Bioshock 2 was just the sequel to Bioshock. It didn't have a hype train of its own. Bioshock Infinite is a sequel and its got its own hype train.

Choo choo!

Infinite will outsell 1, and I base that on not a goddamn thing.

Edit: Oh, and you can quote me on that.

@captain_clayman said:

@ExplodeMode said:

Keep in mind that 2 sold less than 1 and launched on more platforms to bigger a installed audience. We know Irrational didn't make it, but does the average person know that or care?

They seemed to. There was very little hype or coverage of Bioshock 2, relative to Bioshock 1. A lot of the people that didn't appreciate the deeper stuff in Bioshock probably weren't interested in the sequel anyways.

For Bioshock 2, I think an appreciation for the deeper stuff hurts that game. Cause then you realize how shoehorned that game was to get a sequel out. Also if you don't appreciate the deeper stuff, then you know Bioshock's story had a definitive end and you probably didn't want to go back to Rapture.

Man...I really don't like Bioshock 2....

Oh it's going to sell.

However I worry about the game being able to rise out of the gigantic shadow cast by the original Bioshock. After all the original game had that fantastic setting and story, but the game-play wasn't anything special (plasmids aside).

For infinite to establish itself for me it needs to have setting, story, and game-play locked down and solid.

Bioshock Infinite will have a strong first week, get good reviews, good word of mouth (I hope), and Take Two will advertise the hell out of it. They have Bioshock and GTA in 2013. Look for advertising on college basketball probably. I think the sky setting will be easier to sell to crossover gamers than the creepy dark under the sea vibe the first one gave off. I also don't believe any other new title will be selling well the weeks before which can encourage gamers starved for new and different pixels to pick it up. MGR: Revengeance, Aliens: Colonial Marines, and Dead Space 3: all seem like they will underperform.

I don't know. Back at E3 and afterwards everyone seems pretty nuts about it, and then you just kind of stopped hearing about it and then it got pushed back and kind of dropped off the map a little bit. I'm still interested in it (I haven't played the other games), but I just don't know how people are going to react to it. There really hasn't been much out there once you think about it, like what, an unplayable demo and that's kind of it right?

@Zippedbinders said:

@CornBREDX said:

The first Bioshock is a horror game.

That bit got me laughing too. At about the halfway point through the first game I had a combination of plasmids that made me untouchable and I was running around like the destroyer of worlds completely forgetting that my incredibly powerful and tooled up weapons were even there. Bioshock 2 was fine, unnecessary but still a perfectly fine videogame and Infinite looks (or looked since I've gone cold on waiting for that game) to be a much more valid sequel/prequel/offshoot/thing so It'll do fine as long as they hype the release as much as they hyped the development.

I'm expecting it to sell, it looks like an excellent game, and the marketing for it has been good. I also disagree with the statement that games don't sell well any more, sales may be down from what they were at one time but if games didn't still make boatloads of money, you wouldn't see the number of AAA games getting released that still are, and Nintendo certainly wouldn't be bringing out a new console right now. As for Bioshock 2, well, there were major reasons why that thing didn't sell besides any lack of faith in the Bioshock name.

It'll be the first BioShock I buy. I borrowed both of the first two from a friend, but there's no way I'm waiting for someone to finish this before me.

Considering the sheer amount of hype surrounding this game? I think it's gonna fucking sell.

Would you kindly...buy BioShock Infinite.

@Fattony12000 said:

Would you kindly...buy BioShock Infinite.

Yes, but I'll have to kill you at the end of the game.

Yes. At least one person will buy it.

Good to see that people's arguments over BioShock 2 being a bad game still sound like the ramblings of desperate and crazy people with pro-Levine agendas =P

Probably.

Here's hoping the game sells since it's not another brown military shooter but I wonder what it takes for it to be considered selling well, maybe 1 million or 2 million. Curious what the budget for this game is.

After giving this a lot of thought.

Yes

It will ride off of the success of the original Bioshock. I see it having the same type of sales as XCOM: your "mainstream gamer" will probably pass over it but such a large percentage of "hardcore gamers" will get it that the overall sales will be good.

I was planning on buying it... so yes?

