I'm talking about on consoles. It seems like every single CoD game, there is a huge amount of hacking and/or modding. You'll get in games and rank up to the last rank for shooting one guy, get demoted, have unlimited ammo and things like that. Just the other day I was playing CoD4 with a friend and there were messages coming up constantly on the side saying, "Hacked by 'guys gamertag' go to somethingmodz.com!"  
 
If you still play that game every once in awhile on consoles, you know what I'm talking about. Then we go into another match and everyone has super speed. Stuff like this still happens occasionally in MW2 and Black Ops. It doesn't really bother me, but it's getting ridiculous when this happens every year. It's not like people asking for much. It's mostly a reskinned multiplayer and a 6 hour campaign. If that's what people like and how the companies make their cash, then fine. At least fix it up a little bit. I find it hard to believe they can't get/hire a team to fix these issues. 
 
I honestly don't believe the security in MW3 will be much better, at all. I'm wondering about other people's opinions though, do you guys think there will be less or no hacking/mods in MW3? 
 
Also, MW2, it came to the point where they told people to stop playing online because the hacking could mess up your account. I remember reading on the forums, Robert Bowling posted that people should try playing customs with their friends until the hacking was fixed.

I don't think "hacking" will ever totally be fixed in any online game or online service.  So long as there are immature kids with access to computers and the internet, there will be hackers.

I don't think "hacking" will ever totally be fixed in any online game or online service.  So long as there are immature kids with access to computers and the internet, there will be hackers.

@phish09 said:

I don't think "hacking" will ever totally be fixed in any online game or online service.  So long as there are immature kids with access to computers and the internet, there will be hackers.

True, but it seems to happen a lot less in other online games.  

@Intro said:

@phish09 said:

I don't think "hacking" will ever totally be fixed in any online game or online service.  So long as there are immature kids with access to computers and the internet, there will be hackers.

True, but it seems to happen a lot less in other online games.  

Cause lots more people play the COD games. 

@Intro said:

@phish09 said:

I don't think "hacking" will ever totally be fixed in any online game or online service.  So long as there are immature kids with access to computers and the internet, there will be hackers.

True, but it seems to happen a lot less in other online games.  

Cause lots more people play the COD games. 

@The_Laughing_Man said:

@Intro said:

@phish09 said:

I don't think "hacking" will ever totally be fixed in any online game or online service.  So long as there are immature kids with access to computers and the internet, there will be hackers.

True, but it seems to happen a lot less in other online games.  

Cause lots more people play the COD games. 

I don't think that's the main reason. I think it's because it's so easy. CoD is a game where kids can go and Youtube how to do this within 15 minutes. Other games aren't that easy, if they were, they'd be hacked a lot too.

It won't be any different. 

Nope. People have been hacking games to cheat since games have existed.

@Intro said:

@The_Laughing_Man said:

@Intro said:

@phish09 said:

I don't think "hacking" will ever totally be fixed in any online game or online service.  So long as there are immature kids with access to computers and the internet, there will be hackers.

True, but it seems to happen a lot less in other online games.  

Cause lots more people play the COD games. 

I don't think that's the main reason. I think it's because it's so easy. CoD is a game where kids can go and Youtube how to do this within 15 minutes. Other games aren't that easy, if they were, they'd be hacked a lot too.

Yes....yes it is.  The guys even said with the COD games" WHen you have this many people beating on it. Its bound to break"   Its because lots of people play it and lots of people wanna look lke they are better on it. So yes..its hacked more because more people play it. 

@The_Laughing_Man said:

@Intro said:

@The_Laughing_Man said:

@Intro said:

@phish09 said:

I don't think "hacking" will ever totally be fixed in any online game or online service.  So long as there are immature kids with access to computers and the internet, there will be hackers.

True, but it seems to happen a lot less in other online games.  

Cause lots more people play the COD games. 

I don't think that's the main reason. I think it's because it's so easy. CoD is a game where kids can go and Youtube how to do this within 15 minutes. Other games aren't that easy, if they were, they'd be hacked a lot too.

