does anyone think that MW3 will improve the COD experience overall?...or will it still retain the problems that the series is known for  and possibly create new ones

No I do not.

think it will be the same.

The feel of the gameplay will be similar, the set-pieces will have gotten considerably bigger. Whether that's enough for you depends entirely on whether you have gotten bored of the formula at this point.

It will either be the same or worse, at this point the cod series has nowhere to go but down until they change there game model.

I think the trailer speaks for itself.

It'll be the same because money.

It'll be a lot more of the same.

I doubt it will improve anything of significance.

Same. It's CoD. That's what it does.

More of the same, but you never know.

I hope it's more of the same.

It will be terrible just like MW2

After watching the e3 demos, mw3 is just a level pack for mw2. There is absolutely nothing new besides that scope switching thing, which is minor as hell.

My prediction: Mostly new level geometry (but mod'ed from pre-gen'ed templates), new level scripts, some new textures, new voice work, new writing. Re-use of most of the sounds, character models and animations, level props (stuff lying around), 100% game code re-use. Change some menus up and some edit-able parameters in the game engine - damage mods, speeds, etc.

Pretty much a full expansion pack as in the classic PC days but at $60 instead of $30-$40.

@canucks23 said:

After watching the e3 demos, mw3 is just a level pack for mw2. There is absolutely nothing new besides that scope switching thing, which is minor as hell.

Thats really the only change they've mentioned. The horde mode thing is new I guess. But Black Ops had zombies which is basically horde mode.

i personally think its their attempt at an enchanced rehash of MW2 im not saying it doesnt have new featured but it looks like i've played it before

@blacklabeldomm said:

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The second half of MW3 is a bejeweled clone. That's the big reveal.

I'd buy that.

More of the same, and we would be lucky to be getting that with everything that's happened.

It'll likely be exactly the same.  I'm hoping they'll either give the series a break following MW3 or at least go for something completely different, but I know business and money will likely see to it that it doesn't...

It'll be more of the same, but the same is pretty damn fun.

Haha nice spoiler.

The latter.

Worst because it's not entirely the infinityward team. It's going to flop even more than treyarch games, or might get closer to their score on gamerankings.

@blacklabeldomm said:

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The second half of MW3 is a bejeweled clone. That's the big reveal.

you GENIUS

No dedicated servers again = no buy, fuck IW.

No dedicated servers again = no buy, fuck IW.

@faunt: It isn't Activision because if it were then Black Ops wouldn't have dedicated server support either.

@faunt: What a great insightful scoop into the offices at IW.

As for the question, are the two mutually exclusive?

I believe it'll be the same. If they did something other than reskin it, they would lose money.

According to that 10 minute E3 demo, it looks like more of the same... which is good. I like Call of Duty. If I want to play something "different," then I'll pop the Battlefield 3 disk into my console.

It looks exactly like the game they've released for the last four years.

It will be the same game as the other ones, just with new maps.

I'm fairly certain sure you're still gonna shoot dudes in the face, so yeah.

I think that it'll be more of a refinement than a brand new experience. 

I will be pleasantly surprised if it matches the amazing single player experience of 4 and MW2.

It will redefine first person shooting.

Well, I bought MW2's CE, and I'm definitely not buying this one's. I'll probably wait for the whole campaign to hit Youtube, watch it, then if I like it, buy it. I'm already a skeptic.

More of the same with the addition of about half a dozen guns.

I don't know about retaining the problems, but I think it will retain the thrilling single player experience, whether you're into that or not. It pulled me in on MW2, so we'll have to see if I don't mind another exciting yet somewhat similar experience this next go.

its going to be alot of the same just like the last one was. a big bowl of bland. it will still sell just as good as the last one.

not saying that im not gonna buy it, the single reason is the "co-op" since that was so fucking great in the last one and thats the only thing exiting about it

i don't see how " more of the same " can't be viewed as good, since thats what most people want - more CoD   

More of the same, if you think anything else, you're crazy.

this will be the first COD in a long time i dont buy. it needs to change considerably before ill pay for the same game again.

I predict that it will be moderately better than Modern Warfare 2. It's a competent shooter, but it's still the same old COD game we've been playing for years. Well, at least it's not bad as Modern Warfare 2. But you know what's the sad part, almost every high profile gaming website will still flourish it with gushing praise and it will still be nominated for multiple GOTY awards. 

im not going to buy this game either...  at this point i cant tell if any meaningful improvements are going to be added to the game but im assuming they wont.