Like Jonathan Blow said, if length of gameplay is the main qualifier to a game being good, then sitting in a chair is the best f*%^ing game ever.

This title is a gem.  If you miss it because of pricing, it's your loss.  For the experience, I would have paid $20.

Still cheaper than the Penny Arcade Game.

I wasn't going to get Braid on principle, but this thread has converted me.  I'm buying it tonight.

It is a pretty good arcade game.

Braid is worth 1200 points. The game is spectacular on every level (gameplay/visual/audio), and tries something new which worked out great. IMO braid is better than most $60 games that come out.

If this game were on a handheld it would command at least $20 if not $30.  I don't mind.   We've just been conditioned, by M$ of all places, to expect games to cost less on live.  I really don't mind the price much.  I find the game quite fun actually.

Pretty sure they'd make more money having it 800 points. Maybe even more at 600 seeing as it's coming out right on the heels of the sequel to the most loved XBLA game. Hopefully it comes down in price, because more people should try these art-house games. They are too few and far between.

All you fools complaining about the price, read this: My blog.

I fucking hate puzzle games so I probably wouldn't have bought this at 800 points.

Oni, you need to realize that you can't win every argument on the Internet and some people do measure the value of a game by how long it is, and just because you don't that doesn't mean it's not a valid way to measure a game for certain people.

ITS WORTH THE POINTS!!! god, you people

http://www.penny-arcade.com/comic/2008/08/08/

Why do people think Braid is that short ?! Puzzles me, it took me about 7 hours to finish the game and I even used a few hints (no real walkthrough, just to assure myself that I wasn't trying something impossible)! With all the secrets it's a good 10 hours. I have payed 60€ for a 10 hour game before and I'm pretty sure most gamers have. So, if you measure the value of a game by its length, Braid is still reasonably priced.

I think PA sums it up nicely.
http://www.penny-arcade.com/comic/

Yes, PA summed it up perfectly. If you are not willing to pay this "much" cash for something this beautiful, thought provoking, perfectly executed brilliant piece of game... Then I don't know what you should spend that money on.
It is not short, and even if it was I would buy it. Heck, I am sure there are things hidden away no one knows about yet. This is a mystery of a game, and those games are few and far between these days.

Penny Arcade has a comic for all you haters.

I wouldn't pay 800 points for Braid, let alone 1200.

I like how that comic is supposed to prove something. The people who buy 15 dollar internet meme shirts are stupid. The people who spend 15 dollars on tacky Mexican food are stupid. Therefore..

...people who spend $15 on quality products are better than the aforementioned examples.

If you want me to explain any other punchlines, I'll be around.

For the price of this game, you could pick up Call of Duty 2 or 3, or a Tony Hawk game.  And those are full releases, people!

So you could get some bland WW2 shooters or a skating game in a franchise that hasn't been fun for 10 years instead of a creative 2d platformer.  What a value.

"I fucking hate puzzle games so I probably wouldn't have bought this at 800 points.

Oni, you need to realize that you can't win every argument on the Internet and some people do measure the value of a game by how long it is, and just because you don't that doesn't mean it's not a valid way to measure a game for certain people."

"AndrewP said:

"I fucking hate puzzle games so I probably wouldn't have bought this at 800 points.

Oni, you need to realize that you can't win every argument on the Internet and some people do measure the value of a game by how long it is, and just because you don't that doesn't mean it's not a valid way to measure a game for certain people."

Yet I also argued that even if you judge Braid's value by its length, it's worth 15 bucks, assuming you ever bought a single player retail game that is not an Oblivion or some other RPG. So you fail and I don't 'need' to realize anything. Reading comprehension, learn it."

I see your point, Andrew, that's why I think these games are easily worth $60. But what about games like Bioshock? Are Single Player only (or mainly) games a rip off now? If you look at CoD 4 as consisting of two parts (SP and MP) and you paying equal amounts for each, Braid is half the price of the CoD 4 campaign and just as long. Plus, if you don't like the game and think it's not worth your 15 bucks, that's fine. It was worht mine.

Plus, if you don't like the game and think it's not worth your 15 bucks, that's fine. It was worht mine.

Kameo for 10 smackers?

*Buys*

"DerBonk said:

Plus, if you don't like the game and think it's not worth your 15 bucks, that's fine. It was worht mine.

I wish everyone would stop trying to convince people that this game is worth the money and just have the attitude that this guy has."

"AndrewP said:

"I fucking hate puzzle games so I probably wouldn't have bought this at 800 points.

Oni, you need to realize that you can't win every argument on the Internet and some people do measure the value of a game by how long it is, and just because you don't that doesn't mean it's not a valid way to measure a game for certain people."

Yet I also argued that even if you judge Braid's value by its length, it's worth 15 bucks, assuming you ever bought a single player retail game that is not an Oblivion or some other RPG. So you fail and I don't 'need' to realize anything. Reading comprehension, learn it."

Hello all. I had to create this account just to post this message (and because Giant Bomb rules).

Until I get a job, I'm pretty poor. I had planned on getting Geo Wars 2 with a points card once me mum got some mulah, but now I'm getting this game. Even though I know I'm going to have to go to a guide more than once (lets just say I'm that one dead bulb in a new set from an entire case), this game is simply amazing.

Worth the extra $5, but not for everyone!

If you like Ico, Shadow of the Colossus etc, hit this up.

Simple.

I love Ico and Shadow of the Colossus. It's not as simple as the post above would like to have you believe.

"...people who spend $15 on quality products are better than the aforementioned examples.

If you want me to explain any other punchlines, I'll be around."

"It's not MS who determines pricing, it's the devs.  MS will only take some royalties."

The problem really is that people say "It is overpriced" when they should be saying "In my opinion it is overpriced". If we could agree on that, I don't think there will be any conflict here. I personally still think that 15€ is a very reasonable price for a game like this. I will play this game for far more then 10 hours and have already played about 8 hours. Those 8 hours also were some of the best hours spend with a game ever. All of them. This game is so good in every second, that every hours I spend playing this game, I felt like I was experiencing the best part of most other games.

I have no problem with people not liking Braid and therefore not thinking it's worth 15 dollars. I just took umbrage with that guy's tone, condescending as shit.

But yeah whatever, if the only reason you're not buying it is because OMG it's 5 bucks more you are shooting yourself in the foot and missing out on the most important video game made in about 10 years. Your loss.

I'm a pathetically poor person but I did buy BRAID after playing the jawdropping demo.

Though I admit that 1200 MS points is way too much for a XBLA game but I'm GLAD that I have this game. One of my favorite purchases