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Added by Undeadpool on Sept. 19, 2009

Videogaming (a friend of mine is trying to stop the word "gamer" from being used anymore. Long story) is at an interesting crossroad that all forms of popular media have come to at some point: straddling the line between an accepted mainstream artform and something that politicians from both sides of the spectrum want to burn in effigy for corrupting the youth of America, who everyone knows has no capacity to think for itself. It's happened a few times with more books than I can count (look up a banned book list on any search engine and prepare to be surprised),  all different kinds of music (metal and rap most recently, but basically every form of music has been crusaded against at some point), movies are still choking under the yoke of the MPAA, and TV still has to contend with censorship on a daily basis, though the grip is slackening. Videogaming just showed up the party, and guess what? It's already got six drinks in it. Videogames present an interesting problem to the debate: interactivity. This is Roger Ebert's argument as to why they can't be considered true "art" forms: because the user interacts with and changes it, it's not truly art. I don't agree with this contention one little bit not only for the fact that I've seen art exhibits that allow audience participation, but there's only so much a user can do to "alter" a videogame while playing it. You'll never be able to make Marcus Fenix soar over the battlefield on the back of a pegasus raining down fireballs from a sword. But I'm preaching to the choir, and I won't lie it's a good feeling, but I have another point: one of the biggest hurdles is from within. It's us not taking the medium seriously, even on a sub-conscious level.

I was watching a review for a game on Zero Punctuation when the reviewer made the fascinating point of the community getting SO excited when someone from the mainstream gets involved, even peripherally, with a videogame. Now whether or not you like Zero Punctuation is irrelevant, I think the point is an incredibly good one. Why DO we fawn over people who don't work with videogames when they come and make a game? Why do we, as the reviewer put it, "Say 'oh YES Mr. Bigshot movie producer! Come down to the filthy masses and show us how it's done!'" This art form has been around for well over thirty years, mostly without help from outside sources, so why is there this hero-worship when a game comes out that has Stephen Spielberg as an executive producer?

Quick: what's one of the first comments about any hot new game sure to show up in the forums within 24 hours of the game's release and vindication of quality? No, not lewd comments about whatever female character is in it, "I'd love for them to make this into a movie." Why? Videogames have, historically, made atrocious movies. There hasn't been a single one of actual quality with the possible exception of Silent Hill (Mortal Kombat doesn't count because, while it was a fun movie, it's not a "good" movie). Metal Gear Solid is the one I hear talked about most and it's also the one I find most puzzling. I love this series, I've loved it since the first PS1 game, but the game is HEAVY on the cinematics, so why would one want to see an inferior version, most likely starring an actor no one wants to play the character, with a script that's been passed around like a dutchie 'pon the left hand side so many times, to so many different people who've probably never even heard of the game, that by the end it's called Metallic Cog Mercurial and stars Chris Kattan as the WACKIEST secret agent this side of the RUSTY CURTAIN! (rated PG-13)? 

I think it's because deep down a lot of us are still waiting for something to come along and make gaming OK for mainstream acceptance. Like what the one-two combo of the X-Men and Spider-Man movies did for comic books (with Blade being the lead-in), but comic books lend themselves more naturally to being adapted to the big screen, and even those movies didn't get REALLY good until very recently. So I think we need to bring gaming to the mainstream ourselves. Games like Bioshock are a great step in the right direction because they have incredible artistic vision as well as a satirical, philosophical plotline. In short: it has depth. That's what people look for in art: depth and that's what so many games lack. I'm not saying EVERY game needs to become Bioshock in order for us as a community to progress beyond what we are, I'm saying that we shouldn't let someone on the outside ride in like a white knight and redeem something that doesn't even need redeeming. We should solve our own problems by supporting games that actually try something daring and dynamic and even by trying to hold these games up as counter-examples rather than simply shouting at the top of our lungs about how artsy games can be.



