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    BioWare is a game company that is currently owned by Electronic Arts (EA). It specializes in making role playing games that usually involve deep and engaging stories.

    Greg Zeschuk, Ray Muzyka Are Leaving BioWare

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    #251  Edited By Chris2KLee

    Good luck to them, sad to leave them leaving the industry for a bit. They've both been burning on all cylinders for years now, so a long break seems in order.

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    #252  Edited By jeanluc  Staff

    Their impact on the gaming industry was huge. They will be missed.

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    #253  Edited By Zripwud

    This is the worst. I HATE WORLD!

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    #254  Edited By bakumatsu

    Was expecting this to happen for a long time now. It's a shame that Bioware, once a great company known for their excellent rpgs, now is a company that lost both the trust of their fans and 2 of the greatest game creators of this industry.

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    #255  Edited By D_Man_Taylor

    I wish those guys good luck. You will be missed!

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    #256  Edited By kindgineer

    "Face of the studio"

    I guess I never found that part relevant.

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    #257  Edited By sprode

    No surprise. EA has been digging in their tentacles for years now. See ya, Bioware. Enjoy your respites, Drs.

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    #258  Edited By veektarius

    @hermes said:

    @Veektarius said:

    This may be my ignorance speaking, but what exactly do we attribute to these Doctors that is so irreplaceable? Dragon Age: Origins was old school fun without a lot of new ideas to credit to anyone, and Mass Effect is credited to Casey Hudson and Drew Karpyshyn. They don't even seem to have important credits in Kotor. So what did they do that I should be fearing for their absence?

    Mostly, they are well known figures in the industry.

    The fact they abandon a pretty well remunerated career in medicine to pursue their dream of making games (something far less common in the 90s), and they did Baldur's Gate, Neverwinter Nights and KOTOR (three of the most well regarded WRPG series of all times) cemented their reputation.

    My question is, what do you mean by "Did"? Are they programmers? Writers? Creative directors? Or did they just make use of their 'remuneration' to help fund projects that suited their tastes? I wasn't really too into the personalities back when those games were being made, but every interview I saw them on in the past 5 years, they seemed like mildly interested spokespeople at best.

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    #259  Edited By JasonR86

    This doesn't help EA's image.

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    #260  Edited By Mumrik

    Time to cash out. Wonder how long they were obligated to stay with the company after the sale...

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    #261  Edited By nightriff

    Kinda hard to say this is surprising considering rumors of this have been going around for several months. Sucks to see them leave the industry.

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    #262  Edited By beomoose

    @MattBodega said:

    Well....I guess that's the end, then.

    RIP, BioWare

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    #263  Edited By Mr_Skeleton

    :'(

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    #264  Edited By sthusby

    A sad day. I wish them all the best. It's the end of era.

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    #265  Edited By Fredchuckdave

    Critical reception for SWTOR was pretty high (85% metacritic), just like every other new MMO; the inevitable crash has nothing to do with those oft positive opinions though.

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    #266  Edited By RazielCuts

    Look what you did EA! Now put your nose in it!

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    #268  Edited By jakob187

    Not surprised. After they essentially lost control of BioWare to EA and became little more than a brand, this was a logical next step it seems.

    However, despite what kind of disaster SWTOR was/is, I still love that game.

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    #269  Edited By big_jon

    Shitty...

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    #270  Edited By viking_funeral

    @Vegetable_Side_Dish: Not that EA doesn't deserve the lion's share of blame for buying and creatively killing off almost all those studios, but they had nothing to do with 38 Studios being shut down. They only published Kingdoms of Amalur. As in, made the discs and sent out the copies through their distribution network. That's why people join EA partners, because they don't have that distribution network.

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    Not like Dr. Ray has been responsible for too much as of late. I think that BioWare does need a managerial shakeup since the media hasn't been too kind to them recently (mostly unjust).

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    #273  Edited By RoyCampbell

    Abandon ship.

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    #274  Edited By algertman

    @LegendaryChopChop said:

    Not like Dr. Ray has been responsible for too much as of late. I think that BioWare does need a managerial shakeup since the media hasn't been too kind to them recently (mostly unjust).

