I'm usually not the most sensitive person in the world when it comes to frame-rate issues, but holy hell this game is borderline unplayable!

I spent about three hours in split screen and it was never once stable. I'm talking 15-20 FPS on average. I actually can't believe this got past certification.

I'm not sure if the 360 version suffers the same fate, but I'm going to try my best to switch it over.

Just a heads up to any potential buyers

Did you only play in split-screen? I'd think that single player would be better, not that frame rates like that in split-screen are acceptable.

This. Games in the HD era aren't optimised for split-screen gameplay and oftentimes it feels like developers include it to avoid pissing people off. That being said, Borderlands 2 chugged on both the 360 and the PS3 in singleplayer.

Just fired up single player and it seems to play fine other than some hitching when entering new areas

It's really unfortunate, especially when there's no PS4 or Xbox One versions of the game. I'm sure the PC version is fine, as those are wont to be, but I'm not gonna play this now. I probably wasn't going to anyway (not because of the game, because I've moved on to PS4), but I have zero interest in playing a frame-y mess version. Okay, frame-y mess is probably harsh, but you get what I mean.

Borderlands 2 on PS3 was kind of a travesty as well. Playing it online would also actually cripple the framerate annoyingly enough, and some the Torque dlc pack literally ran at like 20fps at most, so I'm not surprised hear the Pre-Sequel isn't stellar. I know you're specifically referring to split-screen play, but I'd also gather it isn't that much of an improvement with one screen.

Unless you're Gears of War apparently. From the beginning right up to Judgment, those games always ran at a steady framerate even in split-screen. Well, cutscenes were a little dicey but nothing too bad.

@yummylee: Not that low frame rate cut-scenes are fun to watch, but if one part of your game is going to run poorly, that's the least bad one, if you want good game play.

And yeah, I had forgotten about those. I only ever played the first two split screen, but I don't remember having any problems with it.

Yeah, there are plenty of games that run fine in split screen. The Kane and Lynch games were fine, the Army of Two series was fine, Resident Evil 5 and 6 ran great, and a bunch of others as well. Sure, sometimes games didn't handle it well, but that was closer to an exception than a rule.

Eh, I dunno that I would say RE5 ran great. I remember some frame rate stuff even in single player. And more so in split screen.

@yummylee: Strange, because I recently played through all three Gears games with my housemate split-screen and the core trilogy all had framerate issues. Granted they were WAY better performance-wise than most split-screen offerings but they were still dicey. I heard Judgment had fewer set-pieces, so maybe that explains it.

The Halo and Call of Duty games always had a great framerate in 4 player splitscreen. Also I started playing Borderlands 2 on my gaming pc, and it even though I have it on the lowest settings, the game still chugs sometimes. It sucks.

@impartialgecko: Maybe I'm misremembering, but from my own experience I thought those games were great in split-screen. It wasn't that long that I lasted played 'em, either.

@mooseymcman: RE5 in split-screen on PS3 is kinda rotten, but I would assume it's much more manageable on 360?

@yummylee: I played the 360 version. For whatever reason, I ended up playing both that and RE6 on 360. I think it may have been reading about the frame rate in both cases, actually.

I mean, it was far from unplayable, but it stuck out to me.

@mooseymcman: I dunno about split-screen, but RE6's framerate on PS3 is alright surprisingly enough. It runs much better than RE5 does on PS3 at the very least.

@yummylee: Well, it's good that game got something right.

Weird. I'm playing it split screen and it's been a pretty steady 30. It's dipped to 20 maybe twice so far after 3 hours. It actually feels better than Borderlands 2.

Edit: Yeah, just got through a big firefight with both me and my partner using lasers and it wasn't bad at all. Definitely didn't go below 20.

Welp good to know. If I buy it, will be on PC then. Probably would have been anyway.