Added by demontium on Sept. 6, 2009

10. Zack and Wiki
9. Boom Blox
8. No More Heroes
7. Wii Sports Resort 
6. The Legend of Zelda: Twilight Princess.
5. Super Smash Brothers Brawl 
4. Super Paper Mario
3. Metroid Prime 3
2. World of Goo
1. Super Mario Galaxy


Added by Dalai on Dec. 15, 2008

So the VGAs... yeah.  My thoughts on the winners.

  • Studio of the Year (Media Molecule) - I was happy to see a newcomer like Media Molecule get the nod... well deserved.
  • Best Shooter (Gears of War 2) - No quarrels here.
  • Best RPG (Fallout 3) - It's not a pure RPG, but it was the best of the nominees.
  • Best Fighting Game (Soul Calibur IV) - I would've gone with Super Smash Bros. Brawl... Snake and Sonic are much cooler than Yoda and Vader.
  • Best Individual Sports Game (Shaun White Snowboarding) - Sure, whatever.
  • Best Handheld Game (Professor Layton and the Curious Village) - This one was a toss-up... you can make a case for any of the 4 choices.
  • Best Graphics (Metal Gear Solid 4: Guns of the Patriots) - I thought LittleBigPlanet was more pleasing on the eyes.
  • Best Game Based on a Movie or TV Show (Lego Indiana Jones) - Meh, also whatever.
  • Best Music Game (Rock Band 2) - High five, Alex Navarro!
  • Best Driving Game (Burnout Paradise) - Probably the best choice for this category.
  • Best Action Adventure Game (Grand Theft Auto IV) - No contest, in my opinion.
  • Best Team Sports Game (NHL 09) - Sports games, eww.
  • Best Soundtrack (Rock Band 2) - Seems unfair for a music game to win this, but it was the best.
  • Best Xbox 360 Game (Gears of War 2) - Braid not nominated?  That would've been my winner.
  • Best Wii Game (Boom Blox) - Kind of a weird choice... Brawl or No More Heroes should've won and World of Goo should've been in the running.
  • Best PlayStation 3 Game (LittleBigPlanet) - We're in agreement.
  • Best PC Game (Left 4 Dead) - As long as it wasn't Spore, I was satisfied.
  • Best Original Score (Metal Gear Solid 4: Guns of the Patriots) - My picks weren't even nominated so meh.
  • Best Multi-player game (Left 4 Dead) - Seems like the clear choice.
  • Best Performance by a Human Male (Michael Hollick as "Niko Bellic") - Best performance this generation, perhaps?
  • Best Performance by a Human Female (Debi Mae West as "Meryl Silverburgh") - I guess, but I was pulling for Paula Tiso... awesome as Sylvia Christel.
  • Big Name in the Game Male (Kiefer Sutherland as "Sgt. Roebuck") - Jack Bauer should win every year.
  • Big Name in the Game Female (Jenny McCarthy as "Tanya") - If going by hotness, I would've gone with Eliza Dushku.
  • Best Independent Game Fueled by Dew (World of Goo) - Hate the Dew, love World of Goo and was my choice, but Braid and Audiosurf deserve some praise.

So I ended up agreeing with many of the winners, even if some of the awards are bullshit (Big Name in the Game, Movie or TV Show Based Game.)  Oh well, I'm hoping for a more legitimate awards ceremony instead of the celebrity asshatery that occurs.

So what awards matter to me the most?  My personal game awards... coming in January!


Added by Pangster007 on Dec. 11, 2008

You may have noticed i haven't really been active on GS at all - in Unions, System Wars, blogging or user reviews. Inversely: my time spent going through my backlog of games have increased, tremendously.

I don't know when i'll start resuming reviews but for now i've just rated the games i've completed. If anyone would like to read my review of a particular game in my recently rated games list, don't hesitate to ask - i'll consider wirting it.