Yes....yes it is.  The guys even said with the COD games" WHen you have this many people beating on it. Its bound to break"   Its because lots of people play it and lots of people wanna look lke they are better on it. So yes..its hacked more because more people play it. 

It is like viruses.  The reason there are very few on Mac isn't because Apple have a super secure platform or that writing for Mac is much harder - it is because lots more ppl have a PC.

As long as there are games people will hack them. Fact.

How about when games like Gears of War 1 was in the top 3 most played game on XBL? It was never hacked. Gears 2 was top 5 at one point, it was hacked once and fixed within a month, not getting hacked again. The hack that hit Gears 2 wasn't even possible to do when the game launched, it was a security flaw happened in an update. (I know with my avatar, I'm speaking like a fanboy, but those are just two examples that come to mind. I will admit that game has a huge flaws when it comes to online, but it doesn't get hacked.) 
 
I can agree that more people = more cheating is true to some degree, but I think the hacking is mostly due to Infinity Ward's and Treyarch's fault.

How about when games like Gears of War 1 was in the top 3 most played game on XBL? It was never hacked. Gears 2 was top 5 at one point, it was hacked once and fixed within a month, not getting hacked again. The hack that hit Gears 2 wasn't even possible to do when the game launched, it was a security flaw happened in an update. (I know with my avatar, I'm speaking like a fanboy, but those are just two examples that come to mind. I will admit that game has a huge flaws when it comes to online, but it doesn't get hacked.)  I can agree that more people = more cheating is true to some degree, but I think the hacking is mostly due to Infinity Ward's and Treyarch's fault.

@Intro: I'm pretty sure there were at least two times the number of people who played Modern Warfare 2 than there were those who played Gears of War 2.

I just wish the PC version would have dedicated servers, and that would fix it for PC.  I almost never saw hacking on CoD4 pc, and when there was hacking server admins would ban them instantly.  I see it often-ish (not as much anymore though, seems a lot of them moved on to Black Ops I guess) in MW2 though.
 
Does suck for the console crowd, I played MW2 on Xbox 360 quite a bit as well as some on PS3 and the hacking sucked.

No. The CoD games will always get hacked to shit.

No, there is no motivation as they will still sell gajillions.

Activision doesn't give a damn about hacking so I expect this issue won't be fixed in November.

The main reason that people hack on CoD4 and MW2 and WaW is because they're old and not many people play them anymore. They don't get security updates and such, and when the new CoD comes out each year the previous one is effectively dead. But no, I kinda doubt that MW3 fill fare any better on the security front after the next CoD comes out. Bowling has said that their post-launch support for it will be better than MW2 though, although I don't think he's mentioned anything about security stuff after the game dies.

if we're lucky and i mean REALLY lucky then yea it's possible! however considering infinity wards history with bugs in MW2 and the COD series in general i think it will depend on how much they actually pay attention to it and i think it will also depend on how well its beta tested if its anything like MW2 or black ops was in terms of testing?....we're screwed 

if we're lucky and i mean REALLY lucky then yea it's possible! however considering infinity wards history with bugs in MW2 and the COD series in general i think it will depend on how much they actually pay attention to it and i think it will also depend on how well its beta tested if its anything like MW2 or black ops was in terms of testing?....we're screwed 

@Intro: *looks at title*

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You so funny.

Microsoft seems to the only proactive company that targets hackers and bans their consoles.

Activision doesn't give a damn about hacking so I expect this issue won't be fixed in November.

You can't just 'fix' hacking.

I think the problem stems from a lack of enforcement on activsions part . Especially  on consoles .

Hackers will always find a way. It sucks, but that's how it works.

I'm going to have to go ahead and say no.

Cod is a huge target because of the numbers playing it. Hacking will continue to be a issue if they ignore the problem like the past titles. Hopefully part of Beachhead's job is to try an stay ahead of hacks.

Black Ops got patched fairly quick and from what I've played recently , there doesnt seem to be any game breaking exploits.

MW2 went to hell because that game was pretty dead int he water like 3 months after it came out due to the massive fallout from the West/Zampella stuff.