    Are you serious? I've seen gaming sites attack anyone who dare speak against Bioware during the whole Mass Effect 3 backlash.

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    @algertman said:

    @LegendaryChopChop said:

    Not like Dr. Ray has been responsible for too much as of late. I think that BioWare does need a managerial shakeup since the media hasn't been too kind to them recently (mostly unjust).

    Are you serious? I've seen gaming sites attack anyone who dare speak against Bioware during the whole Mass Effect 3 backlash.

    I would like to see these sites.

    I post on the BioWare Social Network and it's the most negative place on earth. I've seen negativity on here, IGN... what place are you talking about?

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    #276  Edited By brydello

    Really sucks to hear. I love the BioWare bros.

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    #277  Edited By viking_funeral

    @Brodehouse said:

    Yeah, but Casey Hudson, James Ohlen, David Gaider, Mike Laidlaw, the guys who had creative positions at BioWare, the leaders on the games you love, they're still there.

    You tell me James Ohlen is leaving to start his own studio, now I'm interested.

    All the best to the Doctors in their quest to make homemade beer and hustle fools at poker.

    Oh, Mike Laidlaw is still around. Thank goodness. After all, the creative mind behind Dragon Age 2, and the man who worked a little bit on Jade Empire and Sonic Chronicles, is truly the kind of creative genius that will save BioWare now that they're making Command & Conquer games.

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    #278  Edited By algertman

    When they left what color ending did they pick to end their Bioware career with?

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    #279  Edited By Trilogy

    Whaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaat the fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuck...

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    #280  Edited By Rawson

    Good riddance. Now all that's left is for everyone else to be let go/absorbed, their assets liquidated, and for all their IPs to be left rotting in archives where it belongs.

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    #281  Edited By MildMolasses

    I just read a tweet from Ben Fritz pointing out that it's been five years ago this month that EA bought bioware, so they're contracts just may be up. They were in charge of a lot more than just a single studio out of Edmonton, and maybe that's just a lot more than they really wanted out of the deal. Also, the last 2 years haven't been great for them, and with a $200 million project going in directions they never planned, it's hard not to see why maybe they don't want to do this anymore. And it would explain why they are going out at the same time. It's also possible that with the way EA's stock has been going, that there is going to be a big shakeup of executives, and this is just the start of things to come.

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    #282  Edited By MildMolasses

    God damnit I hate commenting from an iPad, with it's inability to edit posts

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    #283  Edited By tourgen

    Well I hope EA got some good people to take their place. DA3 and ME4 could be cool with some new ideas and some risk taking.

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    #284  Edited By NemeanOtter

    Damn. One hopes for the best, but damn.

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    I blame TOR. I really think dealing with EA and the complications of TOR post release killed their souls for the industry.

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    #286  Edited By kingofpeanuts

    EA claims another one.

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    #287  Edited By DjCmeP

    @algertman said:

    When they left what color ending did they pick to end their Bioware career with?

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    #288  Edited By AlexW00d

    @pbhawks45 said:

    @AlexW00d said:

    Didn't this happen some months ago?

    E: Also what's the point in replacing the and with a comma? Such a lazy trend in news articles.

    That's called AP Style. What's with people bitching without knowing what the fuck they're talking about? Such a lazy trend in internet commenting.

    If I knew, I wouldn't mention it would I? No need to be a cunt.

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    #289  Edited By GalacticPunt

    @MattBodega said:

    Well....I guess that's the end, then.

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    #290  Edited By hagridore

    My fan speculation is BioWare's growth (plus their fake expansions through EA rebranding studios) was a bit much for them.

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    #291  Edited By Enigma777
    @AlexW00d

    @pbhawks45 said:

    @AlexW00d said:

    Didn't this happen some months ago?

    E: Also what's the point in replacing the and with a comma? Such a lazy trend in news articles.

    That's called AP Style. What's with people bitching without knowing what the fuck they're talking about? Such a lazy trend in internet commenting.

