Recommended setting?

#1 Posted by NekuSakuraba (7184 posts) -

So I am not to sure what setting I can have Black Ops run on, I need you guys to help me figure out what setting to run my game on so everything is how it is meant to be played. I usually wouldn't do this but Black Ops default settings are fucked so I need help.  
 
System -  
 
   Intel Core i7 920 2.66Ghz, 8MB Cache, 1066Mhz FSB, Quad Core  
 Corsair 6GB Kit (3x2GB), PC-12800 (1600MHz) DDR3, Dominator DHX, 7-7-7-20, Triple Channel Kit  
  eVGA GeForce GTX260 (675Mhz), 896MB DDR3 (2304Mhz), PCI-E 2.0, Exhaust Cooled, 2x DVI, HDCP, HDTV (Super Clocked Edition)   
 
So what should I turn my anti aliasing and filter etc to?
 
Thanks.

#2 Posted by Jimbo (9988 posts) -

Max it n' Fraps it.

#3 Posted by Raymayne (1226 posts) -
Product NameXbox 360
DeveloperMicrosoft

Product familyXbox
TypeVideo Game Console
Media

DVD, CD, Download

CPU3.2 GHz PowerPC Tri-Core Xenon
Memory512MB of GDDR3 RAM clocked at 700 MHz
Graphics500 MHz ATI Xenos
Sound
  • Analog stereo
  • Stereo LPCM 
  • Dolby Digital 5.1 
  • Dolby Digital with WMA pro
    
These are the settings I've found work best. I certainly wouldn't recommend anything else if you want to actually play Call of Duty: Black Ops
#4 Posted by NekuSakuraba (7184 posts) -
@Raymayne: No it's okay, I like playing my games with good controls, good communities, good mods and better graphics and performance. 
  
Now stop trollin' and go eat some nuggets.
#5 Edited by Vitor (2832 posts) -
@NekuSakuraba said:

" So I am not to sure what setting I can have Black Ops run on, I need you guys to help me figure out what setting to run my game on so everything is how it is meant to be played. I usually wouldn't do this but Black Ops default settings are fucked so I need help.   System -      Intel Core i7 920 2.66Ghz, 8MB Cache, 1066Mhz FSB, Quad Core   Corsair 6GB Kit (3x2GB), PC-12800 (1600MHz) DDR3, Dominator DHX, 7-7-7-20, Triple Channel Kit    eVGA GeForce GTX260 (675Mhz), 896MB DDR3 (2304Mhz), PCI-E 2.0, Exhaust Cooled, 2x DVI, HDCP, HDTV (Super Clocked Edition)    So what should I turn my anti aliasing and filter etc to? Thanks. "

Turn everything up to max, but disable V-sync and anti-aliasing. If you're running at a high enough resolution (1920x1080 which your card should be handle but it all depends on your display) you won't need the AA. However, if you're running at 1600x900, just keep changing the AA setting and see how much of a performance hit it takes - that and V-sync are the two most demanding aspects of most games. I tend not to notice screen tearing unless it's super bad (or in a cutscene when you're not immersed in the game enough to ignore it) so vsync is not the necessity for me as it is for most people, down to personal preference though.
 
Also, if you don't have it yet, download and install FRAPS so you can monitor your frame rate in games (either that or open up the console and force the command line with which to do so - I think Black Ops has that in there).  
 
I'm getting around 35FPS in the more demanding set pieces and around a sold 50/60 in the indoor sections with a similarly spec'd laptop (slightly slower i7 and my GTX285m is about comparable with your 260, maybe a little faster)- running max, 1920x1080 with no AA or V-sync.
#6 Posted by NekuSakuraba (7184 posts) -
@Vitor said:
" @NekuSakuraba said:

" So I am not to sure what setting I can have Black Ops run on, I need you guys to help me figure out what setting to run my game on so everything is how it is meant to be played. I usually wouldn't do this but Black Ops default settings are fucked so I need help.   System -      Intel Core i7 920 2.66Ghz, 8MB Cache, 1066Mhz FSB, Quad Core   Corsair 6GB Kit (3x2GB), PC-12800 (1600MHz) DDR3, Dominator DHX, 7-7-7-20, Triple Channel Kit    eVGA GeForce GTX260 (675Mhz), 896MB DDR3 (2304Mhz), PCI-E 2.0, Exhaust Cooled, 2x DVI, HDCP, HDTV (Super Clocked Edition)    So what should I turn my anti aliasing and filter etc to? Thanks. "

