Hideki Kamiya angered at Bayonetta porn

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#1 Posted by dudeglove (7854 posts) -

A frigging hilarious piece courtesy of CVG
 


Bayonetta game designer Hideki Kamiya has made it clear that he isn't happy about the emergence of porn based on his character.

He claimed that the makers of the pornographic doujinshi (self-published manga) have no love for the game. That may be so Mr. Kamiya, but they certainly have love for certain parts of it.

Kamiya expressed his dismay on Twitter saying, "It seems there's pornorgraphic doujinshi based off Bayonetta... There are fans who will resent that, and I hardly think those responsible [for the doujinshi] hold any love for the game..."
 
Sega told CVG that it was keen on a Bayonetta sequel, with the success of the first game, we'd say a follow-up is about as inevitable as Bayonetta porn itself.  

 
Well..umm... is anyone surprised that this has happened to the most over-sexualized character in the most over-sexualised game in video game history (feel free to propose others)? I'm just wondering if the sequel can top the first game.
#2 Posted by Cube (4366 posts) -

If he didn't want porn made of it he shouldn't have made the character look like she's practically begging to be a sex slave.

#3 Edited by Vic_Viper (19 posts) -

Rule 34. No exceptions.
#4 Posted by Lautaro (448 posts) -
@dudeglove said:
" A frigging hilarious piece courtesy of CVG
 


Bayonetta game designer Hideki Kamiya has made it clear that he isn't happy about the emergence of porn based on his character.

He claimed that the makers of the pornographic doujinshi (self-published manga) have no love for the game. That may be so Mr. Kamiya, but they certainly have love for certain parts of it.

Kamiya expressed his dismay on Twitter saying, "It seems there's pornorgraphic doujinshi based off Bayonetta... There are fans who will resent that, and I hardly think those responsible [for the doujinshi] hold any love for the game..."
 
Sega told CVG that it was keen on a Bayonetta sequel, with the success of the first game, we'd say a follow-up is about as inevitable as Bayonetta porn itself.  

 Well..umm... is anyone surprised that this has happened to the most over-sexualized character in the most over-sexualised game in video game history (feel free to propose others)? I'm just wondering if the sequel can top the first game. "
Fear Effect 1 and 2 were ridiculously over the top with their sexual innuendo. It would be close between Fear Effect and Bayonetta.
#5 Posted by BiffMcBlumpkin (3720 posts) -

Have you read it yet? The reason I'm asking is because I was wondering if she's a dickgirl in this new comic. 
 
If she isn't a dickgirl I'm not really interested but if she is a dickgirl where would I go about ordering this thing? I can't read Japanese but when there's dickgirls involved I understand what the characters are saying on an instinctual level 99% of the time.
#6 Posted by Demigonis (192 posts) -
@dudeglove said:
the most over-sexualized character in the most over-sexualised game in video game history (feel free to propose others)? "
You've clearly never played Dead or Alive Xtreme Beach Volleyball. Or seen Rachel from Ninja Gaiden. >.>
#7 Posted by BiffMcBlumpkin (3720 posts) -
@Cube said:
"If he didn't want porn made of it he shouldn't have made the character look like she's practically begging to be a sex slave. "

You're a chauvinist. People said the exact same thing about regular slaves a few centuries ago.
#8 Posted by Cube (4366 posts) -
@BiffMcBlumpkin said:
" @Cube said:
"If he didn't want porn made of it he shouldn't have made the character look like she's practically begging to be a sex slave. "
You're a chauvinist. People said the exact same thing about regular slaves a few centuries ago. "
I'm an asshole and even I'm not touching that one.
#9 Posted by BiffMcBlumpkin (3720 posts) -
@Cube said:
" @BiffMcBlumpkin said:
" @Cube said:
"If he didn't want porn made of it he shouldn't have made the character look like she's practically begging to be a sex slave. "
You're a chauvinist. People said the exact same thing about regular slaves a few centuries ago. "
I'm an asshole and even I'm not touching that one. "

I said the same thing about dickgirls but after the lightest of touches I can't keep my hands off of 'em!
#10 Posted by Lawrens (688 posts) -

I don't know why he's surprised, there are doujin for everything including characters that are not sexualized, even though bayonetta's is mostly tongue-in-cheek. There are probably yaoi even on Dante and Vergil, doesn't mean the person doesn't like playing his games.

#11 Posted by Shirogane (3574 posts) -
@Cube said:
"If he didn't want porn made of it he shouldn't have made the character look like she's practically begging to be a sex slave. "

I think it's the complete opposite here, she seems more like a dominatrix...
#12 Posted by ryanwho (12082 posts) -

He's probably just annoyed that they're getting the proportions all wrong.

