Do you think it was even a good idea to call it Bioshock?

#1 Posted by NTM (7516 posts) -

I understand it must be for sells purposes, but I wish it was more than that, where Infinite and the first two Bioshock games were actually connected canonically. I kind of just hate how it's not. Actually, I don't know if it is. Does anyone know if it is or not? I remember just hearing that it probably isn't. Why couldn't they just name it something else? I know this has been brought up before, but I thought I'd do so again. Alright, Bioshock is finally installed, see ya!

#2 Posted by Packie (255 posts) -

I do remember Levine saying that it was because they're thematically similar that they kept the name, kinda like Final Fantasy. That and market recognition.

#3 Edited by vinsanityv22 (1064 posts) -

Concerning Bioshock/Bioshock 2: I think it's fine. I mean, it's the spiritual successor to System Shock, so they had to communicate that. But it's not just about advertising it; it's got the same DNA. Might as well be called BioShock.

Now, Bioshock Infinite is full of shit though. That should be a new -Shock entirely. "AeroShock" or something - the System denoted that that game was about the hi-tech environment, the Bio denotes that it's about the aquatic one. This new game should have a name that denotes it takes place in the skies. The ONLY reason it's called Bioshock ANYTHING is to capitalize on the strength of the brand. That's a marketing decision, not Irrational's - I'd bet my ass on it.

Also, shouldn't it be Bioshock: Infinity? Not only does Infinite not roll off the tongue, but it means nothing - there's no such thing as "A Bioshock". How can there be an infinite number of them?

#4 Posted by TheDudeOfGaming (6078 posts) -

It's a great game...damn it, now i want to play it. Anyway, i like the name.

#5 Posted by LOZZAT (252 posts) -

Despite what they may want me to call it, I will forever call it Skyoshock.

#6 Posted by Barrock (3551 posts) -

I think it was a case of the publisher wanting them to keep it because of recognition. Though I wouldn't be surprised if there was a tie in somewhere.

#7 Posted by Brians (1465 posts) -

Marketing....Name Recognition, Yes.

#8 Posted by Colt (110 posts) -

You realize if Bioshock wasn't in the name, everyone would just complain how its just ripping off what worked for bioshock.

#9 Posted by AngelN7 (2972 posts) -

@Colt said:

You realize if Bioshock wasn't in the name, everyone would just complain how its just ripping off what worked for bioshock.

This pretty much , its kinda funny and something really frustrating to developers in how you can't never please gamers with that kind of stuff.

#10 Posted by razkazz (169 posts) -

The prefix "Bio" doesn't have any connection to the sea, so the name is just as appropriate for Infinite as it was for the first two games.

#11 Edited by Stete (748 posts) -

I don't mind but I think it would have been nicer if they called it something else under the prefix of -shock (but definitely not Sky-o-shock...where you play as a guy-o-shock), after all even if they did own the rights I doubt they would have named Bioshock as System Shock 3. Although if it takes place in the same universe as Bioshock then that would make total sense. But does it? Does it not? Well find out in February I guess.

#12 Posted by jonnyboy (2920 posts) -

Yes, because money.

#13 Posted by BeachThunder (12276 posts) -

I am very certain that you teleport (or whatever) to Rapture, or perhaps characters from Bioshock appear in the game; it seems like a very Ken Levine thing to do. I doubt it's purely because of marketing.

#14 Posted by NTM (7516 posts) -

I was just saying it would have been nice if it wasn't called Bioshock if it's not even related. You have System Shock, and from what I've heard, it's somewhat similar to Bioshock (or the other way around), and that was acceptable, now why would you need to call this one Bioshock? I'm not saying I hate the name, I'm just saying, don't do it for sales reasons. I don't think just because the game will be similar, it's acceptable to give it the same name. Like I said, I just think it has to be in the same universe, and it has to be connected somehow to merit the name.

@BeachThunder: That would be nice.

#15 Posted by razkazz (169 posts) -

It is in the same universe, just earlier.

