$60 price tag on PC means this is not a day 1 purchase for me

#1 Posted by ds8k (406 posts) - 2 years, 3 months ago

Anybody else in this same boat? I'm a fan of People Can Fly but lately Epic has been pulling some shady shit. This price tag was the final nail in the coffin for me. I'll get it on Steam when it goes on sale probably.

#2 Posted by KaosAngel (13766 posts) - 2 years, 3 months ago

I don't think anyone buys PC games for 60 bucks, but then I saw that BLOPS was the top selling game for PC, and it made me sad. I don't count SC2 as it isn't made by the greedy fucks at Activision.

#3 Posted by B0nd07 (1637 posts) - 2 years, 3 months ago

Thanks to how popular the consoles have become, more and more PC titles cost $60, especially ports.

#4 Edited by Ben_H (2686 posts) - 2 years, 3 months ago

I play games 6 months after they're released on PC. There will almost always be a huge ass Steam sale where they are selling for cheap so I buy them and play them then instead of when new.

#5 Posted by ViciousReiven (747 posts) - 2 years, 3 months ago

Suck it up, we always have to deal with this crap and you should too.

#6 Posted by ds8k (406 posts) - 2 years, 3 months ago

Why should we deal with it? There's no form of licensing fee attached to PC gaming. People need to start voting with their wallet on things like this. Just because Activision got away with it doesn't mean everyone else can.

#7 Posted by Jimbo (8911 posts) - 2 years, 3 months ago

This probably isn't very helpful, but you can order it online in the UK for about $30. So if I were you I just wouldn't buy it on principle.

@ViciousReiven said:

" Suck it up, we always have to deal with this crap and you should too. "

Nope. There's no platform tax to pay on PC so he shouldn't have to "deal with this crap". Maybe if you stopped sucking it up then you wouldn't have to deal with it either.

#8 Posted by DarkTravesty (328 posts) - 2 years, 3 months ago

considering consoles have nothing at all to do with pc game prices. one thing would be just general inflation shit cost more no matter what its for. either bend over and take it or don't play it at all.

#9 Posted by ds8k (406 posts) - 2 years, 3 months ago

@Jimbo said:

" This probably isn't very helpful, but you can order it online in the UK for about $30. So if I were you I just wouldn't buy it on principle."

I'm a Steam addict so like I said, I'll just wait for the Steam sale a few months down the road.

@DarkTravesty said:

" considering consoles have nothing at all to do with pc game prices. one thing would be just general inflation shit cost more no matter what its for. either bend over and take it or don't play it at all. "

I don't believe that for a second. Activision knew that they could charge anything for MW2 and got away with it even with everyone bitching. Once other publishers saw the success they jumped on board.

#10 Posted by belaraphon (443 posts) - 2 years, 3 months ago

i figure a game company can charge $60 bucks because thats how much they think. if i like a game i am funding more games from that developer. games cost cash, devs need to be paid, its business. if you don't like is, send a letter to the publisher with you concerns and wait for the mark down.

#11 Posted by KaosAngel (13766 posts) - 2 years, 3 months ago

@DarkTravesty: That would be a valid reason but Blizzard games have always been $60, if it was inflation...Blizzard should've raised their prices too.

#12 Posted by Pinworm45 (4088 posts) - 2 years, 3 months ago

@DarkTravesty said:

" considering consoles have nothing at all to do with pc game prices. one thing would be just general inflation shit cost more no matter what its for. either bend over and take it or don't play it at all. "

Consoles have everything to do with it. The 10$ is a microsoft/sony fee. Also.. the choices aren't just bend over and take it or don't play at all. There's other options such as.. wait until the price is actually reasonable and then buy it.

Or buy it 2 years later for 6.99$ on steam.

#13 Posted by President_Barackbar (3153 posts) - 2 years, 3 months ago

I think its pretty dumb that console and PC prices are on par now, especially considering the absence of a platform fee AND the fact that digital distribution means you don't have to produce PC discs.