Turn everything up to max, but disable V-sync and anti-aliasing. If you're running at a high enough resolution (1920x1080 which your card should be handle but it all depends on your display) you won't need the AA. However, if you're running at 1600x900, just keep changing the AA setting and see how much of a performance hit it takes - that and V-sync are the two most demanding aspects of most games. I tend not to notice screen tearing unless it's super bad (or in a cutscene when you're not immersed in the game enough to ignore it) so vsync is not the necessity for me as it is for most people, down to personal preference though. Also, if you don't have it yet, download and install FRAPS so you can monitor your frame rate in games (either that or open up the console and force the command line with which to do so - I think Black Ops has that in there).   I'm getting around 35FPS in the more demanding set pieces and around a sold 50/60 in the indoor sections with a similarly spec'd laptop (slightly slower i7 and my GTX285m is about comparable with your 260, maybe a little faster)- running max, 1920x1080 with no AA or V-sync. "
Well, I am going to have it at 1680 x 1050. 
 
To be honest I know nothing about AA, V-sync and AA filtering, so I am not sure how they would work with my resolution.
#7 Posted by Sjupp (1911 posts) -
@NekuSakuraba:  You know, Raymayna kinda has a point. Although they've fixed some of it. This game is great but man is it a shitty port.
#8 Posted by ZimboDK (843 posts) -

I have a worse computer than you, and I'm running it fine (35-ish fps) in 1080p, everything maxed, AA and vsync disabled. I'm guessing you will take a somewhat substantial performance hit if you crank up the AA, but go for it anyway. You can always disable it again.

#9 Posted by Vitor (2832 posts) -
@NekuSakuraba said:
" @Vitor said:
" @NekuSakuraba said:

" So I am not to sure what setting I can have Black Ops run on, I need you guys to help me figure out what setting to run my game on so everything is how it is meant to be played. I usually wouldn't do this but Black Ops default settings are fucked so I need help.   System -      Intel Core i7 920 2.66Ghz, 8MB Cache, 1066Mhz FSB, Quad Core   Corsair 6GB Kit (3x2GB), PC-12800 (1600MHz) DDR3, Dominator DHX, 7-7-7-20, Triple Channel Kit    eVGA GeForce GTX260 (675Mhz), 896MB DDR3 (2304Mhz), PCI-E 2.0, Exhaust Cooled, 2x DVI, HDCP, HDTV (Super Clocked Edition)    So what should I turn my anti aliasing and filter etc to? Thanks. "

Turn everything up to max, but disable V-sync and anti-aliasing. If you're running at a high enough resolution (1920x1080 which your card should be handle but it all depends on your display) you won't need the AA. However, if you're running at 1600x900, just keep changing the AA setting and see how much of a performance hit it takes - that and V-sync are the two most demanding aspects of most games. I tend not to notice screen tearing unless it's super bad (or in a cutscene when you're not immersed in the game enough to ignore it) so vsync is not the necessity for me as it is for most people, down to personal preference though. Also, if you don't have it yet, download and install FRAPS so you can monitor your frame rate in games (either that or open up the console and force the command line with which to do so - I think Black Ops has that in there).   I'm getting around 35FPS in the more demanding set pieces and around a sold 50/60 in the indoor sections with a similarly spec'd laptop (slightly slower i7 and my GTX285m is about comparable with your 260, maybe a little faster)- running max, 1920x1080 with no AA or V-sync. "
Well, I am going to have it at 1680 x 1050.  To be honest I know nothing about AA, V-sync and AA filtering, so I am not sure how they would work with my resolution. "
Well the filtering isn't too much of a performance hit so crank it up - the AA and Vsync can be a big hindrance though if you turn them on. No way for knowing for sure unless you have a way of measuring your current FPS. 
 
Like I said, try playing it without V-sync on for a bit - if you don't notice the screen tearing, then you'll be fine without it and your performance will be much smoother. At that res, you could still probably get away with no AA also, especially if you're not sitting right up close to the screen. 
#10 Posted by Vitor (2832 posts) -
@Sjupp said:
" @NekuSakuraba:  You know, Raymayna kinda has a point. Although they've fixed some of it. This game is great but man is it a shitty port. "
Performance isn't as good as MW2 which is a bit of a let down as I ran that fine max'ed out but struggle here in places. Still, it's more than playable, at least I didn't have any of the issues people were complaining about although I've also yet to get online due to a strict uni internet connection so can't comment on the lag/server browsing problems.
#11 Posted by NekuSakuraba (7184 posts) -
@Vitor said:
" @NekuSakuraba said:
" @Vitor said:
" @NekuSakuraba said:

