Wow... I hate Call of Duty: World At War

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Posted by Jok3r (61 posts) -

I finally got my 360s disc drive to start working today so I put in CoD: W@W and although I'm pretty experienced with the games multiplayer (first prestige level 37), I've only completed a little less than half of the single player, and apparently for good reason. Now, by this point, most people know that the multiplayer side of World at War is decent, its fun to play but it copies nearly everything off of the previous game, so there isn't much new content. I've always played the game's multiplayer on and off whenever I had nothing else to play but I was never too interested in the single player but lately I've been wanting to start getting achievements again so I headed straight into single player, from where I had left off previously.

And let me say... this game sucks. I encountered a lot of issues with the hit detection when I was using a scoped rifle and the enemy AI was awful, some of the worst I've seen in recent months. And the fact that sometimes enemies could shoot you from incredible distances away and hit you but at other times be a few feet away and miss many...many times is just unreasonable. After seeing things like this in just the regular difficulty, I can only imagine that veteran will require no skill on outsmarting the AI but instead will be about, camping a spot and learning to throw back grenades with incredible dexterity.

In the end, I completed one or maybe two missions so I'm a little bit over the half way mark, and then I got side tracked with AIM and decided to stop playing. I think I'll be playing it a considerable amount the next few days because I hope to beat the game in order to write a review about it. But be warned, this game is not good.
#1 Posted by Jok3r (61 posts) -

I finally got my 360s disc drive to start working today so I put in CoD: W@W and although I'm pretty experienced with the games multiplayer (first prestige level 37), I've only completed a little less than half of the single player, and apparently for good reason. Now, by this point, most people know that the multiplayer side of World at War is decent, its fun to play but it copies nearly everything off of the previous game, so there isn't much new content. I've always played the game's multiplayer on and off whenever I had nothing else to play but I was never too interested in the single player but lately I've been wanting to start getting achievements again so I headed straight into single player, from where I had left off previously.

And let me say... this game sucks. I encountered a lot of issues with the hit detection when I was using a scoped rifle and the enemy AI was awful, some of the worst I've seen in recent months. And the fact that sometimes enemies could shoot you from incredible distances away and hit you but at other times be a few feet away and miss many...many times is just unreasonable. After seeing things like this in just the regular difficulty, I can only imagine that veteran will require no skill on outsmarting the AI but instead will be about, camping a spot and learning to throw back grenades with incredible dexterity.

In the end, I completed one or maybe two missions so I'm a little bit over the half way mark, and then I got side tracked with AIM and decided to stop playing. I think I'll be playing it a considerable amount the next few days because I hope to beat the game in order to write a review about it. But be warned, this game is not good.
#2 Posted by Hitchenson (4682 posts) -

Let me tell you somin' about Veteran. I hope you like constant grenade spam...

#3 Posted by Baillie (4281 posts) -

You hate it because the ai isn't great at the easy difficulty? Try putting it on Hardened or better yet, go for Veteran.

#4 Posted by Out_On_Bail (1549 posts) -

Yeah, veteran is definitely more about dodging the grenades. I'm not sure what you mean by 'no new content' as every map in CODWAW is completely different then COD4, the levels go up to 65, the weapons are obviously much different, dogs... there's a lot of subtle differences- just enough to constitute a different game. It is very similar though, but in the end it's still very much different.

#5 Posted by Baillie (4281 posts) -

The thing I like about it, is there is more variety in the weapons you'd want to use, no M16 RDS or Silenced MP5.

#6 Posted by Jok3r (61 posts) -

Yeah I knew I phrased that incorrectly even when I wrote it, but I was too lazy to change it. When I said no new content, I meant that the multiplayer just feels like a stripped down version of CoD4 with map mods and gun mods. If you think about it, CoD4 had stuff the CoD:WaW is definetly lacking, like camos and the weapons seem  very unbalanced and there seem to be fewer weapons. Most people like to run around with MP40s or STGs, and too me that takes some of the fun out of the customization of your classes.

