Buying Borderlands 2 without playing 1. Wise choice?

#1 Posted by jrodrz (155 posts) -

Hey guys.

So I've been thinking about picking up Borderlands 2, since I've been told it's a great game, and it's been a while since I played a decent shooter (Not a CoD or Halo fan). But I have not played the first Borderlands yet. Should I play the first one, or can I jump straight into the second one? Will I be missing something by skipping 1?

I appreciate any coments!

Cheers

#2 Posted by ExiledAstronaut (115 posts) -

From what i remember you should be okay if you skip the first one.

#3 Posted by Zeik (2264 posts) -

You don't need to play the first. Technically it dies tie in directly with the previous game and there are plenty of references, but BL1's overarching plot was pretty thin. The one relevant plot point is explained in the first few minutes.

#4 Edited by PeasantAbuse (5138 posts) -

You won't be missing anything by skipping the first.

#5 Posted by Fredchuckdave (5339 posts) -

2 is better unilaterally; and in general they're very similar games so you wouldn't want to play one immediately after playing the other.

#6 Posted by Nightriff (4930 posts) -

You won't miss anything important...Borderlands to me was always a mindless game to play while listening to music or podcasts. Story is shit/non-existent, characters are meh, just really fun.

#7 Posted by Odie_Esty (9 posts) -

To be honest it might be better that way. Most of my issues with B2 is that it doesn't evolve on B1 as much as I would have liked. B1 is a pretty fun game on it's own so you might really love B2 starting with it.

#8 Posted by Hunkulese (2657 posts) -

The silent uninteresting player character choices from the first game are now running things. That's about all you need to know.

I played through both and still don't know what exactly a vault is.

#9 Posted by RazielCuts (2942 posts) -

You won't miss anything important...Borderlands to me was always a mindless game to play while listening to music or podcasts. Story is shit/non-existent, characters are meh, just really fun.

Yeah and honestly, if you play 1 and then play 2 it may be even worse because you'll get burnt out and see how they kinda just made Borderlands 1.5. Borderlands 2 was fine but it was just a incremental refinement of the first game really.

#10 Posted by Lyisa (333 posts) -

The interface in Borderlands 1 is kind of lame. Other than some of the characters just being cooler to play as I would say skipping 1 is fine and the story isn't really worth talking about (in either game really).

#11 Posted by CatsAkimbo (603 posts) -

I'd actually recommend you skip 1 over 2. For whatever reason, 1 was too boring for me to play for more than a few hours, but 2 was fantastic. If you get way into it, you can always go back and play 1.

#12 Edited by madpierrot (67 posts) -

Personally I would say get 1 over 2, but I am in the minority on that. I have played over 150 hours in each and when it comes down to it 1 was just more fun and less annoying. Perhaps a lot of that just has to do with 1 being the completely fresh thing and it would be hard for 2 to have the same impact, but when I think about them now the original is one of my all time favorite games and 2 was good, but too many things annoyed me about it.

But yeah it doesn't matter if you skip 1. Play either though. You'll enjoy your time.

#13 Edited by wjb (1645 posts) -

From what I remember, the only thing in 2 was "Hey, it's one of the four playable characters from the first game!" I don't think the playable characters from the first game even talked, so it's not like you're missing much.

Then there's Claptrap and the guardian angel woman, but again, you aren't missing much.

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#14 Edited by AdequatelyPrepared (328 posts) -

You aren't missing much at all. Borderlands 2 is definitely the better game, and the character classes are both way more balanced than in 1, and are also way more diverse in terms of play styles (the Assassin for instance, can be built as either melee or sniper). Loot is also way more diverse.

Edit: The only thing that annoys me in Borderlands 2 is the early game. If you choose to play the new game again with a new class just to get a new take on combat you have to go through this long tutorial-ish part of the game every time, and loot drops take a while to really diversify into all the weapons types, class mods, etc.

#15 Posted by pweidman (2307 posts) -

Played hundreds of hours of both, and it doesn't matter at all if you start with BL2. It's better in every way anyway. Good game for sure...enjoy.

#16 Posted by Gruebacca (506 posts) -

No reason to play 1 in this day and age. You missed that window of opportunity when 2 came out.

The problem with 1 is that it's simply outdated by its successor. Just about every little aspect of Borderlands 1 was improved upon in the sequel. Also not helping its case is the nonexistent story that doesn't matter in the first place.

#17 Posted by Nightriff (4930 posts) -

@nightriff said:

You won't miss anything important...Borderlands to me was always a mindless game to play while listening to music or podcasts. Story is shit/non-existent, characters are meh, just really fun.

Yeah and honestly, if you play 1 and then play 2 it may be even worse because you'll get burnt out and see how they kinda just made Borderlands 1.5. Borderlands 2 was fine but it was just a incremental refinement of the first game really.

Absolutely agree, this happened to me. I was going to play Borderlands 2 and decided to run through the first one to get me excited. It actually killed every desire to play the second one and still haven't gotten around to it yet. The reviews also didn't help as it was an incremental refinement to the first one, as razielcuts says.