" So I am not to sure what setting I can have Black Ops run on, I need you guys to help me figure out what setting to run my game on so everything is how it is meant to be played. I usually wouldn't do this but Black Ops default settings are fucked so I need help.   System -      Intel Core i7 920 2.66Ghz, 8MB Cache, 1066Mhz FSB, Quad Core   Corsair 6GB Kit (3x2GB), PC-12800 (1600MHz) DDR3, Dominator DHX, 7-7-7-20, Triple Channel Kit    eVGA GeForce GTX260 (675Mhz), 896MB DDR3 (2304Mhz), PCI-E 2.0, Exhaust Cooled, 2x DVI, HDCP, HDTV (Super Clocked Edition)    So what should I turn my anti aliasing and filter etc to? Thanks. "

Turn everything up to max, but disable V-sync and anti-aliasing. If you're running at a high enough resolution (1920x1080 which your card should be handle but it all depends on your display) you won't need the AA. However, if you're running at 1600x900, just keep changing the AA setting and see how much of a performance hit it takes - that and V-sync are the two most demanding aspects of most games. I tend not to notice screen tearing unless it's super bad (or in a cutscene when you're not immersed in the game enough to ignore it) so vsync is not the necessity for me as it is for most people, down to personal preference though. Also, if you don't have it yet, download and install FRAPS so you can monitor your frame rate in games (either that or open up the console and force the command line with which to do so - I think Black Ops has that in there).   I'm getting around 35FPS in the more demanding set pieces and around a sold 50/60 in the indoor sections with a similarly spec'd laptop (slightly slower i7 and my GTX285m is about comparable with your 260, maybe a little faster)- running max, 1920x1080 with no AA or V-sync. "
Well, I am going to have it at 1680 x 1050.  To be honest I know nothing about AA, V-sync and AA filtering, so I am not sure how they would work with my resolution. "
Well the filtering isn't too much of a performance hit so crank it up - the AA and Vsync can be a big hindrance though if you turn them on. No way for knowing for sure unless you have a way of measuring your current FPS. 
 
Like I said, try playing it without V-sync on for a bit - if you don't notice the screen tearing, then you'll be fine without it and your performance will be much smoother. At that res, you could still probably get away with no AA also, especially if you're not sitting right up close to the screen.  "
So does V-Sync make the game preform better? it so why would I not turn it on? 
 
And how about something like AA x 4 or would I just have to turn it off?
#12 Posted by NekuSakuraba (7184 posts) -

So I was running V-Sync off and 8 x AA with about 60 - 80 FPS from what I could see from Fraps. 
 
Should I keep it like this or doing something to improve the framerate? And also, why does it feel I can't see everything on the screen? the end of the compass just makes it past the screen so I can see the whole thing.

#13 Edited by ZimboDK (843 posts) -
@NekuSakuraba: 
Well, with Vsync on, you basically limit your graphics card to not render more frames than your monitor can produce. If you have a 60Hz monitor, the graphics card will render no more than 60 frames each second. with Vsync off, that limitation goes away, and your graphics card will render all the frames it can. That's the simple explanation. Of course, you also have to consider that Vsync can give buffering issues, and can in worst case scenarios halve your framerate, but you probably don't have to worry too much about that.
 
Bottom line:
Vsync on: Limited framerate, may cause unusual framerate drops, and you may experience input lag.
Vsync off: May cause tearing of the image (which can be really bad. I speak from experience), but otherwise shouldn't cause any trouble.
 
I play with Vsync off and I haven't noticed any tearing. However, I just got a new monitor, so that may be why. Anyway, there's probably no reason to turn it on. It's usually just a matter of personal preference.
 
EDIT: @NekuSakuraba:  Could be that your monitor simply didn't adjust the image properly. If you have an Auto button on your monitor, try pressing it and see if that helps.
#14 Posted by NekuSakuraba (7184 posts) -
@ZimboDK: Here is a screenshot showing what I mean - 
 

The compass is at the very edge of the screen which it shouldn't be, how can I fix it? Screen settings in game are 1650 x 1080 at 16:10.
#15 Edited by ZimboDK (843 posts) -
@NekuSakuraba: That looks fine. Notice that the yellow objective arrow is at the right edge. If the image was stretched beyond the monitor's display area, it shouldn't be visible.
#16 Posted by NekuSakuraba (7184 posts) -
@ZimboDK said:
" @NekuSakuraba: That looks fine. Notice that the yellow objective arrow is at the right edge. If the image was stretched beyond the monitor's display, it shouldn't be visible. "
Oh, I see. Cool. ^__^ 
 
