She's basically an inferior Kanji. 
 
Sure, when she gets God Hand she will fuck shit up, but up until that point she's the worst character for 70% of the game. And in pure damage output:  Kanji+Primalforcex2> Chie+God Hand+powercharge
 
-She doesn't get any Ice skills beyond Bufula, but she has pretty high magic(WTF?) 
-She is the worst buffer in the game. She only gets Tarukaja.
-Her strength  is on par with  Yosuke and she seriously loses out to Kanji
-And the worst of all: 
 
Between Blackspot and Rainy death: she doesn't gain a single useful physical skill. And rainy death gets replaced with God Hand three levels later(WTF?)  Heat wave is an awful skil and inferior to Rampage. Blackspot has a nice crit rate and accuracy, but, its lack of attack power puts her below every other party member in terms of damage. Her lack of buffs and healing spells mean she basically serves no purpose at all in combat.The only advantage she has over Kanji is multi-phys attacks, but, Heat Wave is awful and never hits and Rampage stops being useful around level 47. So that's not really an advantage.... They could have easily fixed this by giving Chie:
 
-A good/decent mId-phys instead of  the absolute worst when she gets Heat Wave
-Learning a heavy-phys at level 50-55
-Instead of Tarukaja, give her debuffs
-Maybe give her an own element:P bring back Aqua-Aques-Aquadyne!....Or put those magic points she has into attack
 
As she is now, the only (arguably) worse character in combat is Naoto:(

You know the whole balancing issues like this really don't bother me, the best bit of Persona 4 was the story and Chie was one of many awesome characters.

Who cares, she's Chie!

Naoto fucking sucks, that's not even debatable.  The only thing she's got going for her are her light/dark spells, but in Persona 4 those are so unreliable that you should only bother casting them on the shadows who are weak to it.  She's also got the Megido- spells, but those are practically useless.
 
I don't remember much about battle stuff in the game, but I believe Chie was mostly physical and so was Kanji.  Obviously, Kanji was much more powerful so, yeah, Kanji > Chie.  Anyways, you don't need any of them when you have Teddie, Yukiko and Yosuke!

"

You know the whole balancing issues like this really don't bother me, the best bit of Persona 4 was the story and Chie was one of many awesome characters.

"

" Who cares, she's Chie! "

Whatever, she eats steak.

Just use every character and beat the game. I always rotate all the characters no matter how good or bad they are and never had any problems or had to grind. 
 
Persona  4 is much too good of a game to get caught in comparing characters when as long as your main is well balanced it really doesn't matter who is in your party.

" Naoto fucking sucks, that's not even debatable.  The only thing she's got going for her are her light/dark spells, but in Persona 4 those are so unreliable that you should only bother casting them on the shadows who are weak to it.  She's also got the Megido- spells, but those are practically useless.  I don't remember much about battle stuff in the game, but I believe Chie was mostly physical and so was Kanji.  Obviously, Kanji was much more powerful so, yeah, Kanji > Chie.  Anyways, you don't need any of them when you have Teddie, Yukiko and Yosuke! "

This should either be on the Chie forums or the Persona 4 forums. Anyways, Chie wins because she has the coolest looking special attack in the game.

" This should either be on the Chie forums or the Persona 4 forums. Anyways, Chie wins because she has the coolest looking special attack in the game. "

It's a bug right now on the site.  You probably did post it in the P4 forums.

I don't think Chie is that much weaker than Kanji. God's Hand + Power Charge is only slightly weaker than Primal Charge x 2. She is a terrible buffer but she gets Agneyastra.

Chie kicks tanks into orbit. I like that in a girl.

" I don't think Chie is that much weaker than Kanji. God's Hand + Power Charge is only slightly weaker than Primal Charge x 2. She is a terrible buffer but she gets Agneyastra. "

" Naoto fucking sucks, that's not even debatable.  The only thing she's got going for her are her light/dark spells, but in Persona 4 those are so unreliable that you should only bother casting them on the shadows who are weak to it.  Ske! "

" Naoto's crazy high luck does guarantee that almost any random encouter will be a joke. Naoto also, only sucks in 60% of the time she's usable as opposed to Chie. 
 
As a side note, Diarahan will outlaw the need of Yukiko healing! I'd rather take Kanji's manly ridiculous attack power.best team is team Bro(Kanji,Teddie,Yosuke)   THEY CAN KEEP IT REAL, SON "

I'm sorry, but galactic punt evens pretty much everything out.  You also forget the painful HP cost of two primal forces.  Since it's proportional to the character's Max HP, Kanji will always be giving up nearly half his health to deal that damage.
 
As for Naoto, people underestimate just how good mahamaon/mamudoon + light/dark boost + high luck stats are for a normal encounter.  It is actually the most SP efficient way to deal with random encounters, sans those that are str or nul.  That said, she has little to no sue for a boss fight.  Even the chakra ring doesn't make megidoloan spam all the viable.

Kanji is great and all, but Chie is Chie. I mean, come on! I can't live without "Ah ha! Is this our chance?"
 
I say replace Yosuke with Kanji. Chie, Kanji, and Yukiko.

" That said, she has little to no sue for a boss fight.  Even the chakra ring doesn't make megidoloan spam all the viable. "

You're not seriously min/maxing in Persona 4, are you? 
 
The game was definitely not difficult enough to require swapping out characters or using a specific team for any fight. