Is this game just one big GOW advertisement? Why?

#1 Posted by MaddProdigy (1041 posts) -

So I just finished Bulletstorm. I played a few games of multiplayer, tried a few echo missions, beat the campaign on Hard. And after experiencing pretty much everything the game has to offer, I can't help shaking the feeling this game is just one big Gears of War 3 advertisement.
 
First of all, that various characters are straight up Gears of War clones. Greyson is a  little bit more of a heavy drinker, and a little more foul mouthed than Marcus Fenix I'll admit. But his voice and character model instantly and unmistakably call to memory the GOW protagonist, down to the way he hops over cover and holds his gun. Throughout the game you are accompanied by Dom, in the form of Ishi. Admittedly there's no similarity between the actual characters here, except that Ishi is the logical balance to Greysons craziness, much as Dom is to Marcus's. You have  female interest throughout the story, one who happens to wield a gun with ease and is extremely skilled in combat. I haven't played GOW 3 yet, but this sure seems to fit the Anya archetype nicely. Your nemesis through the game is a square jawed, square headed, loud mouthed miliarty commander type very similiar to sarge from GOW, in voice as  well as mannerisms. Overall, the characters all seem to be either direct copies or very similar. 
 
The way you hop over cover is similar to Gears of War. The way characters move, hold their guns, interact with the environment, all of it, it's all similar. The leash has a perfect reload system like the one in Gears of War, the starting rifle looks exactly like the Lancer.  
 
The only multi player options are either Horde mode from GOW, or the GOW multiplayer beta.
 
The list goes on and on. Honestly, this detracted from my experience. Why in the world would People Can Fly bother creating a "new IP" if they were just going to re-skin gears of war? Were they that sure that the bro vibes would help it sell so well they needn't apply any real effort to creating a new idea? Now, I'm not complaining about the host of new mechanics like the boot, leash, skillshots, etc. But I get the feeling I just payed 60 dollars for one big GOW advertisement, and that just bugs me for some reason I can't put my finger on. 
 
Did this annoy anyone else? Or did anyone like this aspect of the game? Honestly, I think it's totally possible Epic came in and said "This game is scheduled to release a couple quarters before Gears of War 3. Make you're game as similar to that as possible so as to keep it fresh in peoples minds." 
 
It's just...disappointing.

#2 Posted by DystopiaX (5360 posts) -

Didn't notice it at all. I mean yeah, the movement was similar, but i chalked that up to the fact that at one point both were third person shooters in Unreal engine. The bro-ness seems different from Gears (although better is another story). The horde mode is logical because idk how you'd make bulletstorm work with a competitive mp. And the gears beta is in there because hey, Epic's gotta pimp their own shit.

#3 Posted by RoyCampbell (1096 posts) -

Bulletstorm made me more excited for Gears of War 3. The technology behind Bulletstorm will undoubtedly be behind Gears 3 and I couldn't be more stoked. That isn't to say Bulletstorm doesn't stand on its own though, because Bulletstorm is fucking awesome.

#4 Posted by The_Laughing_Man (13629 posts) -
@MaddProdigy said:
" So I just finished Bulletstorm. I played a few games of multiplayer, tried a few echo missions, beat the campaign on Hard. And after experiencing pretty much everything the game has to offer, I can't help shaking the feeling this game is just one big Gears of War 3 advertisement. First of all, that various characters are straight up Gears of War clones. Greyson is a  little bit more of a heavy drinker, and a little more foul mouthed than Marcus Fenix I'll admit. But his voice and character model instantly and unmistakably call to memory the GOW protagonist, down to the way he hops over cover and holds his gun. Throughout the game you are accompanied by Dom, in the form of Ishi. Admittedly there's no similarity between the actual characters here, except that Ishi is the logical balance to Greysons craziness, much as Dom is to Marcus's. You have  female interest throughout the story, one who happens to wield a gun with ease and is extremely skilled in combat. I haven't played GOW 3 yet, but this sure seems to fit the Anya archetype nicely. Your nemesis through the game is a square jawed, square headed, loud mouthed miliarty commander type very similiar to sarge from GOW, in voice as  well as mannerisms. Overall, the characters all seem to be either direct copies or very similar.  The way you hop over cover is similar to Gears of War. The way characters move, hold their guns, interact with the environment, all of it, it's all similar. The leash has a perfect reload system like the one in Gears of War, the starting rifle looks exactly like the Lancer.   The only multi player options are either Horde mode from GOW, or the GOW multiplayer beta. The list goes on and on. Honestly, this detracted from my experience. Why in the world would People Can Fly bother creating a "new IP" if they were just going to re-skin gears of war? Were they that sure that the bro vibes would help it sell so well they needn't apply any real effort to creating a new idea? Now, I'm not complaining about the host of new mechanics like the boot, leash, skillshots, etc. But I get the feeling I just payed 60 dollars for one big GOW advertisement, and that just bugs me for some reason I can't put my finger on.  Did this annoy anyone else? Or did anyone like this aspect of the game? Honestly, I think it's totally possible Epic came in and said "This game is scheduled to release a couple quarters before Gears of War 3. Make you're game as similar to that as possible so as to keep it fresh in peoples minds."  It's just...disappointing. "
You do know the game was supposed to be a 3rd person shooter at first. Im pretty sure they even said it in the Quick look. 
#5 Posted by buft (3320 posts) -

i think the game stands out on its own merits, definitely some gears-esque moments in there but in saying that bulletstorm definitely has its  moments where it couldnt be further from gears

#6 Posted by Bones8677 (3276 posts) -

I don't think so. They marketed the hell out of that game, the Gears 3 beta always seemed like an afterthought.  Wasn't Gears 3 supposed to be released not too long from now? A beta wouldn't have benefited them that much if they had stayed with that date.
 
Though Crackdown was pretty much a Halo 3 ad. I don't recall a single commercial for Crackdown that didn't feature the Halo 3 multiplayer beta code.

#7 Posted by Michael_B_Back (20 posts) -

No no no no no no no no 

#8 Posted by MonetaryDread (2170 posts) -
@MaddProdigy said:
The only multi player options are either Horde mode from GOW, or the GOW multiplayer beta.
I am not trying to sound like a douch, but Horde mode has been in every Epic title since the original Unreal Tournament (it is called Invasion in that version). That is kinda Epic's thing when it comes to multiplayer. 
#9 Posted by YoungFrey (1321 posts) -

I disagree.

#10 Posted by The_Laughing_Man (13629 posts) -
@MonetaryDread said:
" @MaddProdigy said:
The only multi player options are either Horde mode from GOW, or the GOW multiplayer beta.
I am not trying to sound like a douch, but Horde mode has been in every Epic title since the original Unreal Tournament (it is called Invasion in that version). That is kinda Epic's thing when it comes to multiplayer.  "
Its also a large spin on horde mode. I played Anarchy and you are not that out numbered. Hardly anyone went down and those who did go down did not stay down.  
#11 Posted by The_Laughing_Man (13629 posts) -

I really hate it when people just private message me with their answer to my quote.  
 
OP did this to me and pretty much called Bulletstorm a GOW clone. 

#12 Posted by MaddProdigy (1041 posts) -
@The_Laughing_Man: Oh I apolagize, such serious business responding to forum posts. It pops up in my private inbox when you @reply me, am I a forum noob for just responding? What's the difference though, calm yourself. I think it's already clear I think Bulletstorm is pretty much a gears of war clone, as I stated in the main post.
 
The mechanics and base game idea are vastly different, I agree with some of you. But it feels like they took the cool idea of the boot, leash, etc. and said "Hey...what if Marcus Fenix was doing all this stuff? With the rifle from Gears of War! Yeah!" 
 
Obviously I'm alone here, bugged the hell out of me though. Ty for input all.

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