#14 Posted by Beforet (2637 posts) - 2 years, 3 months ago

I would not have bought this day one if it were $50. Or $40. I know these guys know their shit, and I loved Painkiller. But that's because I bought Painkiller for $10, and it will probably be the same in this case.

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#15 Edited by MonetaryDread (1459 posts) - 2 years, 3 months ago

well, i guess i am just going to have to wait to play bulletstorm. I just hope that, if the game fails to sell on PC, Epic doesn't blame piracy.
Unproven IP from a B-tier developer ≠ $60 value on pc

#16 Posted by ReyGitano (2462 posts) - 2 years, 3 months ago

Games cost money to make, pirating takes away from profits, prices go up. Such is the way of the world.

#17 Posted by TooWalrus (11836 posts) - 2 years, 3 months ago

It's good that your sticking to your guns, I guess, but you may be missing out on a great game because of it.

#18 Posted by Animasta (12786 posts) - 2 years, 3 months ago

I'll definitely wait until the christmas sale for this one, to be sure

#19 Posted by KillyDarko (1886 posts) - 2 years, 3 months ago

@Jimbo said:

" This probably isn't very helpful, but you can order it online in the UK for about $30. So if I were you I just wouldn't buy it on principle.

@ViciousReiven said:
" Suck it up, we always have to deal with this crap and you should too. "
Nope. There's no platform tax to pay on PC so he shouldn't have to "deal with this crap". Maybe if you stopped sucking it up then you wouldn't have to deal with it either. "

Pretty much this.

#20 Posted by FancySoapsMan (5416 posts) - 2 years, 3 months ago

pirate it

#21 Posted by BeachThunder (8918 posts) - 2 years, 3 months ago

I'm not that interested in the game. I'm interested enough to put the game on my Steam wishlist, but not interested enough to pay more than 10.

#22 Edited by RsistncE (4496 posts) - 2 years, 3 months ago

@ViciousReiven said:

" Suck it up, we always have to deal with this crap and you should too. "

No we shouldn't. Prices for games should be higher on consoles because the publishers have to pay licencing fees to Sony, Microsoft, Nintendo etc. There are no licencing fees in that manner on the PC; publishers are only charging the same amount because they feel they can get away with it.

@SlashseveN303 said:

" Games cost money to make, pirating takes away from profits, prices go up. Such is the way of the world. "

Well it didn't take long for the piracy excuse to be used. *Yawn*

Additionally it would be helpful if people actually had at least a fundamental grasp of supply/demand economics before they started making ridiculous statements like this.

#23 Posted by KaosAngel (13766 posts) - 2 years, 3 months ago

@RsistncE: In the defense of Blizzard they have been charging $60 since Diablo 2, so maybe the other companies just wanted some of that cash?

#24 Posted by JJOR64 (18132 posts) - 2 years, 3 months ago

@ViciousReiven said:

" Suck it up, we always have to deal with this crap and you should too. "

#25 Posted by clarke0 (1077 posts) - 2 years, 3 months ago

Fine to complain about provided you actually don't pay $60 for it at some point. People need to realize that publishers will continue to walk all over consumers as long as they know they can get away with it.

#26 Posted by RsistncE (4496 posts) - 2 years, 3 months ago

@KaosAngel: That's exactly what it is. Publishers were always looking for a way to match up PC game prices with console game prices, it's one of the main reasons they would evoke the piracy boogeyman so much. Bad excuses pretty much.

#27 Posted by Aus_azn (2223 posts) - 2 years, 3 months ago

@KaosAngel said:

" I don't think anyone buys PC games for 60 bucks, but then I saw that BLOPS was the top selling game for PC, and it made me sad. I don't count SC2 as it isn't made by the greedy fucks at Activision. "

Theoretically, it is. I'm sure ActivisionBlizzard's marketing team told them to flog it for $60. But this did make me sad too.

