Posting On Blizzard Forums Will Soon Require Real ID

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#1 Posted by KaosAngel (13765 posts) -
Link to the story 
 
Gentlemen (and Ladies), 
 
As some of you who play WoW (lol) and future SC2, D3, WC4 players, already know...Battle.net 2.0 requires a Real ID which uses your real name.  You can make a sub ID in-game as well but the Real ID stays with you with all Blizzard games. 
 
To start posting on the forums you need to use your Real ID, and who knows what that will bring forth in the future of their games. 
 
I got no opinion.  As many of you know, I post on LiveDoor and 2channel often so when I want to be "self-destructive" or post crap, I end up going there.  Still!  At least now we'll find out who's trolling on the SC2 channels and whatnot!   
 
The price of streamlining  the community has shown it's full weight, and it'll just snowball from there. 
 
Any thoughts on this, and how it can change the way we look at the PC and console online community? 
 
Side Note - Dunno where to put it, so I put it in general.  >.>
#2 Posted by ErrorOperator (458 posts) -

Blizzard are attempting to do what Valve did and combine all their games into one service, with social additions aswell. If there is any PC developer with any chance of replicating this well... it HAS to be Blizzard.

#3 Posted by BabyChooChoo (4277 posts) -

Seems like a perfectly fine idea to me. I can't imagine why someone would have to use a fake name anyway.

#4 Posted by TooWalrus (13135 posts) -

I don't mind. In fact, I like knowing exactly who I'm talking too.

#5 Posted by Andrela (621 posts) -

Whats stopping people from not using their real names?  

Seems a bit intrusive but its only a name after all, I admire Blizzard for trying to establish actual communitys for their games. 
 
I wonder if this will mean I wont be banned on the wow forums anymore...

#6 Posted by Rinkalicous (1339 posts) -

I'd love an internet where everyone has to use their real names. Stops jackasses and trolls pretty effectively, as they'd be labelled as idiots wherever they went.

#7 Posted by DeathbyYeti (742 posts) -

 Oh well I do not go to that site or use their forums but it could spread to other sites which I am not okay with.  I rather not let the Blizzard forums know my name.

#8 Posted by Matthew (1911 posts) -

No problems here.  I'm fine with using my name.  Hey, look at that!  My name is my name here on Giant Bomb!! 
Although I do wonder how they're going to enforce it...I mean, am I allowed to say I'm Brad Pitt?  How are they going to prove you're you . . .

#9 Edited by JoshLarson (68 posts) -

Why stop there? Why not just include your address and phone number alongside your name? That would help facilitate the real world trouble that will be a direct consequence of this potentially disastrous course of action. My question is, all of you people who say they don't have a problem with using real world names only, why aren't you using your real name now for Giant Bomb? If it is so desirable then why aren't you already doing it?
#10 Posted by TheAdmin (711 posts) -
@Rinkalicous said:
" I'd love an internet where everyone has to use their real names. "
Then why didn't you use your real name when you picked a name here? 
#11 Posted by Sjupp (1910 posts) -
@99X said:
" @Rinkalicous said:
" I'd love an internet where everyone has to use their real names. "
Then why didn't you use your real name when you picked a name here?  "
Rinkalicious is ultimately the better name.
#12 Posted by Jeust (10473 posts) -

Next move: Credit card required!

#13 Posted by RsistncE (4496 posts) -

As soon as a company expects me to surrender real life information which the entire community of fucktards can see, they can count on me not buying their product.

#14 Posted by heatDrive88 (2267 posts) -
@Sjupp said:
" @99X said:
" @Rinkalicous said:
" I'd love an internet where everyone has to use their real names. "
Then why didn't you use your real name when you picked a name here?  "
Rinkalicious is ultimately the better name. "

The idea of an avatar name or a username is at the base, a method to take name duplication out of the question. Creativity and a mask to your real identity is merely an afterthought and added convenience. 
 
I also like the idea of Blizzard doing this though. Liek many other posters have said, it adds more accountability to your identity, something that the internet does a really good job of hiding and masking.
#15 Posted by Hitchenson (4682 posts) -

Seems pretty unnecessary to me, then again, why anyone in their right mind would post on the Blizzard forums is beyond me.

