I got this and immediately had buyers remorse but as i keep playing I find my self enjoying this game more and more. I find this is one of my favorite MP shooters I've ever played.
Listening to today's bombcast, I could not believe the vitriol coming out of Jeff's mouth, and the amount of shit talking as well. He raises points about brink which he complains about (the weapon customization specifically), but he's completely fine with black ops having the exact same amount of details about the weapons.
What really angered me was when he compared this game to Section 8, seriously? that's insulting. yes it's MP only but it's extremely well made and polished game-play, and yes while it does have "only" 8 maps their not comparable to call of duty or similar franchises considering the way they work, and their size.
A lot of what he says is biased by his own shitty experiences like complaining about medics not healing, that's like complaining about TF2 because your teams medics sucked. as well as when he dismisses the SMART button just because he has had trouble with it, i find it extremely helpful for trans-versing the map running away and stuff like that, It's not a Gimmick and I feel that it really adds to the game. And while this comes to preference, does it matter if you can reach the max level in a few hours? if you come for the progression and not for the game then your doing something wrong.
I understand the sentiment Splash Damage didn't make the lack of a Campaign clear before the release but this game is really great. a 2 out of 5 I find is not appropriate, Brink deserves a 3 at the least.
I'm also probably just venting or trying to justify my purchase or something but it did really annoy me.
Brink
Game » consists of 10 releases. Released May 10, 2011
A multiplayer-focused, class-based first-person shooter running on id Tech 4, in which oppressive soldiers and anarchistic terrorists battle for the few remaining resources on a failed paradise known as the Ark.
What is Jeff's deal?
I can't really comment on Jeff, since I haven't played Brink and haven't listened to the last 5 Bombcasts.
Well, no shit? Whose experiences should he be using for his review, then?A lot of what he says is biased by his own shitty experiences.
What? You don't agree with someone else's opinion! Stop the presses!
Seriously, dude, it doesn't matter what anyone else thinks as long as you enjoy the game. Also, the very fact that you acknowledge buyer's remorse bothers me. If you're gonna bring beef, at least stick to your guns.
This game is getting lambasted all over the place. Griffin McElroy at Joystiq also gave it a 2 out of 5. Even IGN, with Brink ads all over their site, gave it a 6 out of 10. Jeff is not some lone voice unfairly criticizing the game. A lot of people have a lot of problems with it.
" This game is getting lambasted all over the place. Griffin McElroy at Joystiq also gave it a 2 out of 5. Even IGN, with Brink ads all over their site, gave it a 6 out of 10. Jeff is not some lone voice unfairly criticizing the game. A lot of people have a lot of problems with it. "However it is also getting good reviews as well.
Apparently there's already supposed to be a patch coming to address a lot of issues. I dunno. I kinda lost interest in this game a while ago.
Man look at that adorable puppy icon you have. How could you ever get upset when that's right in front of you all the time?
@Garfield518: as I said to the duder above, if the game has a really great medic class and adds incentives for healing, you cant deduct from the score because there were some dorks on your team. if people used that logic every multilayer game would get lows scores.
edit: I don't get where people are getting the idea that I need Jeff vindication on my buying of Brink, I'm just raising some points with his criticisms.
if you can accept this is a great game, you should try out Team Fortress 2, Halo Reach, Bad Company 2, Black Ops, or any other shooter that has released in the last three years.
I haven't played Brink myself, but there was nothing in the Bombcast to suggest that his experience with medics and the like actually swayed his review, it was just a kind of sucky thing that happened to him in the end. I'm not sure what else to tell you except different people have different opinions about video games.
You seem to be under the impression that Jeff didn't want to like this game and therefore nitpicked it to death in order to lower its score. He didn't have a good time with the game and doesn't feel like it is a good full priced experience. He didn't go out of his way to make the game look bad. You can't believe the vitriol coming out of his mouth? Do you think YOU might have some strong words about a game that you felt was wasting your time?
You should play other shooters and stop worrying about some dude who was seriously underwhelmed by a certain game....
He's probably worried about the negative reputation the game is getting and the effect its going to have on the game's userbase because of all these poor reviews. If that's the case, I feel the same way." The funny part is that you're more worried about the review of the game you just bought instead of actually enjoying said game. "
Sorry for the rant. I am a part of the BRINK defense force because I'm worried about the game's online lifespan.