Anyway, here's a "small" update on game related things;

Guilty Gear was an excellent price of £5, about the price of a simple takeaway meal.
I have opened all but Trauma Center at the moment.
Played through RE: UC co op - very good game within its genre.
Ghost Squad completed single and co op - Average. Worth picking up on the cheap.
Link's Crossbow Training, yet to finish all missions - Good value with 'gun', challenging.
Metroid Prime 3 - Stunning environments, some aspects were underwhelming.
Playing through Okami right now - simply beautiful.
Finally fiinished Sub Space Emissary in Super Smash Bros Brawl...*uh hum*...
Half Life 2: Episode 2 was excellent, it's right up there with HL2.
Completed Luigi's Mansion in around 2 days (between work, sleep) - Very good, but very short.
I'm also playing through Resident Evil Zero on the GC. Very good so far...

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2 New games i got in the last 2 days: Mario Kart Wii and Boom Blox.

Mario Kart Wii was very good, i've only played through 3 cups in 50CC, all with just the steering wheel. I've yet to try online, Wiimote + Nunchuck, Gamecube Controller.
I haven't tried Boom Blox yet, i'll give it a go once i've done these 2 things - complete Final Fantasy IV DS (very almost there), and Bioshock PC (just about nearing the end).



Added by bossman on Dec. 3, 2008

After an impromptu break, we come back out fighting. Jason joins the survivors in the fight to not be, Left 4 Dead and makes a game winning shot from downtown in NBA 2K9. Steven gets drafted by the Cog army in Gears of War 2 and discovers the fun of playing Uno on Xbox Live. In the news from the last three weeks, PETA declares war on Majesco's Cooking Mama, the NXE update froze many a system, and Square Enix has at last set up a studio in the US. Plus, we kick off our biggest contest yet with some great prizes. Listen to the last 20 minutes of the show for details.


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Added by Vigorousjammer on Aug. 28, 2008

"Royale with cheese. They use the metric system, they don't know what the fuck a quater pounder is."


So, yeah, as you may have all noticed, that quote is from Pulp Fiction. I watched it again recently... really great movie... I think if they tried to make a game based on it nowadays it might actually work... I dunno about 1997, when the movie came out, but nowadays seems entirely plausible...

They could do it half-adventure game, half-action/shooter...
What do you guys think? would a Pulp Fiction video game work or not?

Anyways, let me respond to...

The Question of the Day


Does Nintendo's Statement in Edge Magazine about it's new "Core" games being two to three years away make you want to sell your Wii, or are you going to wait and see how this all pans out?


I'm gonna wait... My Wii has been collecting dust for a while now... the last game I played on it was Boom Blox, and that was around mid-June... I think there's still gonna be some interesting third party titles coming out... but the biggest reason is... I don't feel like having to re-buy my Wii again 2-3 years down the road... I'm content with it as it is, and I can keep playing my 360 until these "core" games come out.

That leads me onto my next topic...

What i've Been Playing


So, I downloaded Castle Crashers and I've been playing that all day... Definitely my top pick out of all the games released this month on XBLA... The game is just so excellently structured... you've got your standard overworld map, you've got hidden characters, your light RPG elements. and then you have the wonderful art style... all the subtle references to other classic brawlers, like the fight for the princess after a boss fight when playing co-op... totally Double Dragon. All of the rideable creatures... totally Golden Axe. Really, the entire game feels like is should have came out mid-90's, and that's not a bad thing... Actually, it feels a lot like Medieval River City Ransom.  I think I might make Castle Crashers the first game I'll do a User Review for on Giant Bomb.  So look forward to that once I finish the game.

So, speaking of the 90's, I've also recently found out about DOSBox.  What a wonderful emulator.  I managed to play Shadow Warrior with sound! And Duke3D ran like a charm!  Oh, and now I can load up Wolfenstein 3D. Ah, it feels so nice to be able to play Wolf3d again. Ever since WinXP came out, I thought I wouldn't be able to play any Build Engine games ever again! Fortunately, now I can, and many other fine DOS games.

