Personality, I thought that DP had a great story, but the game play was awful! From what I've heard from people who already played Catherine (out in Japan), its puzzle gameplay is repetitive is dumb, whereas the story is pretty good. Although I have no problem watching people play games with shit gameplay (Deadly Premonition), I ain't spending money on a game if the gameplay is awful. Persona 3/4's gameplay was a tried/true RPG standard, so I can't hate it that much, but Catherine's is both kinda unique and awful. Does anyone else see Catherine as Deadly Premonition 2.0, where reviews will phrase the story but shit on the game play? The issue is that, although Atlus are bros, I can't support games like this, even if the story interests me.

Yeah, I guess that would be an accurate comparison for the reasons you listed. Unlike yourself, I'm willing to overlook a lot of shit for a story haha.

Deadly premonition is a great story with broken gameplay and bad visuals, but catherine will have repetitive gameplay and really good graphics, not to mention the amazing story. Also Catherine is published by a huge company and has some renown, so no, im pretty sure its gonna be fine.

I think it's a stretch to presume that Catherine will receive quite the same reception that Deadly Premonition did, as its production values are much higher. I mean, from a technical standpoint in general, DP is a steaming turd. Your observations about Catherine's gameplay are valid, but it's not like people will take one look at the game and say it's broken.

You also have to realize, the Endurance Run was a huge factor in DP's popularity on Giant Bomb. If they hadn't done it, it would probably be just another bad low-budget game to most of us.

I have to agree that the gameplay in Catherine doesn't exactly look compelling, but the story seems pretty interesting. I'm definitely going to watch a playthrough of it.

I feel completely different to you about Deadly Premonition, so I can't say. All I can say is that hopefully I will love Catherine as much as I love DP, and in that way they will be similar.

Almost to my own suprise I ordered the game. The block running looks simplistic, but it's probably fun too. I hope it is, and then there's the promising looking storyline.

I can't play that game with that gameplay. It's just too painful. I would LOVE to see someone else play through it though.

Did you guys not play the demo? I actually thought it was quite enjoyable, although we've all heard that it gets insanely challenging towards the end; nonetheless, I applaud Atlus for trying something new.

As for those of you considering to watch someone else play--seems like a lame choice. Actually, the whole game is about choice, isn't it? Why leave it to someone else?

I want to watch hot cartoon girls fuck.

This game is for me. And you.

The game's a puzzle game. I'd like to see the criticisms of those you mentioned as the only reason they probably don't like it is because they don't like puzzle games of that type or because they were expecting something else, not because Atlus'  vision for the gameplay turned out shitty. Plus, it apparently gets really hard, which I appreciate. 
 
So no, I don't think it will be a DP situation by what you stated even though I've never played DP.

Yo, do you like puzzle games? You'll like the gameplay in Catherine because it's a goddamn puzzle game. If you don't like puzzle games....you probably won't. Most of the reviews I've seen out of Japan were positive.

 @Mcfart said:

Personality, I thought that DP had a great story, but the game play was awful! From what I've heard from people who already played Catherine (out in Japan), its puzzle gameplay is repetitive is dumb, whereas the story is pretty good. Although I have no problem watching people play games with shit gameplay (Deadly Premonition), I ain't spending money on a game if the gameplay is awful. Persona 3/4's gameplay was a tried/true RPG standard, so I can't hate it that much, but Catherine's is both kinda unique and awful. Does anyone else see Catherine as Deadly Premonition 2.0, where reviews will phrase the story but shit on the game play? The issue is that, although Atlus are bros, I can't support games like this, even if the story interests me.

Yo they should of made Catherine a first person shooter. I don't mind shooting guys in the head for 20 hours but a puzzle game... MAN FUCK THAT!!

Yo they should of made Catherine a first person shooter. I don't mind shooting guys in the head for 20 hours but a puzzle game... MAN FUCK THAT!!

but Catherine actually plays well unlike DP.

@Catolf said:

@RE_Player92 said:

Yo they should of made Catherine a first person shooter. I don't mind shooting guys in the head for 20 hours but a puzzle game... MAN FUCK THAT!!

I wanna shoot sheep men with a pillow gun. Make it happen Atlus.

Atlus get this this woman a job ASAP!!

I thought the gameplay was fun in the JP demo.

It didn't occur to me that people would say stuff like Catherine's gameplay would be awful; it looks like a pretty good puzzle game. Those boss stages look tense, yo.

@Catolf said:

I wanna shoot sheep men with a pillow gun. Make it happen Atlus.

Oh yes, this.

@Catolf said:

I wanna shoot sheep men with a pillow gun. Make it happen Atlus.

Oh yes, this.

Catherine doesn't look like it has broken ass gameplay, so no.

Just put the difficulty on very easy and enjoy the story.

I get the feeling some people don't want to think that a puzzle game could be story-driven.

Gameplay felt fine to me, though maneuvering behind boxes can be disorienting since the controls effectively reverse. I guess it isn't everyone's cup of tea but I didn't expect people to be so down on the climbing sections.

Personality, I thought that DP had a great story, but the game play was awful! From what I've heard from people who already played Catherine (out in Japan), its puzzle gameplay is repetitive is dumb, whereas the story is pretty good. Although I have no problem watching people play games with shit gameplay (Deadly Premonition), I ain't spending money on a game if the gameplay is awful. Persona 3/4's gameplay was a tried/true RPG standard, so I can't hate it that much, but Catherine's is both kinda unique and awful. Does anyone else see Catherine as Deadly Premonition 2.0, where reviews will phrase the story but shit on the game play? The issue is that, although Atlus are bros, I can't support games like this, even if the story interests me.

Gameplay felt fine to me, though maneuvering behind boxes can be disorienting since the controls effectively reverse. I guess it isn't everyone's cup of tea but I didn't expect people to be so down on the climbing sections.

I get the feeling some people don't want to think that a puzzle game could be story-driven.

The only thing broken in Catherine is Rapunzel

I don´t mind awful gameplay if the story (or even better) the narrative system/semiotics used to potrait it is great. Flower, Sun and Rain is a clear example of this. It´s definitively one of my favorite games of all time and its gameplay (and graphics) are shit, but in the end, the experience of playing through it was worthy.

I was playing Tetris the other day. You just do the same thing over and over again. I think they should make it less repetitive by adding in a + block.

The gameplay looks great, don't confuse different with bad.

Don't think that Catherine will be as quirky or culty as Deadly Premonition but it will definitely have a fan following.

@Mcfart: Actually, no, I have heard very little contempt for Catherine's gameplay from  people online who's opinion I take seriously+actually played the game.  I have read plenty of low-content shitposts from people who haven't played it, though.  .....Also, as someone who loves DP, the gameplay in DP is literally broken. It doesn't work. I've played the demo, Catherine works just fine.

I guess you're just going to have to get outside of your comfort zone if you think you have to.

As someone who has completed the Japanese version of the game, I can assure you that, outside of some frustration due to player error at times, the puzzle gameplay in Catherine is excellent.

If you don't like puzzles you will not enjoy the gameplay. If you do like puzzles, you will learn the mechanics and enjoy the game. That's all there is to it.

unlike DP, Catherine actually looks polished.

Wasn't DP more of a survival horror than an puzzle RPG?  It's a strange choice of gameplay for an RPG, but I'm down for fun puzzles.  At least it won't be as grinding as traditional JRPG combat.