#16 Posted by Heltom92 (714 posts) -

@vinsanityv22 said:

Concerning Bioshock/Bioshock 2: I think it's fine. I mean, it's the spiritual successor to System Shock, so they had to communicate that. But it's not just about advertising it; it's got the same DNA. Might as well be called BioShock.

Now, Bioshock Infinite is full of shit though. That should be a new -Shock entirely. "AeroShock" or something - the System denoted that that game was about the hi-tech environment, the Bio denotes that it's about the aquatic one. This new game should have a name that denotes it takes place in the skies. The ONLY reason it's called Bioshock ANYTHING is to capitalize on the strength of the brand. That's a marketing decision, not Irrational's - I'd bet my ass on it.

Also, shouldn't it be Bioshock: Infinity? Not only does Infinite not roll off the tongue, but it means nothing - there's no such thing as "A Bioshock". How can there be an infinite number of them?

Surely the 'Bio' part of the name refers to the genetic mutation of the citizens of Rapture/Columbia?

#17 Posted by Liquidus (946 posts) -

@Heltom92 said:

@vinsanityv22 said:

Concerning Bioshock/Bioshock 2: I think it's fine. I mean, it's the spiritual successor to System Shock, so they had to communicate that. But it's not just about advertising it; it's got the same DNA. Might as well be called BioShock.

Now, Bioshock Infinite is full of shit though. That should be a new -Shock entirely. "AeroShock" or something - the System denoted that that game was about the hi-tech environment, the Bio denotes that it's about the aquatic one. This new game should have a name that denotes it takes place in the skies. The ONLY reason it's called Bioshock ANYTHING is to capitalize on the strength of the brand. That's a marketing decision, not Irrational's - I'd bet my ass on it.

Also, shouldn't it be Bioshock: Infinity? Not only does Infinite not roll off the tongue, but it means nothing - there's no such thing as "A Bioshock". How can there be an infinite number of them?

Surely the 'Bio' part of the name refers to the genetic mutation of the citizens of Rapture/Columbia?

Yeah, that's what I was under the impression of and therefore calling this next game "BioShock" makes sense to me.

#18 Posted by Tylea002 (2295 posts) -

@Colt said:

You realize if Bioshock wasn't in the name, everyone would just complain how its just ripping off what worked for bioshock.

Exactly, the game seems to play extremely similarly. It is a Bioshock game it is not a rapture story.

#19 Posted by EmuLeader (558 posts) -

@Tylea002 said:

@Colt said:

You realize if Bioshock wasn't in the name, everyone would just complain how its just ripping off what worked for bioshock.

Exactly, the game seems to play extremely similarly. It is a Bioshock game it is not a rapture story.

The game is very similar in setting and style, just in a different time and location. I think BioShock when I see the characters, environment, and gameplay of Infinite, not just because that is how it is labeled, but because of a thematic consistency.

#20 Posted by SethPhotopoulos (5359 posts) -

@Liquidus said:

@Heltom92 said:

@vinsanityv22 said:

Concerning Bioshock/Bioshock 2: I think it's fine. I mean, it's the spiritual successor to System Shock, so they had to communicate that. But it's not just about advertising it; it's got the same DNA. Might as well be called BioShock.

Now, Bioshock Infinite is full of shit though. That should be a new -Shock entirely. "AeroShock" or something - the System denoted that that game was about the hi-tech environment, the Bio denotes that it's about the aquatic one. This new game should have a name that denotes it takes place in the skies. The ONLY reason it's called Bioshock ANYTHING is to capitalize on the strength of the brand. That's a marketing decision, not Irrational's - I'd bet my ass on it.

Also, shouldn't it be Bioshock: Infinity? Not only does Infinite not roll off the tongue, but it means nothing - there's no such thing as "A Bioshock". How can there be an infinite number of them?

Surely the 'Bio' part of the name refers to the genetic mutation of the citizens of Rapture/Columbia?

Yeah, that's what I was under the impression of and therefore calling this next game "BioShock" makes sense to me.

Yeah, I didn't understand his reasoning at all when Bio isn't related to aquatics.

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