusterfuck of games that I want to buy.

#30 Posted by LiquidSwords (2738 posts) -

Bought it yesterday, Best Buy put it out early, such a rad game.
#31 Posted by Solarus (269 posts) -

I played the demo and was pretty impressed. I'll likely pick it up, but I might wait a week first, just to make sure it didn't suffer from DMC4 syndrome (game that seemed cool in the demo, ended up just being meh in full release).

#32 Posted by Daryl (1781 posts) -

LOL

#33 Posted by Diamond (8634 posts) -

Yea I got it preordered now.  Not sure how much I'll like it overall, but I've notice the demo is fun to reply to go for better metals, so I hope at least that carries over to the full game for me.  Also After Burner and Planet Harrier remixes!

#34 Posted by amandackrueger (251 posts) -
@cstrang said:
"I played the demo the other night and determined it wasn't really my cup of tea.  Not my $60 cup of tea, anyways.  I may pick it up later in the year when it has a cheaper price tag.  I prefer the slightly-more-transparently structured and more mashy Dante's Inferno. "

Agreed. Game looks pretty nice, but my $60 money is tied up for BioShock 2, FF13 and God of War 3. I really need to quit spending like this...sheesh.
#35 Posted by Wildfire570 (719 posts) -

I have played the demo many times and still have fun with it. This is one of the games that I'm definitely looking forward to next year.

#36 Posted by tactis (353 posts) -

played the demo, I dont know I dint like it that much, I am not a huge fan of DMC, I decided to go with Darksiders instead that game looks sweet.

#37 Posted by Evilsbane (4582 posts) -
@Linkyshinks said:
"  
 
@Evilsbane said:

" This game confuses me I like God of War, never liked Devil May Cry and this just seems strange but there are so many good reviews I feel like I am missing something but I just don't see what is so super special about this game. "

 
It's primarily the games core, it's combat system which is the product of extreme labour on the part of PlatinumGames (ex Clover Studios). They spent an obsessive amount of time working on the games combat system alone, before anything else was designed. (-that's how it should be done always imo) It's very well devised and takes the genre to the next level, which was always the games goal.  As you may already be well aware, Bayonetta's gameplay is full to the brim with what looks likes utter chaos, but it's ordered chaos, ordered because the foundation of the combat is so solid. You cannot have such chaos in any such videogame unless all cylinders are firing as far as the combat system.
 
Kamiya has been unhappy with where Capcom have taken the DMC franchise in his absence, his baby (- he made the first game, only I should add). this game essentially has been a outlet for him to cast off the past and innovate to bring the action genre back where it belongs. The term hack and slash would be an offensive term to apply to this game given the games depth in combat, it's far from hack and slash, which suggests mind numbing combat that allows few options to the player. The combat here goes way beyond that of Ninja Gaiden and God of War's.
 
If think the games distinct style may put off a few people, but I personally love it because I know exactly where it derives from and I appreciate it. It has really grown on me, I see that it's very much an essential part of the comedy found in this game. 
 
Bayonetta is one of only a few videogames that seems to embrace the fact it's a videogames, it's celebrates the fact with beautiful chaos and great gameplay. Have you ever played God Hand?, I ask because that games garish OTT style has in part influenced this game.      ... "
Lol I think you just convinced me to buy the damn gamn.
#38 Posted by Yummylee (21475 posts) -

I'll be getting it eventually. Not before God of War 3 and Dante's Inferno though truthfully. =O
#39 Posted by Video_Game_King (36272 posts) -

Not yet, since I have about 9 on-deck games for this gen alone. I'm not even counting other games, like Shining Force III and Legend of Dragoon.

#40 Posted by Seedofpower (3928 posts) -

I'm really surprised by the amount of attention this game is getting. When I saw the quicklook it doesn't seem any different or great from other games in the same genre. 
 
Hopefully GB will do a review of it.

#41 Posted by Rebirth1337 (795 posts) -

I'm only going to be picking up one DMC/God of War clone this 2010, and that's either Darksiders or Dante's Inferno.

#42 Posted by Dungeonbuster (27 posts) -

Day One. Loved it since trying it out at E3.

#43 Posted by m1k3 (1326 posts) -

I imported the game when it was released in Asia, if you liked the demo you will like the full game. of course the demo doesn't show a lot of whats in the main game. Im really enjoying it with what little time i have to play it

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#44 Posted by BagSquad (127 posts) -

Anyone who buys Dante's Inferno is a undereducated scrub. BAYONETTA GAME OF FOREVER

#45 Posted by Icemael (6314 posts) -

Picking it up day one. It's my most anticipated game.
 
They aren't releasing any special edition here in Sweden though, which is a damn shame. I'd love to own one of those smexy gun replicas.

#46 Posted by Luke (1609 posts) -

I have Bayonetta pre-ordered for 360.  Next week it's on! 

#47 Posted by bonbolapti (1611 posts) -

It's kind of weird... I liked this stuff when It was Devil May Cry. Bayonetta's appeal just seems like a liiitle too much. I'm on the fence about it mind you, but there's this part of me thinking I could really do without it.
#48 Posted by Linkyshinks (9880 posts) -
@Diamond said:

" Yea I got it preordered now.  Not sure how much I'll like it overall, but I've notice the demo is fun to reply to go for better metals, so I hope at least that carries over to the full game for me.  Also After Burner and Planet Harrier remixes! "

 
 If you haven't already... 
 
http://rapidshare.com/files/324034697/linkyspecial.zip.html    
#49 Posted by Diamond (8634 posts) -
@Linkyshinks: neat, thanks.  You know when these play in the game?  I assume they actually do play in the game at some point, right?
#50 Posted by Tru3_Blu3 (3201 posts) -

After playing both Dante's Inferno's and Bayonetta's demos, I have come to the conclusion that Dante's Inferno is much better. But that's just me.

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