Well, before I leave, I just want to ask you guys what you think of my new format... do you guys think I should continue to seperate things with titles like this, or do you think I should just write it up like I have been?  Post some responses in the comments.


Added by TWODOGSz on July 22, 2008


WTF is with the tags above?!


Poor E3, it may not be dead and buried but it's definitely got one foot stuck in the grave!
Poor E3, it may not be dead and buried but it's definitely got one foot stuck in the grave!







Anyways as my first little tid-bit of gaming goodness I thought I'd draw your attention to our earlier E3 coverage over at XboxOZ360, particularly what we wanted to see at E3, but for the most part we didn't... Although we did pick the Final Fantasy shocker! ;)

Why the plug? Well there are four key reasons:

1) It's more exciting and entertaining than anything at the slowly dying E3!
2) It's better than any other lists out there because we justify our choices. Each Top 10 is around the 2000 word mark!
3) It'll get the fanboys into all kinds of convoluted flaming and illogical arguments... See the third list below as it should now read Top 9 (thankyou Square!). ;)
4) I'm a shameless promoter, who whores himself out without a moment's regret.
 
Enjoy and make your voices heard. :)

Top 10 Confirmed 360 Exclusives @ E3 '08 - What made the Top 10? And how do we rate the big hitters in Gears 2, Fable 2, Halo Wars and Banjo Kazooie.

Top 10 Unconfirmed 360 Exclusives @ E3 ' 08 - How did we come up with 10? And where does Bungie, Rockstar, a fugitive and someone Wake-ing up fit in?

Top 10 Exclusives We'd Steal for the 360 @ E3 '08 - Every platform has great exclusives, which ones would we steal from the PS3, Wii & PC if given half a chance?

Top 10 Multiplatform Titles @ E3 '08 - Who's got the Edge? Who's had a Fallout? And are we Good... or Evil? Or why should we love EA, Ubisoft and Capcom?

Top 10 360 Hardware & Xbox Live @ E3 '08 - We nailed this one... Errr except for the Newton! But it's best just to ignore that (like I have) and see how right we were! :P


Is This The First Teaser For Kane & Lynch 2?
Do I look like I read German?
No Doubt Gets Cobain'd, Files Lawsuit Over Band Hero
Band "bitterly disappointed," Activision "believes it is within its legal rights."
The End of N-Gage
Special interview with the world's leading N-Gage enthusiast inside!
Go Watch Captain N (Actually, Go Watch Pole Position)
New cartoon site launches with plenty of awful third-tier cartoons for on-demand viewing.
Netflix PS3 Discs Start Shipping
Watch your e-mail boxes... and then I guess watch your mailboxes, too.
Garrus Returns! And Other Secrets About Mass Effect 2
Some familiar faces are back in BioWare's sci-fi sequel, but plenty has changed, too. Read more!
Namco Working On Tekken 6 Online Patch
Good.
Most Popular Achievements (10/31 - 11/6)
I bet this is the last week on top for Borderlands.
Is This The First Teaser For Kane & Lynch 2?
Do I look like I read German?
The End of N-Gage
Special interview with the world's leading N-Gage enthusiast inside!
No Doubt Gets Cobain'd, Files Lawsuit Over Band Hero
Band "bitterly disappointed," Activision "believes it is within its legal rights."
Go Watch Captain N (Actually, Go Watch Pole Position)
New cartoon site launches with plenty of awful third-tier cartoons for on-demand viewing.
Netflix PS3 Discs Start Shipping
Watch your e-mail boxes... and then I guess watch your mailboxes, too.
Garrus Returns! And Other Secrets About Mass Effect 2
Some familiar faces are back in BioWare's sci-fi sequel, but plenty has changed, too. Read more!
Most Popular Achievements (10/31 - 11/6)
I bet this is the last week on top for Borderlands.
Namco Working On Tekken 6 Online Patch
Good.


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