Before you complain about the bots there is one thing to realize:  The bots get better as you get better AND as the need to help you increases.

About enemy AI:
Yes, when you are low level, the enemy AI is stupid.  You will kill them without any problem and finish missions pretty easily.  Then as you gain levels and unlock abilities you'll notice that you start failing missions and the enemy AI will murder you.  OVER.  AND OVER.  And they will continue to do it without mercy and in new curbstomping ways each match. The enemy AI in this game, at higher levels, is out of control hard.  And I love it.  A 1v1 shootout against the AI at higher levels is scary and will always keep you on your toes. You're lucky if you come out with 1/2 health.  1v2 and you just better run or pray help comes soon.  Its an awesome challenge and makes me keep coming back to this game.

About friendly AI:

Those points about friendly AI make it sound like they are trying to make features out of stupid AI.

 @Chabbs0 said:

" Those points about friendly AI make it sound like they are trying to make features out of stupid AI. "

I feel like theres alot of Brink Apologists. I play plenty of games that most people don't like, but at least they're unique, brink is like every other shooter, with oddly elongated characters. And the reason other shooters don't have "multiplayer" with bots is because they are so god damn lame. Who wants a game where your expected to do everything yourself until the AI trigger's its own on switch and takes over?

Yep, Brink is just like every other shooter
with parkour
and gun selection not based on class
and no snipers
and no grenade spam
and extreme character customization
and no K:D tracking
and an actual focus on teamwork

Just like every other shooter.

It sounds like your just defending the fact that the AI doesn't do anything making you do all the work.

" and no grenade spam "

They can say what they want- I'm still not interested in the game. It just isn't appealing to me.
Reason that bothers me is I really liked the Unreal Tournament and Quake Arena games back in the day so for me its more so the game just doesn't look fun.
I'd still play UT2004 actually- hmm wonder if ppl still play that.
I know what I'm doing tomorrow!

Those sound like excuses, and, yes, this game does look like every other game. You can back it up all you want, but I would advise that you celebrate the game on the Brink forums or with close friends and family, because you are not going to get the support you want here.

AI is stupid when you're the only person on your team trying to hold down an objective. That doesn't sound like support, that sounds bullshit. I was excited about this game and I've been let down.

" @ObiFett: I'm getting the feeling you like Brink.  "

Not convinced. They sold this game as having a singleplayer campaign, which is such an exaggeration on what they provided that it is a borderline lie. Yet we should believe that the incredibly poor AI on offer is a 'feature' that improves with you?

The bots could well get smarter and turn the pathetic excuse for a singleplayer mode into a great experience...but who the fuck cares? The bots in the QL were dumb, majorly dumb, and posed basically no challenge to Jeff, who was at a reasonable level. Furthermore, when do the bots get smarter? If you are a new player and they are pants on head retarded, ensuring you have no fun whatsofuckingever, how is that a 'feature'? I am a pretty good FPS player, how many hours should I grind before I'm allowed to have fun with smart bots, instead of watching my teammates get mowed down while enemy bots stare at me blankly without shooting?

Why would I play against bots if I'm that invested on the game?

Whatever their intentions were, the actual end result are friendly bots that act like complete buffoons.  I actually like this game but I'm not going to try and make myself believe the AI is even half acceptable.

I get it.  They made a design choice with the AI that is supposed to make them dynamically change as you play.  They failed miserably in execution, which is what matters.  Give me all the details you want about the AI but I'm fucking playing this game and it's bad enough that I couldn't play past 2 missions on my own with bots. 

" Those sound like excuses, and, yes, this game does look like every other game. You can back it up all you want, but I would advise that you celebrate the game on the Brink forums or with close friends and family, because you are not going to get the support you want here. "

" Not convinced. They sold this game as having a singleplayer campaign, which is such an exaggeration on what they provided that it is a borderline lie. Yet we should believe that the incredibly poor AI on offer is a 'feature' that improves with you? The bots could well get smarter and turn the pathetic excuse for a singleplayer mode into a great experience...but who the fuck cares? The bots in the QL were dumb, majorly dumb, and posed basically no challenge to Jeff, who was at a reasonable level. Furthermore, when do the bots get smarter? If you are a new player and they are pants on head retarded, ensuring you have no fun whatsofuckingever, how is that a 'feature'? I am a pretty good FPS player, how many hours should I grind before I'm allowed to have fun with smart bots, instead of watching my teammates get mowed down while enemy bots stare at me blankly without shooting? Why would I play against bots if I'm that invested on the game? "

Playing with bots in brink is like playing Left 4 Dead single player. Yeah, it's possible, but it's not nearly  as much fun.