@KittyVonDoom said:

Good to see that people's arguments over BioShock 2 being a bad game still sound like the ramblings of desperate and crazy people with pro-Levine agendas =P

Yeah, the first game fell flat after a few hours where as 2 improved the combat greatly.

Best thing about the first is the intro, the rest of it is eh, ok I guess, one good twist.

I think it might get some Skyrim-esque buzz when it finally comes out. I bet some mainstream outlets will cover it and I bet it will have a pretty big marketing push. So yes, I think it will sell.

+1 copy here

They have been working on it for so long im curious how many copies they need to sell to consider it a success. I think it will sell pretty well considering all the hype for it.

@Andorski said:

It will ride off of the success of the original Bioshock. I see it having the same type of sales as XCOM: your "mainstream gamer" will probably pass over it but such a large percentage of "hardcore gamers" will get it that the overall sales will be good.

I dunno dude, is barely more than half a million sales "good" in this industry these days? Considering how much money must have gone into Bioshock infinite as opposed to XCOM.

I don't know what Skyrim did to earn such massive sales (besides being a game people have been waiting for 5 years and that turned out to be excellent) but is the bioshock name as big as TES? I know I'll be buying it, but I doubt the mainstream will embrace it :(

Marketing, marketing, marketing.

Personally I think this game will be a hard sell to everyone that's not a hardcore gamers. It's too colorful and too... strange.

Then again, I would have said the same thing about Dishonored. Good marketing can do wonderful things. And that's what it boils down to, I think. Especially since by this point everyone's known about Infinite so long that word of mouth and hype are beginning to fade.

dude waiting for Skyoshock is the equivalent of Edging to me , Gonna need a mop and bucket when that game comes out

It will sell only 50 copies and will bankrupt 2K. Kevin Levine will kill himself and all big budget games will shut down production and only casual and indie games will prevail.

yeah it will probably sell a couple copies.

@jillsandwich said:

Yes. At least one person will buy it.

AT LEAST ONE COPY SOLD!

a man chooses. a slave buys on steam.

i'm a slave.

@Alexandru said:

most games don't sell that good anymore

Generalization of the aeon

Yup, I've seen cinema and TV trailers for that game.

It's a sequel in a popular franchise, of course it will sell. Call of Duty and Halo continue to sell.

@starvinggamer: it has, but its also a better game than bioshock 2, cause it isnt just doing more of the same. It is taking alot of risks, and is very ambitious. Im waiting till the game drops down to a $40 price point, and then ill pick it up for sure. It does looks fantastic....

Not Gangbusters, but I think it will do alright.

Yeah it'll sell. All the hipsters and bro's can get behind infinite and love it.

I reckon 5 million at least. lifetime sales.

Well its gone gold so its gotta sell pretty good.

Going gold is a development term meaning version 1.0 is finished. The game code is locked down and the proverbial "Gold disk" is on its way to printing. All video games go Gold. Even terrible excrement stuff like Modern Warfare 3. Even digital only games go gold i guess.

I was being sarcastic. Remember when they said they had a BIG annocment for us and a new trailer. Turned out it was "Just going gold"

oh sorry. Sarcasm doesn't come across great in written form. I apologize for my ignorance.

We need sarcasm quotes.

It's been the top seller on steam for the last week or so and it's not even out yet. The only thing I see slowing it down is terrible reviews across the board, and I don't think that's very likely.

I think it'll do just fine, fellas.

In shops, yes.

Gold. Always believe in your soul. You've got the power to know, you're indestructible.

It will sell very well I'm sure. They have tv ads out the wazoo for this game, so many people must know about it.

Yea--I have a feeling that it will sell pretty well. Hardcore games have the potential for huge numbers (Skyrim for example) and I think that this many be one of those games that the hardcore crowd will get behind.

It is going to sell well, most likely better then the original. It is getting a huge marketing push that neither the first nor the sequel got, it has a dedicated fan base, and it is a multiplat release on day one.

If it's a good game, I don't give a fuck if it sells one copy.

Well, it better sell. After the rumours of B Infinite being one of the expensivest game in history, I just can imagine the pressure K. Levine and his team is going trough.

It will sell very much. And i am going to get this for my Mac in Summer.