#7 Posted by T0mF5 (929 posts) -
@Baillie said:
" The thing I like about it, is there is more variety in the weapons you'd want to use, no M16 RDS or Silenced MP5. "
Did you ever hear of something called the MP40?
#8 Posted by marlow83 (239 posts) -

All those problems you mentioned- COD4 had 'em all. And try the game on Hardened and Veteran. Don't just assume if you're going to write a review.

#9 Edited by Al3xand3r (7574 posts) -

Isn't the AI simply as "bad" as in COD4? COD games never really were about AI, they were just about a lone soldier (ok, you often times had a squad too, but it was you who had control of the situation and if you didn't advance nothing did) taking on swarms of incompetent (and often times respawning) enemies and seeing spectacular set piece after set piece. Only Modern Warfare 2 will deviate from that and add actual AI and give the player some freedom in how to approach situations, be it with stealth or otherwise, which is probably another reason they don't call it COD.

#10 Posted by Baillie (4281 posts) -
@T0mF5: Yeah, obviously the MP40 is a good weapon, but it's nowhere near as overpowered to the rest of the arsenal like the M16 was.
#11 Posted by Jok3r (61 posts) -

In my opinion, there was just something much more 'epic' about CoD4s campaign that is just lacking here. The missions aren't really that fun to me, I simply enjoyed certain moments in  CoD4 more which made me not notice the bad AI as much, if that makes sense. hahah.

#12 Posted by Baillie (4281 posts) -

Yeah, I think everyone agrees that the campaign was much more enjoyable in 4 than it was in WaW.

#13 Posted by TooWalrus (13256 posts) -

I've really only played the first level, and it seemed alright. I really enjoy the multilayer component, though. I'm almost ready to prestige. Even if it does borrow everything from COD4, It's COD4 in WWII, and if you don't share Jeff's random hatred of WWII, it's a great game.

#14 Posted by aceedkins (192 posts) -

The soundtrack to the game is ridiculous. It's almost disrespectful given the subject matter. Take a look at this trailer

#15 Posted by VWGTI (1919 posts) -

I rather enjoyed it. I don't quite understand the hate, especially from people who hate it simply because Treyarch put it out. It's a solid game and worth a play. There are too many shitty FPS on the market to call this game bad.

#16 Posted by Baillie (4281 posts) -
@aceedkins said:
" The soundtrack to the game is ridiculous. It's almost disrespectful given the subject matter. Take a look at this trailer "
That song isn't in the game though, is it?
#17 Posted by Jok3r (61 posts) -

It's not even as though I want to dislike this game. I'm really trying to enjoy it a lot. It's just not making it easy because its really not good.

#18 Posted by pause422 (6239 posts) -

Yes, CoD WaW is pretty terrible and an embarassment of a game. Most of us know this.

#19 Posted by MrTpants (27 posts) -
@Baillie said:
"@aceedkins said:
" The soundtrack to the game is ridiculous. It's almost disrespectful given the subject matter. Take a look at this trailer "
That song isn't in the game though, is it?"
no its fan made though badass
#20 Posted by kmdrkul (3476 posts) -

All CoD games have had the worst fucking AI on the planet.  I haven't the slightest doubt in my mind that MW2 will as well.  Luckily these games have several redeemable qualities about them...

#21 Posted by Optiow (1745 posts) -

I did not mind World at War, although I still think the best Call of Duty is Finest Hour.

#22 Posted by T0mF5 (929 posts) -
@Baillie said:
"@T0mF5: Yeah, obviously the MP40 is a good weapon, but it's nowhere near as overpowered to the rest of the arsenal like the M16 was. "

If anything  it is more overpowered then the M16.
#23 Posted by Jok3r (61 posts) -
@T0mF5 said:
" @Baillie said:
"@T0mF5: Yeah, obviously the MP40 is a good weapon, but it's nowhere near as overpowered to the rest of the arsenal like the M16 was. "
If anything  it is more overpowered then the M16. "
i agree
#24 Posted by aceedkins (192 posts) -
@MrTpants: No. That isn't fanmade.
#25 Posted by teh_destroyer (3574 posts) -

For SP, COD4 was much better but I had a hard time getting into the multiplayer. COD5 SP is pretty weak, but the MP keeps it together and makes it fantastic.

