The whole "He doesn't know how it happened" thing actually kind of bothers me more. Even if it gets explained later on, it sounds like a narrative contrivance. That simply isn't how it works in real life. Well, unless you're in an anime.

Oh Cat, you crazy

@SoldierG654342: As I've said 50 balillion times, I'm sure it's a good game and I sure that many people will enjoy it. My gameplay choice is simply to not play it. That is completely valid.

And for fucks sake, at some point I must finish SH2. I didn't know about that, but if the game didn't set it up in such a way that I was comfortable with the action, my solution might very well be to not finish the game. That thing is on my "games to get played" shelf, I just need the right mindset to get through it in.

@rebgav: Well, it fit the technical definition of an argument, but it certainly never came to such blows.

However, there are certainly works of fiction, interactive and otherwise, that I have not enjoyed because I was uncomfortable with or actively hated the characters. Catherine may be a great experience, but there are many of those. If I am making a choice between this another experience of equivalent, or slightly lesser, quality I would prefer the latter. I don't think that others should make that call (though everybody really ought to be staunchly anti-cheating), but I'm comfortable with it.

@CaptainCody: Pretty much this

@nintendoeats said: 

The whole "He doesn't know how it happened" thing actually kind of bothers me more. Even if it gets explained later on, it sounds like a narrative contrivance. That simply isn't how it works in real life. Well, unless you're in an anime.

He's drunk the night he meets her. I've never been drunk before, but I'm not sure people are in their right state of mind when they are.

Y'know, I could sit here and make an intelligent rebuttal to every single one of yahtzee's points, but nobody will read it and no one will care. So instead, I'll offer this piece of insight: 
Yahtzee's a cunt.  

Yahtzee stopped being funny a long time ago. There's a difference between shitting on bad games, pointing out flaws, and just shitting on everything while trying to be funny. It's only funny if it's true, and he just shits on everything now.