There's a difference between bot AI scaling to your actual skill level in a fluid, dynamic way (IE noticing what you are good at and what you aren't and adjusting accordingly) and bot AI appearing stupid (or simply broken) at lower levels because that's what they're told to do (or simply because they're broken). One of these is canny programming, the other is lazy. Guess which is which!

It's not a bug, it's a feature.

" @Tim_the_Corsair said:

" Not convinced. They sold this game as having a singleplayer campaign, which is such an exaggeration on what they provided that it is a borderline lie. Yet we should believe that the incredibly poor AI on offer is a 'feature' that improves with you? The bots could well get smarter and turn the pathetic excuse for a singleplayer mode into a great experience...but who the fuck cares? The bots in the QL were dumb, majorly dumb, and posed basically no challenge to Jeff, who was at a reasonable level. Furthermore, when do the bots get smarter? If you are a new player and they are pants on head retarded, ensuring you have no fun whatsofuckingever, how is that a 'feature'? I am a pretty good FPS player, how many hours should I grind before I'm allowed to have fun with smart bots, instead of watching my teammates get mowed down while enemy bots stare at me blankly without shooting? Why would I play against bots if I'm that invested on the game? "

- They never said the game was going to have a proper single player campaign. They actually expressly said the campaign was going to be exactly what came on the disc.
- Saying the bots posed basically no challenge to Jeff in the QL is laughable.  He was getting killed very regularly and was unable to plant the charge on that first map multiple times.  His complaint was about the friendly AI.  Had he simply buffed his allies and worked with the AI, he would have had more success.  And he wasn't that high of level, for that matter.
-So you are saying the AI should be amazing against new players? That's bad game design.  Every game starts off easy then gets harder.  Its part of gaming.  Increase of time played = increase in skill = increase of game difficulty.

And again, if the bots did more, the game would play itself.  Who wants that in any single player FPS experience?  I mean really?  If when playing Halo the bots completed levels, or in COD the bots crossed the invisible checkpoint line, it wouldn't be a game.  It wouldn't be a challenge. Bots don't complete objectives right away to give you a chance to do it yourself and/or to give you a challenge. "

" I feel like theres alot of Brink Apologists. I play plenty of games that most people don't like, but at least they're unique, brink is like every other shooter, with oddly elongated characters. And the reason other shooters don't have "multiplayer" with bots is because they are so god damn lame. Who wants a game where your expected to do everything yourself until the AI trigger's its own on switch and takes over? "

" Playing with bots in brink is like playing Left 4 Dead single player. Yeah, it's possible, but it's not nearly  as much fun. "

" but it just feels like a lot of people can't accept it didn't turn out to be the greatest thing since sliced bread. "

" @PrimeSynergy said:

" but it just feels like a lot of people can't accept it didn't turn out to be the greatest thing since sliced bread. "

And nobody is saying it's the greatest thing since sliced bread, except maybe a couple of fringe assholes.

Get your head out of your ass. I see far more complaining and snarky, pseudo-witty one-liners from idiots who haven't actually played the damn game than anybody going on the opposite spectrum.

"

@PrimeSynergy said:

" but it just feels like a lot of people can't accept it didn't turn out to be the greatest thing since sliced bread. "

And nobody is saying it's the greatest thing since sliced bread, except maybe a couple of fringe assholes.

Get your head out of your ass. I see far more complaining and snarky, pseudo-witty one-liners from idiots who haven't actually played the damn game than anybody going on the opposite spectrum.

"Go back to Off Topic. "

From the campaign and a half i've played, i fucking hate the bots. The bots on the other team can defend like crazy and my bots don't do shit all to help. It's frustrating as hell.