#13 Posted by BiffMcBlumpkin (3720 posts) -

 
#14 Posted by OwnlyUzinWonHan (1480 posts) -

He probably wouldn't like some games on Giantbomb either.
Oh and uh, dickgirl

#15 Posted by rjayb89 (7722 posts) -

WHERE?

#16 Posted by Grim_Fandango (258 posts) -

Hmm, least Hideki said something about the trend--but like someone said before this post...
 
"Rule 34... no exceptions." Welcome to the internet Hideki.

#17 Posted by BiffMcBlumpkin (3720 posts) -
@OwnlyUzinWonHan said:
"Oh and uh, dickgirl "

Is this your version of "Seacrest, out!"?
#18 Posted by chrissedoff (2108 posts) -

so he's mad that his unrealistically proportioned dominatrix who fights people by taking off her clothes is being put into porn?
hm. i thought only pat robertson was capable of that kind of hypocritical sanctimoniousness. fuck this idiot in his stupid ass.

#19 Posted by OwnlyUzinWonHan (1480 posts) -
@BiffMcBlumpkin:  Remember, GB's popularity in naked cartoon pussy has been surpassed, so why not get a leg up on dickgirl searches?
Eh? EH!?
#20 Posted by BiffMcBlumpkin (3720 posts) -
@chrissedoff said:
"fuck this idiot in his stupid ass."


If it's going to be that kind of party I'm going to stick my dickgirl in the mashed potatoes!
#21 Posted by iAmJohn (6120 posts) -

Biff, I love you man. <3 
 
No homo.  Okay, maybe a little.

#22 Posted by LiquidPrince (15949 posts) -

So he didn't expect this, with his crazy over sexualized pole dancing stripper heroine?

#23 Posted by dudeglove (7854 posts) -
@Demigonis: I've seen both, but never played either, but I get your point. Bayonetta has raised the bar by about a thousand miles, though.
 
Are all Japanese developers fully detached from reality like Kamiya and SWERY?
#24 Posted by ryanwho (12082 posts) -
@BiffMcBlumpkin said:
"
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Not sure what quoting my avatar picture means. Let me into your world here.
#25 Posted by BiffMcBlumpkin (3720 posts) -


 
#26 Posted by iAmJohn (6120 posts) -
@ryanwho: I think it means he's sexually attracted to you.  You might want to bar your windows before you go to sleep tonight.
#27 Posted by ryanwho (12082 posts) -

I probably shouldn't tell you this, by my landlord cheaped out on windows. They come right off. Also I sleep naked. Also I have a hard time sleeping so I take rohypnol before bed.

#28 Posted by TheSilentTruth (1115 posts) -

"I should be a pole dancer!"
 
Well, people have drawn her to be that and more.

#29 Posted by BiffMcBlumpkin (3720 posts) -

 
#30 Posted by kingclaw (757 posts) -
@BiffMcBlumpkin said:
" Have you read it yet? The reason I'm asking is because I was wondering if she's a dickgirl in this new comic.  If she isn't a dickgirl I'm not really interested but if she is a dickgirl where would I go about ordering this thing? I can't read Japanese but when there's dickgirls involved I understand what the characters are saying on an instinctual level 99% of the time. "
What´s a dickgirl?
#31 Posted by BiffMcBlumpkin (3720 posts) -
@TheSilentTruth said:
""I should be a pole dancer!"  Well, people have drawn her to be that and more. "

Way to fuck up my rhythm. From now on you should wait at least two minutes to respond to any thread after a fresh response in the event that I'm planning to post the last person's avatar.
#32 Posted by BiffMcBlumpkin (3720 posts) -
@kingclaw said:
" @BiffMcBlumpkin said:
" Have you read it yet? The reason I'm asking is because I was wondering if she's a dickgirl in this new comic.  If she isn't a dickgirl I'm not really interested but if she is a dickgirl where would I go about ordering this thing? I can't read Japanese but when there's dickgirls involved I understand what the characters are saying on an instinctual level 99% of the time. "
What´s a dickgirl? "


 
#33 Posted by Capum15 (4901 posts) -
@BiffMcBlumpkin: You're still awesome. Also, Rule 34. Internet. Yadda yadda.
#34 Posted by owl_of_minerva (1455 posts) -
@dudeglove:  I disagree with this. Although there is a lot of sexuality present in Bayonetta, it does not simply reinforce the exploitation of women by men a la porn. That's what would irritate Kamiya.
 
If you're interested, here'a character analysis of Bayonetta that distinguishes her from other video game characters: http://screwattack.com/videos/TGO-Episode-32-I-Heart-Bayonetta                 
#35 Posted by HitmanAgent47 (8576 posts) -

So I take it they aren't going to make a hentai of the game then.