#16 Posted by RsistncE (4496 posts) -

I don't understand how people can say they're ok with this. You are aware of how easy it is to find out where someone is living once they have your name right? What if some guy who holds some grudge against you on the forums/game decides to track you down and do some real life damage? I'm sorry, but if a company decides they don't want me to be AnonymousTrollMage #39583 then they can go fuck themselves because there's no way in hell I'm giving them information about my real life to share with all the weirdos on the internet.

#17 Posted by Faint (833 posts) -

so how far is this going? is it just people being able to see your first name? or will they know things like how old you are as well. if that's the case im not so sure about it, as i dont think the youngens should be copping flack just for being young, which i could see happening. maybe it should be you only give your real details if you are 18+?

#18 Posted by The_Laughing_Man (13629 posts) -
@PrimeSynergy said:
" Seems like a perfectly fine idea to me. I can't imagine why someone would have to use a fake name anyway. "
Cause WoW forums are 90% trolling. And people are gonna be upset when they gotta use their real name. 
#19 Posted by Marz (5642 posts) -

at least this will weed out the forum trolls on the blizzard forums.

#20 Posted by adoggz (2038 posts) -

what Blizzard should do next is require everyone who wants to play their games go to Blizzard HQ and submit to a back round check and a DNA test to verify their identity, then Blizzard can implant a chip with a unique ID into them so that everyone playing Blizzard games can know who they are wherever they are.

#21 Posted by Dipstick (547 posts) -
@RsistncE said:
" I don't understand how people can say they're ok with this. You are aware of how easy it is to find out where someone is living once they have your name right? What if some guy who holds some grudge against you on the forums/game decides to track you down and do some real life damage? I'm sorry, but if a company decides they don't want me to be AnonymousTrollMage #39583 then they can go fuck themselves because there's no way in hell I'm giving them information about my real life to share with all the weirdos on the internet. "
Why would someone hold a grudge with you if you don't troll them? 
 
The whole purpose of this is to deter trolling,seems like it might actually work.
#22 Edited by heatDrive88 (2267 posts) -
@RsistncE said:

"As soon as a company expects me to surrender real life information which the entire community of fucktards can see, they can count on me not buying their product."

 
Whoa whoa, hold on. I better clarify the situation before everyone starts getting the wrong idea. 

You're maybe taking this way out of context - Participating on their forums is also entirely optional, and the having a 'Real ID' is also completely optional. You can still buy and play Blizzard games without even having opting-in to the Real ID, and you can go along completely anonymous to the public as you normally would. So far, you only really would require a Real ID if you want to post on the official Blizzard forums, which really isn't worth a lot of people's time anyways.   
 
All they are asking for is the display of your first and last name to post on their forums, there won't be any other bits of your 'real life' information to be presented unless (I assume) you opt-out of some privacy settings to show more public information out of your profile, just like any other forum. 
#23 Posted by heatDrive88 (2267 posts) -
@adoggz said:
"what Blizzard should do next is require everyone who wants to play their games go to Blizzard HQ and submit to a back round check and a DNA test to verify their identity, then Blizzard can implant a chip with a unique ID into them so that everyone playing Blizzard games can know who they are wherever they are. "

Again.... read my last post.
#24 Posted by adoggz (2038 posts) -
@heatDrive88: 
*Woosh*
#25 Posted by Meteora (5787 posts) -

At first this seems like a bad idea to me, but now I'm starting to think its a good idea. 
 
I probably trust Blizzard a hell lot more with my ID than some other sites.

#26 Posted by heatDrive88 (2267 posts) -

That being said, the Real ID thing seems like a decent addition for games themselves. All it does it add some more community functionality for people on your friends list (and it's scope is limited to only people on your friends list, nobody else). The forums thing is maybe a bit funny, but it's not the big privacy faux-pas that some people seem to be building this up to be.
#27 Posted by ZombiePie (5580 posts) -

This forum topic made me realize that I have never played a game made by Blizzard.

Moderator
#28 Posted by zudthespud (3281 posts) -

People don't act the same way when the aren't anonymous. It might be a good thing, it might be a bad thing. All we can say is it will be different.

#29 Posted by heatDrive88 (2267 posts) -
@adoggz:
Haha, I'm aware of the sarcasm, it's just that a good chunk of people seem to think that this is all becoming mandatory for everything Blizzard related when it's not.
#30 Posted by heatDrive88 (2267 posts) -
@ZombiePie said:

"This forum topic made me realize that I have never played a game made by Blizzard. "


 DO IT.
 