#28 Posted by Obsidian (346 posts) - 2 years, 3 months ago

I didn't even buy StarCraft 2 day one. This trend of $60 PC games needs to die.

#29 Posted by Bloodgraiv3 (2680 posts) - 2 years, 3 months ago

60$ is cheap, I pay 80$ for almost all my games -.-

#30 Posted by wickedsc3 (1046 posts) - 2 years, 3 months ago

That's a bummer, but you cant expect prices to stay the same forever. Blizz's been doing it for awhile it only common sense that others would do it too. I mean if i see that my competitor is able to get x price for x product, im sure as hell going to try it too. Espically if i see all these other companys laying off people left and right which has been happening.
And im sure that pirating does affect the companys, and for some ppl to dismiss that is just stupid. Once u add in all the factors it makes sense that prices will go up eventually. Just be glad u have been getting them cheaper while it lasted.

#31 Posted by Jayross (2368 posts) - 2 years, 3 months ago

Okay, then don't.

#32 Posted by Gonmog (510 posts) - 2 years, 3 months ago

@SlashseveN303

Games cost money to make, pirating takes away from profits, prices go up. Such is the way of the world.

Uggggggggg!!!!!! :( I'm sorry.

#33 Posted by captain_clayman (3164 posts) - 2 years, 3 months ago

imma just rent this for xbox or ps3 and maybe buy it for PC when its on sale on steam for like 20-30 bucks

#34 Edited by Edwardryu (437 posts) - 2 years, 3 months ago

@KaosAngel: wrong. tons of people still buy that. mostly they don't care price tag even overall PC game sale has been down. if you don't have clue, don't say that. once price went up, they easily get over it. you don't have any choice before going to discount. including me, waiting for that long time is killing myself. so I'd better get that full price. if you ditch amazon.com, you can find lower price as well. for example, dead space 2 ($60) is now $42 or $41.

#35 Posted by cyraxible (679 posts) - 2 years, 3 months ago

Saying piracy takes away from profits is one of the most propagated misconceptions about piracy. It's not profits lost if they never intended to buy it and they're not taking a unit from someone who would.

#36 Posted by fastidious (89 posts) - 2 years, 3 months ago

Yeah, 60 bucks means it's a Day 1 download instead

#37 Posted by Rockanomics (1150 posts) - 2 years, 3 months ago

@cyraxible said:

" Saying piracy takes away from profits is one of the most propagated misconceptions about piracy. It's not profits lost if they never intended to buy it and they're not taking a unit from someone who would. "

What?? If your interest level equated to exactly 0 dollars and not a penny more then why are you even taking the time to pirate it? If Bulletstorm went on sale for $3 you wouldn't just buy it?

#38 Posted by kishan6 (1910 posts) - 2 years, 3 months ago

@KaosAngel: I spent 100$ on sc2....

#39 Posted by doejonathan (149 posts) - 2 years, 3 months ago

@cyraxible said:

" Saying piracy takes away from profits is one of the most propagated misconceptions about piracy. It's not profits lost if they never intended to buy it and they're not taking a unit from someone who would. "

"Ladies and gentlemen of the jury, sure my client forced himself on the victim, but he did not rape her, as he never intended to pay for a prostitute in the first place."

Other than money, there is something else the audience has that publishers need to convince them to hand over: their spare time. If someone pirates game A without the intend to ever buy it, game A publisher won't see any losses, however game B developer might not be able to sell their game as the free time the costumer has reserved for gaming is now used up. It's impossible to determine what the exact losses are and who gets the hardest hits, but saying piracy doesn't affect revenue at all is perhaps a bit short sighted.

To the OP, if Activision feels that the demand is high enough to warrant a $60 price tag, it would (or could, I'm looking at you my lovely Valve) be bad business practice. However, if you feel it's not worth it, then the best way to vote is with your wallet. After playing the demo, I'll wait for Bulletstorm to hit the bargain bin.