#26 Posted by TheMustacheHero (6655 posts) -

You should hate Cod:WaW, Commissioner Gordon is in it!

#27 Posted by Pie (7110 posts) -

All i know is that the last mission has a very "epic" moment and that although im quite good at Online id much rather play a different FPS online

#28 Posted by T0mF5 (929 posts) -

@Pie said:

"All i know is that the last mission has a very "epic" moment and that although im quite good at Online id much rather play a different FPS online"


I did not encounter any "epic" moment when I played the last mission.

#29 Posted by CoverlessTech (749 posts) -

IMHO all the single player campaigns in all the CoD games have sucks. CoD4 had the privilege of a different setting so it felt fresh but it was really just a coat of paint on the same crappy linear gameplay that is featured in all the games. CoD is about multiplayer plain and simple.

#30 Posted by Hairydutchman (1040 posts) -
@T0mF5 said:
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@Pie said:

"All i know is that the last mission has a very "epic" moment and that although im quite good at Online id much rather play a different FPS online"


I did not encounter any "epic" moment when I played the last mission.

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I thought the ending was pretty cool.






#31 Posted by SzayelAporroGranz (46 posts) -
@Hairydutchman said:
" @T0mF5 said:
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@Pie said:

"All i know is that the last mission has a very "epic" moment and that although im quite good at Online id much rather play a different FPS online"


I did not encounter any "epic" moment when I played the last mission.

"
I thought the ending was pretty cool.

"
Yea same here and honestly I think it was more epic than the ending in COD4.

#32 Posted by Pie (7110 posts) -
@SzayelAporroGranz said:
" @Hairydutchman said:
" @T0mF5 said:
"

@Pie said:

"All i know is that the last mission has a very "epic" moment and that although im quite good at Online id much rather play a different FPS online"


I did not encounter any "epic" moment when I played the last mission.

"
I thought the ending was pretty cool.

"
Yea same here and honestly I think it was more epic than the ending in COD4. "
Thanks for agreeing with me guys
#33 Posted by Baillie (4281 posts) -

HUGS.

#34 Posted by grawly (63 posts) -

I didn't have any of those problems with the single player portion of the game, it was very forgettable though. As for the multiplayer I hated it, the levels with vehicles were just unplayable and grenade launchers must be the stupidest weapon to ever be implemented into a multiplayer fps.

#35 Posted by Pie (7110 posts) -
@grawly said:
" I didn't have any of those problems with the single player portion of the game, it was very forgettable though. As for the multiplayer I hated it, the levels with vehicles were just unplayable and grenade launchers must be the stupidest weapon to ever be implemented into a multiplayer fps. "
Grenade launchers were in Moder warfare
#36 Posted by PeasForFees (2411 posts) -
@SzayelAporroGranz said:
" @Hairydutchman said:
" @T0mF5 said:
"

@Pie said:

"All i know is that the last mission has a very "epic" moment and that although im quite good at Online id much rather play a different FPS online"


I did not encounter any "epic" moment when I played the last mission.

"
I thought the ending was pretty cool.

"
Yea same here and honestly I think it was more epic than the ending in COD4. "
I'm sorry but you are wrong
#37 Posted by grawly (63 posts) -
@Pie: True, but it was made pretty vocal that they were disliked and Treyarch didn't remove them.
#38 Posted by giyanks22 (2681 posts) -

Veteran is not full of bad AI Veteran is like the real fucking war.

#39 Posted by T0mF5 (929 posts) -
@PeasForFees said:
"@SzayelAporroGranz said:
" @Hairydutchman said:
" @T0mF5 said:
"

@Pie said:

"All i know is that the last mission has a very "epic" moment and that although im quite good at Online id much rather play a different FPS online"


I did not encounter any "epic" moment when I played the last mission.

"
I thought the ending was pretty cool.

