Playing an older "inferior" game instead of the newest one.

Posted by TonicBH (268 posts) -

I recently got Call of Duty: World at War as an early birthday gift (my birthday's tomorrow). I've been dabbling in both co-op modes and multiplayer. Today, on a snow day, where my class had been canceled, I decided to take a break from getting my ass kicked in Crackdown...

...to play Call of Duty 3. See, COD3 was the sole COD game I had for the 360 until I got WAW. Both made by the same developers (Treyarch), and both made with different development times and circumstances. COD3 had to be released on five platforms, two of them launch systems, be made and finished in nine months, and had to be out for the holiday season (and to satisfy Activision and their fat cat shareholders). World at War was made in two years, had familiarity with the technology since it was modified COD4 tech, and again, out for the holiday season.

World at War has more features, game modes, gameplay, players, everything. But I decided to play COD3. Considered to be the "worst in the whole series" and the sole reason loads of people were skeptical about WAW (besides the whole "going back to WWII" thing). It's not that bad, really. It was only $13, perhaps if I had paid $60 back in 2006 I'd be telling a different tale, but I kinda like it. Perhaps it's a guilty pleasure. Or maybe it's those "Kusoges" I hear about on them internets.

Or it's because there was one remaining achievement that I knew I could get ("Supply Officer") that didn't result in grinding (the remaining rank achievements) or frustration ("Grizzled Veteran"). Either way. I'd say it's worth a look. And hey, easy achievements! For the most part.

#1 Posted by TonicBH (268 posts) -

I recently got Call of Duty: World at War as an early birthday gift (my birthday's tomorrow). I've been dabbling in both co-op modes and multiplayer. Today, on a snow day, where my class had been canceled, I decided to take a break from getting my ass kicked in Crackdown...

...to play Call of Duty 3. See, COD3 was the sole COD game I had for the 360 until I got WAW. Both made by the same developers (Treyarch), and both made with different development times and circumstances. COD3 had to be released on five platforms, two of them launch systems, be made and finished in nine months, and had to be out for the holiday season (and to satisfy Activision and their fat cat shareholders). World at War was made in two years, had familiarity with the technology since it was modified COD4 tech, and again, out for the holiday season.

World at War has more features, game modes, gameplay, players, everything. But I decided to play COD3. Considered to be the "worst in the whole series" and the sole reason loads of people were skeptical about WAW (besides the whole "going back to WWII" thing). It's not that bad, really. It was only $13, perhaps if I had paid $60 back in 2006 I'd be telling a different tale, but I kinda like it. Perhaps it's a guilty pleasure. Or maybe it's those "Kusoges" I hear about on them internets.

Or it's because there was one remaining achievement that I knew I could get ("Supply Officer") that didn't result in grinding (the remaining rank achievements) or frustration ("Grizzled Veteran"). Either way. I'd say it's worth a look. And hey, easy achievements! For the most part.

#2 Posted by JoelTGM (5596 posts) -

I liked it at the time, but I couldn't get multiplayer to work even after they tried patching that crap.   I'd rather play it over WAW though.

#3 Posted by Ashuku (215 posts) -

Big Red One is easily worse than COD3. I enjoyed COD3 quite a bit too... Not the single player so much, but WAR mode in multiplayer was a blast... But I'm a sucker for the battlefield style controlpoint multiplayer.

#4 Posted by TekZero (2665 posts) -

Good gameplay never gets old.  Don't let anyone ever tell you otherwise.

#5 Posted by MattyFTM (14349 posts) -

You should get CoD 2. It's easily better than 3 and WaW.

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#6 Posted by RHCPfan24 (8609 posts) -

I didn't like COD3. I think I wrote a short review here about it (check my profile), and its short development time showed. A lot of glitches and bugs reared their ugly heads. The multiplayer aspect was okay, but COD4 improved upon it in every way possible that I can't look back. The one benefit I got from it was the easy achievements. I will never complain about that.

#7 Posted by crunchUK (5963 posts) -

haha how can you get you arse kicked in crackdown?????

and cod3 isn't as bad a speople make out. The classes and large and reliativley non laggy battles are a lot of fun. Sure it's no halo or team fortressut it's fun to play once in a while b

#8 Posted by TekZero (2665 posts) -

Playing older games usually means reduced prices.  I love it when sequels come out.  Now I can buy Gears of War and Skate for like $20 each.  Win freaking win baby.

#9 Posted by Bullet_Jr (770 posts) -

A good game will always be a good game, regardless of how old it is.

#10 Posted by Hexpane (1397 posts) -
TekZero said:
"Good gameplay never gets old.  Don't let anyone ever tell you otherwise."
COD3 doesn't have any good gameplay.  As another user mentioned, COD2 is far superior.

THe list of flaws in COD3 is long, but here are the lowlights.

1. Respawning enemies.  Did you just kill 30 Nazis?  Wait 5 minutes and 30 more will spawn

2. Invisible Walls.  See that giant cool looking war going on over there, well you can't go there because of this invisible wall

3. Small linear paths.  Oh did you want to run up that hill and go shoot those respawning nazis? Well you can only get there by following this tight, restricted path w/ invisible walls on either side.  Oh is that a burning building? You can't go in, invisible FIREWALL.  Are those infinitely respawning enemies in that house you can't go in?  Don't worry about it, your objective is over here down this linear path anyway, those burning buildings are just for eye candy
#11 Posted by TonicBH (268 posts) -

Ashuku: I liked Big Red One's idea, it's just... buggy, and COD3 is the same thing. See, both of these games were pushed out the door by Activision to hit the Christmas season and they weren't refined enough. Six more months for BOTH games would've made them better.