#40 Posted by Bocam (3138 posts) - 2 years, 3 months ago

@KaosAngel: Diablo 2 was $60?

#41 Posted by SpaceIndaver (23 posts) - 2 years, 3 months ago

@KaosAngel said:

" I don't count SC2 as it isn't made by the greedy fucks at Activision. "

Uh, what?

#42 Posted by HaltIamReptar (1980 posts) - 2 years, 3 months ago

@doejonathan said:

" @cyraxible said:
" Saying piracy takes away from profits is one of the most propagated misconceptions about piracy. It's not profits lost if they never intended to buy it and they're not taking a unit from someone who would. "
"Ladies and gentlemen of the jury, sure my client forced himself on the victim, but he did not rape her, as he never intended to pay for a prostitute in the first place."

You would be taken a lot more seriously if you left out this part.

#43 Posted by Xanth93 (484 posts) - 2 years, 3 months ago

@HaltIamReptar said:

" @doejonathan said:
" @cyraxible said:
" Saying piracy takes away from profits is one of the most propagated misconceptions about piracy. It's not profits lost if they never intended to buy it and they're not taking a unit from someone who would. "
"Ladies and gentlemen of the jury, sure my client forced himself on the victim, but he did not rape her, as he never intended to pay for a prostitute in the first place."
You would be taken a lot more seriously if you left out this part. "

This.

By the way, business is business. If you can't fork over $60 for a game, wait for it to go in to the bargain bin. That's what I do since I can't afford all the hot new releases. The only reason I have Brotherhood right now is because I got it on sale for $35 when the after Christmas sales started poking their heads out. Now it's back up to $60 again.

I have issues when people complain about game prices. Activision may be greedy bastards, but not all companies are. Some are doing what they can to make a living. The fact that the games go down in price is amazing so people who can't afford it day one can get it eventually. So seriously, either pay the $60 or wait. Complaining isn't going to do anything.

#44 Posted by CaptainCody (1491 posts) - 2 years, 3 months ago

Man, PC gamers are a bunch of bitches, get the fuck over it.

#45 Posted by doejonathan (149 posts) - 2 years, 3 months ago

@HaltIamReptar: @Xanth93: Would either of you care to explain why or how the opening of my post affects the rest of it?

#46 Posted by agentboolen (1621 posts) - 2 years, 3 months ago

@ds8k said:

" Anybody else in this same boat? I'm a fan of People Can Fly but lately Epic has been pulling some shady shit. This price tag was the final nail in the coffin for me. I'll get it on Steam when it goes on sale probably. "

Yea I felt like this when I left the PS2 - the Xbox 360. I remember when the first party games were only $40 and the 3rd parties were $50 now everything is $60 its bullshit. I'm usually waiting till a price reduction or a big sale. You would think a slightly lower price game release would give gamers a little extra incentive to buy a game, now a days everyone will just buy them for $60. Just the world we live in. But yea I understand your complaint. $60 is the new $50 and $40 it seems.

#47 Posted by Xanth93 (484 posts) - 2 years, 3 months ago

@doejonathan said:

" @HaltIamReptar: @Xanth93: Would either of you care to explain why or how the opening of my post affects the rest of it? "

The opening of the post is critical. If it's poor, I have no interest in reading the rest of it. It had nothing to do with piracy or this topic on $60 PC games, so I could really care less what was said after it.

#48 Posted by CaptainObvious (2944 posts) - 2 years, 3 months ago

Not here in good old Poland.

#49 Posted by doejonathan (149 posts) - 2 years, 3 months ago

@Xanth93: Fair enough, I won't go into why I opened my post the way I did as you already stated you have no interest in it, however, I would like to ask if you could respond the way you just did now, rather than simply quoting me and only adding "This". It is difficult for me to ascertain the criticism with only one word given.

#50 Posted by MikkaQ (9720 posts) - 2 years, 3 months ago

60$ is the normal price of games nowadays. It's a bit silly to complain about it still.

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