    If I knew, I wouldn't mention it would I? No need to be a cunt.

    Don't worry. AP style is a bunch of outdated nonsense anyways.
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    #292  Edited By ShaneDev

    Seems like they stayed on for contractual reasons and are now ready to leave. They are entrepreneurs and investors who formed a company to make money which it did and they sold it for a ton of money and secured its future. I can see why they got out but I seriously doubt if this actually effects the quality of the games they make.

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    #293  Edited By Grimhild

    @Veektarius said:

    @hermes said:

    @Veektarius said:

    This may be my ignorance speaking, but what exactly do we attribute to these Doctors that is so irreplaceable? Dragon Age: Origins was old school fun without a lot of new ideas to credit to anyone, and Mass Effect is credited to Casey Hudson and Drew Karpyshyn. They don't even seem to have important credits in Kotor. So what did they do that I should be fearing for their absence?

    Mostly, they are well known figures in the industry.

    The fact they abandon a pretty well remunerated career in medicine to pursue their dream of making games (something far less common in the 90s), and they did Baldur's Gate, Neverwinter Nights and KOTOR (three of the most well regarded WRPG series of all times) cemented their reputation.

    My question is, what do you mean by "Did"? Are they programmers? Writers? Creative directors? Or did they just make use of their 'remuneration' to help fund projects that suited their tastes? I wasn't really too into the personalities back when those games were being made, but every interview I saw them on in the past 5 years, they seemed like mildly interested spokespeople at best.

    I've always wondered the same thing. As great a sales pitch as they make, and a sort of quasi-uncle-gamer vibe they have, I've never been all that sure what they do exactly other than help fund the projects, and as such never held them responsible for the successes or failures of BioWare. Ergo, I'm not really moved by their decision. If anything, I'm amused with their weird choices of future endeavors, being "doctors" and everything. Impact investing and beer? Awesome! I guess?

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    #294  Edited By NipCrip66

    Well done EA. You managed to grind your finest talent into the ground.

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    #295  Edited By wisdumcube

    We've lost another one. A moment of silence for a once beloved studio, please... Thank you.

    Life lesson: never sell out to EA. Never. Ever. Ever.

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    #296  Edited By chilibean_3

    @AlexW00d said:

    @pbhawks45 said:

    @AlexW00d said:

    Didn't this happen some months ago?

    E: Also what's the point in replacing the and with a comma? Such a lazy trend in news articles.

    That's called AP Style. What's with people bitching without knowing what the fuck they're talking about? Such a lazy trend in internet commenting.

    If I knew, I wouldn't mention it would I? No need to be a cunt.

    You added in "Such a lazy trend in news articles". You weren't earnestly asking for an explanation.

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    #297  Edited By JJOR64

    @Hailinel said:

    @JJOR64

    Glad they are leaving and hopefully they will start a new studio together.

    It sounds more like they're done with the industry.

    That's poopy. Would love to see them do something completely new.

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    #298  Edited By AhmadMetallic

    @Make_Me_Mad said:

    I think the only really unexpected part here is that they're retiring from the Game industry altogether. When Zeschuk says he has no more passion for the business, you have to wonder what kind of soul-devouring happens at EA.

    bam

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    #299  Edited By poisonjam7

    That's too bad...but I understand how Dr. Z feels. I've been going through a bit of that myself recently. Games are losing their allure for me. Probably due to the fact that everything is a sequel and nobody wants to try anything new or different. The industry is going to stagnate and die if no-one wants to, or can do anything original.

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    #300  Edited By Hailinel
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    @AlexW00d

    @pbhawks45 said:

    @AlexW00d said:

    Didn't this happen some months ago?

    E: Also what's the point in replacing the and with a comma? Such a lazy trend in news articles.

    That's called AP Style. What's with people bitching without knowing what the fuck they're talking about? Such a lazy trend in internet commenting.

    If I knew, I wouldn't mention it would I? No need to be a cunt.

    Don't worry. AP style is a bunch of outdated nonsense anyways.
    No, it's not.

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