#31 Posted by alternate (2682 posts) -

I don't think this means no screen names - just that your account has to be verified with real ID so they know who you are if they have to ban you for acting a dick or if you do something illegal / post something libelous.
 
On one hand it goes a bit far.  On the other hand, should be the most troll free forums ever.

#32 Posted by SJSchmidt93 (4884 posts) -

Blizzard's trying their best to attach an awful service to a great game.

#33 Posted by KaosAngel (13765 posts) -
@heatDrive88 said:
" @RsistncE said:

"As soon as a company expects me to surrender real life information which the entire community of fucktards can see, they can count on me not buying their product."

 
and the having a 'Real ID' is also completely optional.  "
That be wrong.  SC2 Beta even required your main Blizzard ID be your Real ID, you NEED a Real ID to even use Blizzard games and future Blizzard games now.  
#34 Edited by heatDrive88 (2267 posts) -
@KaosAngel said:

"That be wrong.  SC2 Beta even required your main Blizzard ID be your Real ID, you NEED a Real ID to even use Blizzard games and future Blizzard games now.   "


Really? That's kinda fucked. I got the idea it was entirely optionally when I read about the service from their website: http://us.battle.net/realid/?rhtml=y     
 
Also quoted from their site: 
"Real ID is a completely voluntary and optional level of identity that keeps players connected across all of Battle.net " 
 
I didn't see anything on their site saying Real ID was required for any sort of service. That's awfully suspect.
#35 Posted by Webby (720 posts) -
@KaosAngel said:
As some of you who play WoW (lol) 
+1
#36 Posted by KaosAngel (13765 posts) -
@heatDrive88 said:
" @KaosAngel said:

"That be wrong.  SC2 Beta even required your main Blizzard ID be your Real ID, you NEED a Real ID to even use Blizzard games and future Blizzard games now.   "


Really? That's kinda fucked. I got the idea it was entirely optionally when I read about the service from their website: http://us.battle.net/realid/?rhtml=y      Also quoted from their site: "Real ID is a completely voluntary and optional level of identity that keeps players connected across all of Battle.net "  I didn't see anything on their site saying Real ID was required for any sort of service. That's awfully suspect. "
Well, you can keep it hidden and NOT SHARE IT, but you NEED to set up a Real ID.  It's the only way to even get into the SC2 Beta.  Most WoW or Blizzard users have it already if you go to Battle.net, you can redownload all your games and whatnot.  That's your Real ID. 
 
In SC2, you NEED to log in with your Real ID but you don't need to share friends with the Real ID and are given a "Nick", my Real ID is my real name and my SC2 ID is kaosangel.kaosangel, I only need to share my kaosangel so no one finds out my Real ID. 
 
Real ID friends are only supposed to be for real life friends.
#37 Posted by PMoney (8 posts) -

I was for it in the beginning but looking at it from a more professional perspective, if potential employers search your name before an interview and the first thing that shows up is that you play a lot of blizzard games, that could negatively impact your ability to get that job. I understand this may not happen with most employers but is it worth taking that risk.

#38 Edited by KaosAngel (13765 posts) -
@PMoney: That would be pretty funny, your future boss plays SC2 or D3....and he saw your name before posting on the forums, and how much epic loot you have.  Hah, at least then you can legally put it on a resume! 
 
Pro at getting loot, APM 200+, and all Purple Gear. 
 
EDIT:  It would be even more hilarious if the two of you were on the same WoW server and you keep killing him, and then brag about owning this "noob" on the forums.  The boss sees your name when you come into the interview.  Oh man, that would be some good stuff.
#39 Posted by Diamond (8634 posts) -

I just worry about the potential security problems that opens up.  Way more hacking incidents incoming, for sure.  Lots of people don't keep the rest of their personal private information secure, and a full name can be enough to get the rest.

#40 Posted by Vao (324 posts) -

I've screwed around with the real ID stuff that is live in wow right now and it isn't bad, how it works is your normal friends list is there but on top of that you can enter your real friends email that is their sign in name for the battle.net account. once you add that friend they have to accept it on their end then you can see what game and details about that game. the trick is their name in the friends list is the name that is on the battle.net account, the full name "John Doe". the normal friend list features are there but this stuff is on top of that.  
 
