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Resident Evil 5 is so far away right now. Why all the hate? You haven't played it, yet.

THANK YOU!

Someone shares my hate! :D

Down with Crapcom!

I dont know if its such a huge deal. You could move and shoot in the  Silent Hill games and those were pretty scary. The good ones at least.

Wow... if I had things coming after me I wouldn't run away, pivot 180 degrees, and the shoot.  I'd be running backwards and shooting.   A horror game shouldn't make you feel tense just because the control scheme limits you so much... that's just lame.

Ahaha. Crapcom. How original.

I'm sure the RE team can keep the tension while not making the controls half a decade out of date. That mechanic was pushing it's limits even when RE4 released, by not being able to strafe or shoot while moving. It's time they get with the modern day. I'm sure rehauling the controls won't "bastardize" the game.

So you hate Capcom because of this?  You haven't played it... you might end up liking it.

And I wouldn't bash a company that is churning out solid gold constantly this gen.

I hate Crapcom because they took the credits out of Okami for the Wii... I'll never forgive them for that.

People have been asking for moving while shooting since after RE1.... I'm as hardcore as a RE fan can getI've played every game and love most of them and RE4 and 5 have a ton of elements that outright piss me off but finally adding the realism that a person can do two things at once does not ruin the game. The lack of zombies, umbrella, and any horror or survival elements what so ever ruin it, not the fact Chris can move his feet and pull the trigger at the same time. Outbreak File #2 had movement while shooting with the classic fixed camera gameplay of the past and it was a good change but RE4 dropped it and now its good to see it back.

Welcome to 2008 TC, it must be a strange future indeed if this gameplay element is a shock too you.

"Resident Evil 5 is so far away right now. Why all the hate? You haven't played it, yet."

"I dont know if its such a huge deal. You could move and shoot in the  Silent Hill games and those were pretty scary. The good ones at least."

Well I'm sorry people, but I like variety, RE's gameplay was not outdated at all, it was simply different, but I guess you people love repetitive stuff, and good luck trying to have a good aim while moving...

Because people don't already do that in many other games already....

"The last survival horror element that RE had was to shoot without moving."

""The last survival horror element that RE had was to shoot without moving."

This sentence makes me chuckle. Clinging to outdated gameplay mechanics is a good way to get people to stop caring about your game. You can't say that you like variety and then turn around and fear changes to existing franchises. I see this as just getting with the times. Besides, it sounds like Capcom's going to make it an optional control change, anyway. Cool out.

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"Well I'm sorry people, but I like variety, RE's gameplay was not outdated at all, it was simply different, but I guess you people love repetitive stuff, and good luck trying to have a good aim while moving..."

""The last survival horror element that RE had was to shoot without moving."

This sentence makes me chuckle. Clinging to outdated gameplay mechanics is a good way to get people to stop caring about your game. You can't say that you like variety and then turn around and fear changes to existing franchises. I see this as just getting with the times. Besides, it sounds like Capcom's going to make it an optional control change, anyway. Cool out."

Well, it really depends on whether they are trying to make the game more realistic, or turning it into Gears of War. It's no secret that a lot of modern games have either taken influence, or attempted to be 'Gears of War'. Until we actually see the controls in action we can't make statements about whether they are a positive improvement, or a detrimental tack on.

This is retarded, i'd bet that you wanted to stick with pre-rendered, single camera backgrounds too, huh? Viva la Gears-esque Revolucion!

BLASPHEMY...I'M TOTALLY KILLING THIS GUYS FIRST BORN!!!

"Well, it really depends on whether they are trying to make the game more realistic, or turning it into Gears of War. It's no secret that a lot of modern games have either taken influence, or attempted to be 'Gears of War'. Until we actually see the controls in action we can't make statements about whether they are a positive improvement, or a detrimental tack on."

You know what's interesting is that you wouldn't see this same sort of passion in other equally respectable entetainment forms. You don't see people in literary circles, for example, clamoring for today's authors to abide by the Shakespearean standards. Why? Because it's generally recognized that Shakespeare's works and language were revolutionary for their time. Subsequent writers have built upon the foundation he created and have ultimately made works which are better fleshed out since they've had centuries worth of refinement. Shakespeare is still appreciated, but in a historical context.

"Bulldog19892 said:

"Well, it really depends on whether they are trying to make the game more realistic, or turning it into Gears of War. It's no secret that a lot of modern games have either taken influence, or attempted to be 'Gears of War'. Until we actually see the controls in action we can't make statements about whether they are a positive improvement, or a detrimental tack on."