Now, a sort of unrelated question. The story is confusing the fuck out of me since it continues from World At War, anyway to fix that besides playing WAW?
#17 Posted by dbz1995 (4790 posts) -
@NekuSakuraba said:
" @Raymayne: No it's okay, I like playing my games with good controls, good communities, good mods and better graphics and performance.   Now stop trollin' and go eat some nuggets. "
BURN
 
Was I the only one who thought this about difficulty settings?
#18 Posted by ZimboDK (843 posts) -
@NekuSakuraba: It's been a while since I played WaW, but as far as I remember the only thing those games have in common story-wise is Reznov.
#19 Posted by NekuSakuraba (7184 posts) -
@ZimboDK said:
" @NekuSakuraba: It's been a while since I played WaW, but as far as I remember the only thing those games have in common story-wise is Reznov. "
Really? So without spoiling Black Ops, the guy in the chair has no connection with World at War and I find out about why he is in there etc later on?
#20 Posted by ZimboDK (843 posts) -
@NekuSakuraba: Pretty much, yeah.
#21 Posted by Vitor (2832 posts) -
@NekuSakuraba said:
" So I was running V-Sync off and 8 x AA with about 60 - 80 FPS from what I could see from Fraps.  Should I keep it like this or doing something to improve the framerate? And also, why does it feel I can't see everything on the screen? the end of the compass just makes it past the screen so I can see the whole thing. "
If you're getting that, then feel free to turn on Vysnc for better image consistency and a less variable framerate (which can result in smoother response time and a more consistent feeling to the controls). 
 
Usually Vsync causes a big performance drop but it seems like your rig can handle it fine.
#22 Posted by NekuSakuraba (7184 posts) -
@Vitor said:
" @NekuSakuraba said:
" So I was running V-Sync off and 8 x AA with about 60 - 80 FPS from what I could see from Fraps.  Should I keep it like this or doing something to improve the framerate? And also, why does it feel I can't see everything on the screen? the end of the compass just makes it past the screen so I can see the whole thing. "
If you're getting that, then feel free to turn on Vysnc for better image consistency and a less variable framerate (which can result in smoother response time and a more consistent feeling to the controls).  Usually Vsync causes a big performance drop but it seems like your rig can handle it fine. "
But doesn't having Vsync off improve the preformance? in that case, why would I turn it on if my rig can handle it?
#23 Posted by NekuSakuraba (7184 posts) -
@ZimboDK said:
" @NekuSakuraba: That looks fine. Notice that the yellow objective arrow is at the right edge. If the image was stretched beyond the monitor's display area, it shouldn't be visible. "
So I just played more of the game and some of the subtitles were in fact, to large for the screen. How do I fix this?
#24 Posted by Vitor (2832 posts) -
@NekuSakuraba: It does but it also results in screen tearing. If the FPS hit isn't too great, feel free to use it. If you'd rather keep the performance and don't notice the tearing, then ignore it as I tend to. It's all down to your personal preference. 
#25 Posted by NekuSakuraba (7184 posts) -
So I just played more of the game and some of the subtitles were in fact, to large for the screen. How do I fix this? "
#26 Posted by ZimboDK (843 posts) -
@NekuSakuraba: Dunno. Are they too far right, left or?
 
My game looks like this:
 

#27 Posted by NekuSakuraba (7184 posts) -
@ZimboDK said:
" @NekuSakuraba: Dunno. Are they too far right, left or?
 
My game looks like this:
 

"
Looks right, how about the objective arrow? I noticed in the quick look it was further in then on PC, also the minimap. Maybe it wasn't missing subtitles?  
#28 Posted by ZimboDK (843 posts) -
@NekuSakuraba: Huh, interesting. Just noticed that the objective arrow doesn't go to the edge on the bottom or left of the screen. Resolution or aspect ratio doesn't change anything. I've looked at a few PC gameplay videos and they look the same. I think that either Treyarch messed up or it's just supposed to look like that on the PC.
 
Found a comparison video, and it does the same thing:
 
  
#29 Posted by NekuSakuraba (7184 posts) -

Is Field of View in multiplayer good? what should I set it to? :/

#30 Posted by Tennmuerti (8174 posts) -
@NekuSakuraba said:
" Is Field of View in multiplayer good? what should I set it to? :/ "
Set is to MAX
FoV allows you to see more of your surroundings at the cost of things appearing smaller.
In Blops the max FoV you can set in game menu is 80, which is not a lot actually. A lot of people including myself prefer an even bigger FoV 90+

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