#36 Posted by dudeglove (7854 posts) -
@owl_of_minerva said:
" @dudeglove:  I disagree with this. Although there is a lot of sexuality present in Bayonetta, it does not simply reinforce the exploitation of women by men a la porn. That's what would irritate Kamiya. If you're interested, here'a character analysis of Bayonetta that distinguishes her from other video game characters: http://screwattack.com/videos/TGO-Episode-32-I-Heart-Bayonetta                  "
I rather enjoyed that vid, thanks. 
 
And yes, I agree with your interpretation. Either there's something wrong with me, or I need new glasses (usually the former), but I hand-on-heart wasn't attracted to Bayonetta in the slightest. This is probably due to the fact that Bayonetta does have an actual personality that TOG alludes to, one which is genuinely intimidating (i.e. would you want anything to do with this pole-dancing witch, and if you did, would you even cope?). If anything her sassy dialogue and in-your-face-but-don't-give-a-damn attitude makes her pretty much Dante with tits.
 
 As bizarre as it sounds, the player is controlling a woman, rather than jiggle-physics clone girl #345 and that's one of the things that makes Bayonetta unique.
#37 Posted by Jadeskye (4367 posts) -
@Cube said:
" If he didn't want porn made of it he shouldn't have made the character look like she's practically begging to be a sex slave. "
I think she'd be more inclined to be a top :p
#38 Posted by PillClinton (3291 posts) -
@BiffMcBlumpkin said:
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#39 Edited by Ghostiet (5279 posts) -
@Vicviper said:

" Rule 34. No exceptions. "

I don't think Rule 34 needs to be brought up when we're talking about a character that looks like she's from A FUCKING BDSM HARDCORE PORNO.
#40 Posted by owl_of_minerva (1455 posts) -
@dudeglove:  Glad you enjoyed the video. She is definitely unique, and as a character one of the bolder moves for gender representation in gaming - it's easy to confuse the game's Baroque excesses as an endorsement of the same old titillation to be found in other games. 
 
On an unrelated note, I consider the argument that Bayonetta pron is ok because the character is sexualised is on the same level as saying that someone wearing a short skirt deserves to get raped. Just because the otaku response is depressing and predictable doesn't make it valid.
#41 Posted by Jadeskye (4367 posts) -

 I'd hit it.
#42 Posted by Tennmuerti (8104 posts) -

I think he's just upset that a lot of the porn is shitty and not as sexy as ingame Bayonetta.

#43 Edited by Catolf (2653 posts) -
@owl_of_minerva said:

" @dudeglove:  Glad you enjoyed the video. She is definitely unique, and as a character one of the bolder moves for gender representation in gaming - it's easy to confuse the game's Baroque excesses as an endorsement of the same old titillation to be found in other games.   On an unrelated note, I consider the argument that Bayonetta pron is ok because the character is sexualised is on the same level as saying that someone wearing a short skirt deserves to get raped. Just because the otaku response is depressing and predictable doesn't make it valid. "

I agree with this. And I understand the creators distress. Just because she is sexual, dosen't mean she need's to be thrown in porn.
 
But I know this is the internet, hell i've read so many KH porns it's not even funny, i do think he need's to take a moment and realize if he can't beat them, demand better quality. Or even some money out of it at least.
#44 Posted by Illmatic (1358 posts) -

No one told me the man who made Bayonetta was mentally handicapped.

#45 Posted by Daveyo520 (6761 posts) -
@BiffMcBlumpkin:
 Cartoon Pussy is all for me!
#46 Edited by Videogames (257 posts) -

There is Hey Arnold! porn.. So I would say if it exists, somewhere down the line, porn will be made.

#47 Posted by Ace829 (2083 posts) -

I don't understand his outrage. It's like leaving a $20 bill on the sidewalk and getting mad if someone just takes it. Of course it will happen! You were begging to have it taken! Just like how he oversexualizes his creation and gets mad that there is porn. Of course there's porn! The game is literally a sexual tease! 
(Not sure if it's the best analogy)

#48 Posted by TheHT (11266 posts) -
@Cube said:
" If he didn't want porn made of it he shouldn't have made the character look like she's practically begging to be a sex slave. "
even then there'd be porn of her.
#49 Posted by Cube (4366 posts) -
@jadeskye said:
" @Cube said:
" If he didn't want porn made of it he shouldn't have made the character look like she's practically begging to be a sex slave. "
I think she'd be more inclined to be a top :p "
Not with me. 
 
>.>
#50 Edited by Superfriend (1554 posts) -

I guess Hideki Kamiya is about the only person on this planet with respect for Bayonetta´s story and characters. Sorry, but not just your main character- your entire GAME is begging for this exact thing. Well, maybe not Bayonetta-porn or something, but at least a couple of highlight reels from the atrocious dialogue.  

Maybe someone could make sitcom with all the weird characters/models in that game. Get some bad voice actors and you´re done. Best sitcom ever.

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