This is ironic, considering even Dude Huge (Cliffster B.) mentioned that games like Resident Evil 4 were an inspiration to Gears of War."

Well said Jeff,its nice that you actually came in and said that, anyone else stating it would just turn into a full blown argument probably...its totally true as well, I just don't understand people that think in this day and age you could ever keep a game the same..look at Alone in the Dark that came out earlier this year, it did terrible and kinda tried the whole tank like weird views of past survivor horror games, and the camera was such a downfall of that game(on top of other problems) everything has to evolve and people need to realize this. I'm guessing the game will resemble Dead Space combat wise now, there you could slightly move forward and backward, and I believe aim with the trigger and right stick when zoomed in..will probably be the same here. Everyone that is against this just understand..the whole third person thing its doing isn't going to be 100% gears like I'm sure, they aren't going to add some cover mechanic or anything, and obvious they will adjust the A.I to these new controls, not make it super easy for you to walkthrough the game..just back off it a bit, its not like you've played it since its had its change yet, it has a long way off..unless you're going to TGS you have no idea how the product will turn out yet and feel.

"Mourne said:

"Bulldog19892 said:

"Well, it really depends on whether they are trying to make the game more realistic, or turning it into Gears of War. It's no secret that a lot of modern games have either taken influence, or attempted to be 'Gears of War'. Until we actually see the controls in action we can't make statements about whether they are a positive improvement, or a detrimental tack on."

This is ironic, considering even Dude Huge (Cliffster B.) mentioned that games like Resident Evil 4 were an inspiration to Gears of War."

Yes, the over-the-shoulder view and shooting style was influenced by RE4, but that doesn't mean RE5 can't be influenced by Gears. Just because Gears took influence from RE4, doesn't mean it's the same game. Gears was influenced by a lot of things. (yes, I know I used 'influence' four times in two sentences.)"

"As you can tell by my avatar, I'm a big Resident Evil guy. I was with the original game on the PlayStation right around its release, and have passionately followed the series since. The old tank controls just weren't cutting it anymore, and that's OK. Resident Evil 4's control scheme was really great for the game, but if they feel they can do better with another method--why should we stop them?"

"Bulldog19892 said:

"Mourne said:

"Bulldog19892 said:

"Well, it really depends on whether they are trying to make the game more realistic, or turning it into Gears of War. It's no secret that a lot of modern games have either taken influence, or attempted to be 'Gears of War'. Until we actually see the controls in action we can't make statements about whether they are a positive improvement, or a detrimental tack on."

This is ironic, considering even Dude Huge (Cliffster B.) mentioned that games like Resident Evil 4 were an inspiration to Gears of War."

Yes, the over-the-shoulder view and shooting style was influenced by RE4, but that doesn't mean RE5 can't be influenced by Gears. Just because Gears took influence from RE4, doesn't mean it's the same game. Gears was influenced by a lot of things. (yes, I know I used 'influence' four times in two sentences.)"

I just want to draw attention to something I posted quite a few posts ahead of your initial one:

Mourne said:

"As you can tell by my avatar, I'm a big Resident Evil guy. I was with the original game on the PlayStation right around its release, and have passionately followed the series since. The old tank controls just weren't cutting it anymore, and that's OK. Resident Evil 4's control scheme was really great for the game, but if they feel they can do better with another method--why should we stop them?"

So, basically: We're in agreement."

....so?

""The last survival horror element that RE had was to shoot without moving."

This sentence makes me chuckle. Clinging to outdated gameplay mechanics is a good way to get people to stop caring about your game. You can't say that you like variety and then turn around and fear changes to existing franchises. I see this as just getting with the times. Besides, it sounds like Capcom's going to make it an optional control change, anyway. Cool out.

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Perhaps some of us are speaking this way from experience? I know I have my particular viewpoint because some of my favorite series stayed on the consistency train and, as a result, the same thing given to me over and over made them lose their luster in my eyes. It's one thing to fall in love with a game because it feels fresh, new, exciting, and unlike anything else you've ever really experienced before. It's quite another when those same things are regurgitated five games later for the sake of supposed nostalgia. And to be blunt, I don't think Capcom is going to particularly mourn the loss of you as a potential customer if you choose to completely opt out of buying Resident Evil 5. Money talks and if they're able to make a good chunk of change by doing things the way they are right now, they won't be particularly inclined to revert to the ways of old. It's just good business.

 I was fine with the controls of RE4.  Could they be improved?  Yes.  Would I like an option to switch between Tank and Gears-like?  Yes.  Will I get it?  Probably not.