I'm lovin this idea. the thought of fewer troll threads on an official game forum is a tempting thought, no more trolls making a pointless argument and backing himself up by posting on other characters on that same account. PLUS, think of all the teenagers who's account is under a parents name.  some bad mouthed kid on a forums talking crap under the name "Sally" 

#41 Edited by 71Ranchero (2675 posts) -

They are doing it to "fix" or atleast try to fix the horrible troll and flame war issues that ruin the Blizzard forums. Im all for it, people are less likely to be dicks when they cant hide behind a level 1 alt. Hell, lets get that on GB. I would gladly use my name on here(because Im not paranoid and I also dont act different from how I do offline).

#42 Posted by Kahoona (223 posts) -

What's going to happen the first time someone tracks down a forum member using the person's first and last name posted on the forums?  If 4chan can do it, anybody can.  I also feel sorry for the female forum members considering this is basically a soft ban on them unless they want to risk harassment by other people.  What people don't realize is ANYBODY can look at the forums...that's the problem, not people being held accountable for their actions.  And people saying "Don't like it?  Don't post!" forget that the technical support boards are also attached to these forums so good luck troubleshooting things.

#43 Posted by Cataphract1014 (1313 posts) -
@Kahoona said:

" What's going to happen the first time someone tracks down a forum member using the person's first and last name posted on the forums?  If 4chan can do it, anybody can.  I also feel sorry for the female forum members considering this is basically a soft ban on them unless they want to risk harassment by other people.  What people don't realize is ANYBODY can look at the forums...that's the problem, not people being held accountable for their actions.  And people saying "Don't like it?  Don't post!" forget that the technical support boards are also attached to these forums so good luck troubleshooting things. "

Technical support and customer support.  If you've ever tried to call blizzard, you know that this can be one of the only ways to effectively get help on issues.  In 3 weeks, the only way to use those for starcraft 2 is to have your name revealed to the whole world.  Seems like a stupid idea to me.  I have no problem with Real-ID itself, since Blizzards own FAQ states that it is  " a system designed to be used with people you know and trust in real life -- friends, co-workers and family -- "  So in order to use any of their forums, you have to trust EVERYONE on the internet.
 
Dumb change, IMO.
#44 Posted by Gabriel (4055 posts) -

Introducing accountability to the internet, it's about time.

#45 Posted by ShiftyMagician (2129 posts) -
@Gabriel said:
" Introducing accountability to the internet, it's about DAMN time. "
Couldn't resist.
#46 Posted by Kombat (2205 posts) -

This definitely struck me as a bit intrusive when I first read it, but after giving it some time to settle I really don't see the problem.  Hopefully this will weed out all of the ridiculous trolling that goes on over there, tough I doubt it; some people just aren't going to care.  Anyone legitimately concerned about their privacy can simply stay away from the forums.  There's no reason to go there anyway, unless you want to be trolled or need to catch up on the latest blue posts.  The latter of those doesn't require any posting, so hey, problem solved.

#47 Posted by Gabriel (4055 posts) -
@zudthespud said:
" People don't act the same way when the aren't anonymous. It might be a good thing, it might be a bad thing. All we can say is it will be different. "
One step closer to this 
 
  
#48 Posted by PufferFiz (1376 posts) -

Good, gets rid of the trolls.

#49 Posted by SoothsayerGB (1468 posts) -

 
I have zero issue with this.  I will still be trolling their forums with anonymity and I hope the people reading them.  Have fun trying to pronounce my name.  I would never talk with most of that community in real life.  They are the worst gaming community out there. 
 
But this wont really stop that anyway.  Since most WoW trolls are at a point of insanity.  From playing the same game for over 5 years.
 
IMO, I see this as a financial move.  WoW's popularity has been waning for a while now.  The devs are just doing what they do best.  Trying to keep people addicted to a shitty fuckcluster of a game.  Because they know that the second something new comes out, everyone we go pay for that instead.  
 
I am sure that all the FFIV trailers and chatter have nothing to do with this move.  ;  )   
 
 

 
 
Time for a next gen. MMO.  
 
 
#50 Posted by iam3green (14390 posts) -

so why do that? if they really wanted to get trolls and flamwars out they can just banned people. this could be a bad identity theft could happen from that. there are people that steal people's accounts in games like WoW. it could lead to identity theft from seeing the person's name.

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