MattyFTM: I'm a fan of the whole franchise. I already have COD2 on the PC. :P

CrunchUK: How can I get killed in Crackdown? Real easy. :P

Hexpane: Um, the "infinite respawning enemies," invisible walls and small linear paths also appear in COD2 and COD4. It was better masked in those games, though (some stages had minefields that pretty much were visible walls you could pass through but you'd die if you tried to go beyond map boundaries). I can remember two distinct locations in COD2 that had those infinite respawns, such as that one point where you had to assault and clear a house in the British campaign. So if you're gonna put the blame on Treyarch, you must be fair and blame Infinity Ward as well.

#12 Posted by kmdrkul (3476 posts) -

CoD2:BRO is my favorite CoD game of all time.  That games online (for the PS2) was tons of fun.  Lots of memorable levels.  Loved the BAR in that game.

#13 Posted by kmdrkul (3476 posts) -

CoD2:BRO is my favorite CoD game of all time.  That games online (for the PS2) was tons of fun.  Lots of memorable levels.  Loved the BAR in that game.

#14 Posted by RichardLOlson (1852 posts) -
Well  I'm a man of many colors....in terms of gaming.  I like a lot of the older games and the newer ones too.  But I remember the first time I played "Tecmo Bowl" on the NES and it blew my mind.  And till this day it still does.  A lot of the older games take u back to that childhood of innocence and joy.  But when they remake games like the new "Banjo Kazooie" for the 360, it shows that the company who made the game doesn't care about the way the older game made us feel, they just want to get as much money off us as they can.  Well I for one can't stand it.  I'm all for the older games like:St

Secret of Mana
Chrono Trigger
Final Fantasy 7
Tecmo Bowl
Super Mario Bros
Dragon Quest
Sonic the Hedgehog
Duke Nukem
Doom
Quake
Street Fighter
Mortal Kombat
Killer Instict
Golden Eye

     Just to name a few, but you do have some of those people out there who want to make remakes out of some of these games.  And they already have made some, and most of them are just crap.

#15 Posted by TomServo (199 posts) -

whenever I get a new system I'm usually a year or two behind so I buy all the best old games used, and then I can catch up eventually.

#16 Posted by atlantabrave04 (127 posts) -

I'm thinking about getting either Call of Duty 2 or Call of Duty 3 because I want good online multiplayer without having to play Modern Warfare. Anyone share my thoughts?
#17 Posted by Bucketdeth (8004 posts) -
@atlantabrave04 said:
" I'm thinking about getting either Call of Duty 2 or Call of Duty 3 because I want good online multiplayer without having to play Modern Warfare. Anyone share my thoughts? "
COD 2 is still the best in the series to me, I really hate 3 and up.
#18 Posted by atlantabrave04 (127 posts) -
@Bucketdeth:
Do you play it on the 360 or PC?
#19 Posted by Pazy (2561 posts) -
@atlantabrave04 said:
" I'm thinking about getting either Call of Duty 2 or Call of Duty 3 because I want good online multiplayer without having to play Modern Warfare. Anyone share my thoughts? "
Cod 2 and 3 have very few players on Xbox 360 (I think Cod3 has 50 at any time). Im not totally sure about Cod 2 on Xbox 360 but Cod 3 has enough for a fun game but not a whole lot. If you want a good community then Cod 2 on PC is where its at, and then you get to play rifle only on Toujane..ooo the memories :)
#20 Posted by PowerSerj (987 posts) -

CoD2. Preferably the PC version since there are plenty of modded servers to take advantage of.

#21 Posted by LiquidPrince (15854 posts) -

Snow day... What the... OH!

#22 Posted by Druminator (1676 posts) -

I like COD3 a lot, maybe even more than any COD which to some I guess is weird. I love the maps in that game and I also love the in match ranking. Ranking up all the way and calling in air strikes as sniper was awesome. Medic was also a whore haha. The map packs were really good too. I need to pick this up again to complete my COD collection. My last copy got destroyed.

#23 Posted by Intercryllic (108 posts) -

Ive been a fan of the CoD series from day one when the original was released. Since then I have played its expansion United Offensive, CoD2, 3, and 4.
 
I personally think that the first and its expansion were the best. They displayed every great moment in WW2 history and the multiplayer seemed somewhat fresh and it never got old. The following sequels were either bad or good. CoD 2 was a faithful sequel that again showed more great sequences and only improved on its cinematic gameplay. I was hesitant to try 3 at first because of Treyarch. I tried it and I didnt like it, they tried to cram a lot of other things into the series that I personally think think fit with CoD. However it still was that same CoD formula thats fun
 
Then came CoD 4 made by Ifinity Ward; the original devs. I was completely blown away, I would say its on par with the first in terms of the cinematic experience and fun factors. But the MP was something I had never experienced and it kept me coming back for more. So after playing 4 and hearing that Treyarch was making World at War and returning back to the WW2 scene, I laughed a bit. I havent played it because from everyone I hear its basically an over-glorified MOD of CoD 4.
 
So to go back on topic you shouldnt feel weird for playing an older game instead of the "newer" version of it. Its all about what you have the most fun with. This same problem comes with many games that continue on as a franchise.

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