" From the campaign and a half i've played, i fucking hate the bots. The bots on the other team can defend like crazy and my bots don't do shit all to help. It's frustrating as hell. "

" From the campaign and a half i've played, i fucking hate the bots. The bots on the other team can defend like crazy and my bots don't do shit all to help. It's frustrating as hell. "

hey guys the ai inst broken its just that theyh are supposed to suck to teach you to get better a tthis game so you should go out and buy the gamebecause he ai is supposed to e tough like that not easy like most people do it so it nos a bug its the way the game issupposed to be played so you should buy brink

jeffs review was wrong becuse he was bad at it not because he game sucks it bwcause that the ai is as good as you to teach teamwork so if yuor bad it bsad like realistic moltiplayer games unlike cod where you sit in a corner and camp so if you sit in acmp then the will to so you hae to be good at the game and they will be good to so thatswhy jeff reivewi is wrong because hes not good at the game soyou shouldnt listen to him the game is good you just have to play it on the pc because it was made for the pc so you should play it there and it will be good to

buy brink guys

" @ObiFett: I'm getting the feeling you like Brink.  "

" @PrimeSynergy: I'm pointing out that you're living in a damn vacuum in relation to this game, community and opinions. And because one guy out of fifty assholes defends the game, that means he's an apologist? That makes no sense. Most people who are enjoying the game are enjoying it because they feel its competent with a lot of great, unique qualities.

We are not apologists. We like the game because it's unique and fuckin' fun. You guys are done here. You've had your fun spamming up the Brink forum with bullshit sarcasm. Go back to Off Topic.

"

I'm really liking Brink, the multiplayer aspect at least, but dude the AI is fucking terrible. It is no fun trying to complete objectives while getting shot by 8 guys, while your teammates sit there and pick their dingle berries. If the bots turned out how they wanted as part of their design philosophy, well then they goofed on that part of the game. It just makes matches long, tedious and rage inducing for no reason. 

NOOOOOOOOOBOOOOOOODDDDYYYYYYYYY CAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARRRRREEEEEESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS

So what you're saying is that the bots are smart 10% of the time, thus we should consider them smart all the time? 

"  @Chabbs0 said:

" Those points about friendly AI make it sound like they are trying to make features out of stupid AI. "

 

" Yep, Brink is just like every other shooter

with parkour

and gun selection not based on class

and no sniper

sand no grenade spam

and extreme character customization

and no K:D tracking

and an actual focus on teamwork

Just like every other shooter. "

@chilibean_3: you cared enough to drag your ass to the forums and post here. This is the Brink forum where when we're not playing we can talk about the game.

" @PrimeSynergy: I'm pointing out that you're living in a damn vacuum in relation to this game, community and opinions. And because one guy out of fifty assholes defends the game, that means he's an apologist? That makes no sense. Most people who are enjoying the game are enjoying it because they feel its competent with a lot of great, unique qualities.

We are not apologists. We like the game because it's unique and fuckin' fun. You guys are done here. You've had your fun spamming up the Brink forum with bullshit sarcasm. Go back to Off Topic.

"

I love when people make threads defending their purchase of a game that people think is bad because of game reviews and footage of gameplay. 
I know how it feels when I was a kid and I spent my allowance on a bad game I forced myself to love it because I got only a handful of games a year.  To this day I still believe Bart Simpson vs. The Space Mutants, Batman Forever, and WWF Warzone are quality games. 
Edit - Has any game company ruined more peoples childhoods more then Acclaim?

No, the AI in this game blows. You people need to quit pretending that this game has AI on-par with another game. I always thought COD's AI sucked, and then I played Brink.

How about you all play the game, THEN come up with an opinion. Those that have played it have said the A.I isn't as stupid reviews made out them to be.

Infact the A.I on Hard is a fucking beast.

This could be true. If it is, then I throw my support in with "A.I. shouldn't hold back." I would want the bots to behave as (competent) people would if I was playing. The nature of the game makes dynamic A.I. too transparent in all the wrong ways. It's a novel idea that play-testing should have revealed the faults of. To be honest though, the A.I. in the Quick Look did not seem bad to me for the most part. (I understand Jeff said it was acting better at that point)