#18 Edited by Slaegar (695 posts) -

I'm going to spoil the ending of Borderlands 1. Without spoilers I can tell you that it is safe to completely to ignored Borderlands 1 and go straight to 2. The PC port of the original Borderlands is also bad and Borderlands 2's PC port is pretty good. How do you seriously lock "v-sync" on and at slightly higher than 60 fps so its always tearing anyway?

You run through some snowy area for a while killing boring enemies and you eventually get to the vault. There's no loot there, just a big tentacle monster that you exploit to kill and then the main quest line is over. The story may as well not be there. The rest of Borderlands 1 is just go somewhere kill dudes until you get to the end. Its all an excuse to shoot dudes with friends (which is obviously fine)

#19 Posted by mosespippy (4051 posts) -

Borderlands 2 is a huge joke, and the joke most of the time is "Hey, remember that thing from Borderlands 1? Here's a funny take on that." I also think Borderlands 1 is a better game. A lot of Borderlands 2 is running through a linear area for a story reason, then when you get back to town you'll get a bunch of quests to run through the area again. Then about an hour later there will be another quest to run through that area again. There is a lot of back tracking, because the fast travel points are not located anywhere convenient. Basically I'm saying the level design and writing is better in Borderlands 1.

#20 Posted by SteadyingMeat (1122 posts) -

You won't be missing anything. Borderlands 1 has almost zero story. It's cool to see some of those old characters return, but it's certainly not cool enough to justify a playthrough of 1.

#21 Edited by SteadyingMeat (1122 posts) -

@nightriff: The same thing happened with me. Except I actually played Borderlands 2. The level design and writing is way better, but I dunno, I was just so burnt out on that gameplay that I stopped playing it halfway through and never got around to finishing it until a few months ago.

#22 Posted by Klei (1768 posts) -

I couldn't bear to finish Borderlands 1, it was interesting at first, but its design and story was excruciatingly disappointing for me. Borderlands 2, on the other hand, corrected all its shortcomings and delivered hilarious quests and dialogs. I wouldn't even touch Borders1 with a stick now that 2 is out and with MUCH more content.

#23 Edited by MikkaQ (10270 posts) -

The story is never the appeal in Borderlands. The dialogue can be entertaining but you don't need to know stuff from the first game to enjoy things here. It's more about the crazy weapons and shooting and levelling up.

#24 Edited by OneKillWonder_ (1698 posts) -

You won't be missing much in terms of story that you can't read on a wiki in about a minute. However, I think BL1 is a superior game when it comes to the combat and loot, arguably the two most fundamentally important parts of the game. BL2 gets everything else nearly perfect and is funnier and far more varied than the first, but the loot drop rates and balancing of many weapon types are totally broken in higher level play. Both are great fun, but I would personally choose 1 over 2.

#25 Posted by TheRealMoot (356 posts) -

I love Borderlands 1 to death. But there is zero story. You get off the bus and are told "Search for the Vault" at the end of the game, you find the vault. That is the extent of the story. There's funny dialogue in there, in my opinion, but there is no story progression. Get off bus, shoot psycho's, find vault.

You don't miss anything story related by just jumping into Borderlands 2. The only thing that might catch you is that the main characters of Borderlands 1 are the primary quest givers in Borderlands 2, but since they never had personalities in the first game... yeah, it's not going to be a problem. Some people just bring it up.

You aren't missing much at all. Borderlands 2 is definitely the better game, and the character classes are both way more balanced than in 1, and are also way more diverse in terms of play styles (the Assassin for instance, can be built as either melee or sniper). Loot is also way more diverse.

Edit: The only thing that annoys me in Borderlands 2 is the early game. If you choose to play the new game again with a new class just to get a new take on combat you have to go through this long tutorial-ish part of the game every time, and loot drops take a while to really diversify into all the weapons types, class mods, etc.

^ This is entirely correct. The characters are far more diverse, you can probably actually get into a debate over what is a better character build in Borderlands 2 on a per character basis rather than everyone just saying "Play Soldier" in Borderlands 1.

And I also agree on the loot tables being weak at the start of the game. There might be all of like 5 different gun styles in the first 2 or 3 areas of the game that could be designated the tutorial area. You wont be seeing crazy grenade types or shields till you get out of the 1 or 2 hour long starting area.

If your skipping over Borderlands 1 to get to Borderlands 2, I ain't going to stop you. Play it! It's really bloody good, and if you have some buddies to play it with, it's even better.

#26 Posted by SpaceInsomniac (3578 posts) -

@jrodrz:

This should be everything you need to get you up to speed. And no, after watching these videos, you really shouldn't have to play the first game before the second. This isn't Mass Effect.

Do everything you can to play with at least one or two friends, though. Borderlands 2 is about as good as co-op games get.

#28 Edited by jrodrz (155 posts) -

Thanks to everyone for your help! Im getting BL 2 reliefed that i'm not missing anything important

Cheers!

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