"
Yea same here and honestly I think it was more epic than the ending in COD4. "
I'm sorry but you are wrong"
I honestly don't see how putting down a flag can be more epic then CoD4's ending
#40 Posted by Pie (7110 posts) -
@T0mF5 said:
" @PeasForFees said:
"@SzayelAporroGranz said:
" @Hairydutchman said:
" @T0mF5 said:
"

@Pie said:

"All i know is that the last mission has a very "epic" moment and that although im quite good at Online id much rather play a different FPS online"


I did not encounter any "epic" moment when I played the last mission.

"
I thought the ending was pretty cool.

"
Yea same here and honestly I think it was more epic than the ending in COD4. "
I'm sorry but you are wrong"
I honestly don't see how putting down a flag can be more epic then CoD4's ending "
It just evoked more of a feeling from me then shooting that fool.
#41 Posted by T0mF5 (929 posts) -
@Pie:
Did you even realize that your entire team died?
#42 Posted by PeasForFees (2411 posts) -
@Pie said:
" @T0mF5 said:
" @PeasForFees said:
"@SzayelAporroGranz said:
" @Hairydutchman said:
" @T0mF5 said:
"

@Pie said:

"All i know is that the last mission has a very "epic" moment and that although im quite good at Online id much rather play a different FPS online"


I did not encounter any "epic" moment when I played the last mission.

"
I thought the ending was pretty cool.

"
Yea same here and honestly I think it was more epic than the ending in COD4. "
I'm sorry but you are wrong"
I honestly don't see how putting down a flag can be more epic then CoD4's ending "
It just evoked more of a feeling from me then shooting that fool. "
Friends dying made it a better ending, no communist crap, woo flag amazing, not
#43 Posted by PeasForFees (2411 posts) -
@giyanks22 said:
" Veteran is not full of bad AI Veteran is like the real fucking war. "
I hope you are joking
#44 Posted by Pie (7110 posts) -
@T0mF5 said:
" @Pie: Did you even realize that your entire team died? "
Yes I did. Good stuff
#45 Posted by Pie (7110 posts) -
@T0mF5:
Did you even realize that i dont care what your opionion is?
#46 Posted by Ottosmann (68 posts) -

Go play CoD4.  Its far superior.
#47 Posted by boko52 (36 posts) -

In my opinion They both had pretty good Sp and the multiplayer was great on cod 4 but on Waw the multiplayer is awful, guns seem to be nearly as unconstant as the gears of war 2 weapons, Hey look i shot you 6 times and your still not dead, wait what you shot me once and i died ? what ?, Juggernaught seems to have gotten even worse, i swear its twice as powerful as it was on cod 4 : /
 
I just dont like this game, theo nly thing decent about it is the zombies mode, great fun and great story, i even wasted money to treyarch buying two zombies maps : /

#48 Edited by calidan777 (853 posts) -

LOL hit detection,maybe you just missed.I played through the game on normal and I'm about halfway through it on veteran and can tell you that on veteran the ai doesn't just sit there in front of you,lol.And WaW's campaign was just as good as Modern Warfare's (even better at times).Sorry if I'm coming across as a dick,I'm just sick of people hating on this game for no good reason other than it's not CoD4.

#49 Edited by Asurastrike (2173 posts) -

W@W felt like loosely associated missions rather than a progressive story (like what was in COD4). Even in coop I didn't feel that compelled to finish the game. Oh and...wtf was with the way it did splitscreen? Instead of cutting the screen in half it had 2 smaller screens set diagonal to eachother so 40% of my TV wasnt even being used.

#50 Posted by Agent47CSim2 (1085 posts) -

I actually liked the single player and hated the online. The online is full of gliches (which have now been fixed I know, but there still shouldn't have been any in the first place). People throwing random frags across the map and killing you as soon as you spawn, dogs that spawn kill you constantly, all of the later guns are over powered and there isn't that many good guns at lower ranks, The fact that snipers are all around quick scoping and no scoping and if you zoom in for more than a second your a noob. All of these and probobly many more I can't think of right now is why I don't like W@W's online.

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