" I got this and immediately had buyers remorse but as i keep playing I find my self enjoying this game more and more. I find this is one of my favorite MP shooters I've ever played. Listening to today's bombcast, I could not believe the vitriol coming out of Jeff's mouth, and the amount of shit talking as well. He raises points about brink which he complains about (the weapon customization specifically), but he's completely fine with black ops having the exact same amount of details about the weapons. What really angered me was when he compared this game to Section 8, seriously? that's insulting. yes it's MP only but it's extremely well made and polished game-play, and yes while it does have "only" 8 maps their not comparable to call of duty or similar franchises considering the way they work, and their size. A lot of what he says is biased by his own shitty experiences like complaining about medics not healing, that's like complaining about TF2 because your teams medics sucked. as well as when he dismisses the SMART button just because he has had trouble with it, i find it extremely helpful for trans-versing the map running away and stuff like that, It's not a Gimmick and I feel that it really adds to the game. And while this comes to preference, does it matter if you can reach the max level in a few hours? if you come for the progression and not for the game then your doing something wrong.I understand the sentiment Splash Damage didn't make the lack of a Campaign clear before the release but this game is really great. a 2 out of 5 I find is not appropriate, Brink deserves a 3 at the least. I'm also probably just venting or trying to justify my purchase or something but it did really annoy me. "The difference is that Black Ops has a single player campaign that compliments it's amazing multiplayer action. Brink is lacking.
@ESREVER: this is my exact point.
@LiquidPrince: but that's debatable and subjective as well, I found black ops to be lacking no so great unmemorable single-player, a zombies mode i completely don't care for, and a horribly unbalanced messy multiplayer with a bad community, but you enjoy it so who am i to say? it comes down to personal preference.
But watching the game being played, I have to say that it really doesn't paint a positive picture when the bots are almost universally morons; especially when those bots are a vital component of the single-player portion of the game, which in turn seems no different than the multiplayer portion save for the fact that those incompetent bots are replaced by (hopefully) more competent people. Also, in the online matches that Jeff played during the QL, there were instances of severe lag that had him running in place awkwardly for seconds at a time.
" @President_Barackbar: as someone who enjoys stuff like monster hunter, demons souls and games with weird, clunky, janky, or just bad ideas I've learned to love and deal with issues like that (as has Jeff, no doubt) so that might cloud my judgement, but I know I ever only get pissed at games if they are seriously fucked like Tron and fable 3 for example. And he did as you described last year to Red Dead so I don't think it's unfounded. "You still didn't really acknowledge my point about Jeff NOT nitpicking the game to death. This really isn't a similar situation to Monster Hunter or Demon's Souls. Hell, I was mad that Jeff was so dismissive of Red Dead at first, but then as I thought about it, he never said the game was bad, just that it wasn't for him. Jeff doesn't seem to be doing that here. He didn't give the game 2/5 because it isn't for him, he did so because he felt that there were fundamental problems with the game.
I havent played a lot of Brink. I cant seem to stand more then 10-20mns, but it seems to have jumped on the FPS on-line band wagon while doing really nothing inventive with it. Its just a REALLY marginal game. If you cant see why ppl arent liking it, or where they are coming from, better for you. You are enjoying the game more then we are......
Also comparing weapon customization to black ops doesnt really translate in my eyes. The guns in Brink all feel like shit so far making any customization moot. Just because another game did a MUCH better job, does not automatically justify Brink doing the same thing.
So then don't listen to him.
Reviews are just the opinions from someone who gets paid to have opinions.
"I did the same and I loved DMC 2... I was young but I still loved it. And on the topic of Brink, I can't really say because I haven't played it. Though I will say out of all my friends I was the to say 'meh I probably won't get it' (and I didn't) My friends like it a lot it seems but I guess its a thing of how long will it last. One thing I find really weird is the lack of a lobby system. A FPS without a lobby/party system really baffles me.I once said," screw the reviews" and I bought Devil May Cry 2. I still have nightmares.
You enjoy it. Good. Every other website gave it shitty reviews, if it helps you cope. The A.I, The Lag, The unfinished parcour. I am renting this but I am weary.
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Jeff is allowed to dislike the game. He doesn't seem to like most team-focused FPS's. If you enjoy it, then what does it matter? Like me. I love the shit out of zombie games (RE5 not included) and Jeff hates zombies. Who cares? Why does his opinion need to be yours? If you enjoy the game as much as you seem to then what does it matter if he didn't?
@freshakiff:
It's the best MP shooter you've played ever so it deserves at least a 3 out of 5. Is this what I'm reading? Does this mean you would have given it 3 or that Jeff should?
I can understand if you don't think Brink deserved such a cruel bashing but that's what you have to do sometimes to get the point through.
That's just the way it is, reviewers often have different opinions than you, so just enjoy the game.
" Saying he doesn't like the shooting or the game-play? that's valid. But complaining about his personal experiences and letting that interfere with the review isn't. "He can't come at it from anybody else's angle. He can only report on the experience he had with the game and, as it turns out, he was disappointed because the game did disappointing things in his eyes. You're having a different experience? Great! That doesn't really change what Jeff got out of it.
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