Thank god Capcom is fixing the controls. I might actually consider playing RE5 now... RE4 on Wii controlled abhorrently, and that was supposedly the best iteration of the controls.

Also, I don't think they're going to be including much "moving while shooting" as you imply. If you recall, one of the taglines for Gears of War was "stop and pop" as opposed to "run and gun." Sure the game didn't really turn out so much like that, the idea gets through. Is it really that big of a deal that you will be able to sidestep in RE5? To me it certainly is, and they seem to be responding adequately.

"I guess just some of you people won't understand until it happens to your favorite series."

Hopefully everyone won't be a perfect shot. Making it difficult to hit from a distance and so forth would keep it more real. More "survival horror" than "run and gun". 

I like Gears of War.
I like resident evil but hate the controls.

This is like a sandwich with mayonaise and sweet onion sauce. Fantastic.

I played the hell out of all the RE games and I absolutely loved 4.

I'm very much looking forward to RE5.

I've never knocked a game, until I've actually played it.

I agree 0% with the Topic Creator.

"I played the hell out of all the RE games and I absolutely loved 4.

I'm very much looking forward to RE5.

I've never knocked a game, until I've actually played it.

I agree 0% with the Topic Creator."

"THANK YOU!

Someone shares my hate! :D

Down with Crapcom!"

"brukaoru said:

"THANK YOU!

Someone shares my hate! :D

Down with Crapcom!"

So says the guy with the Devil may cry icon.  lol

Truth is, no one has even played the new control set up so no one should be making statements about its quality."

i would also like send a fuck you capcom for putting monster hunter 3 on the wii

The clunker controls in RE4 were terrible. Of course, that's coming from a PC gamer up to that point. Ignoring that a genre you respect is moving forward makes you a hermit gamer, something nobody wants to be. And Capcom happens to be a very capable development studio, with a solid stable of quality titles. They usually make good decisions about controls. You should bear with them on this one.

"xxNBxx said:

"brukaoru said:

"THANK YOU!
Someone shares my hate! :D
Down with Crapcom!"

So says the guy with the Devil may cry icon.  lol
Truth is, no one has even played the new control set up so no one should be making statements about its quality."

Lmao. Even if you hate Capcom, you can't hate DMC."

Perhaps next time you can add a little bit more maturity to your argument.

"shadowjak said:

"xxNBxx said:

"brukaoru said:

"THANK YOU!
Someone shares my hate! :D
Down with Crapcom!"

So says the guy with the Devil may cry icon.  lol
Truth is, no one has even played the new control set up so no one should be making statements about its quality."

Lmao. Even if you hate Capcom, you can't hate DMC."

If you read my second post, you would know why I hate Capcom, they took the credits out of Okami in the Wii port, and that is unacceptable to me. Therefore any game I want from them anymore, I am buying used or not getting at all if it's DLC only. Unfortunately, Capcom still holds the rights to DMC, but Dante is my favorite character, so I'll continue using an icon of him for awhile."

"I've never played an RE game before since I didn't have the console for them, so I have no ideas what to expect. A gears-style game would be alright I suppose.  I guess the old controls for the previous RE games were too clunky?"

"shadowjak said:

"xxNBxx said:

"brukaoru said:

"THANK YOU!
Someone shares my hate! :D
Down with Crapcom!"

So says the guy with the Devil may cry icon.  lol
Truth is, no one has even played the new control set up so no one should be making statements about its quality."

Lmao. Even if you hate Capcom, you can't hate DMC."

If you read my second post, you would know why I hate Capcom, they took the credits out of Okami in the Wii port, and that is unacceptable to me. Therefore any game I want from them anymore, I am buying used or not getting at all if it's DLC only. Unfortunately, Capcom still holds the rights to DMC, but Dante is my favorite character, so I'll continue using an icon of him for awhile."

"What the hell does that mean?  They "took the credits out of Okami"?  So it's missing end game credits at the end of the game? So?"

"I read your second post. before I posted my comment.   For someone that feels so much hate to a company you would think you would pick another icon.   Keeping that icon just shows either your emo and you hate yourself, or you are just to lazy to get another icon.  lol"

>_>

In a real life zombie situation: Would you run-stop-shoot at a pack of flesh eating zombie that can run? Maybe it was good for the early game when they were slower but come on....  Plus, if you're complaining don't buy the damned game. No one is forcing you to, you stupid bitch. God damn I hate people who complain about every fuckin' thing.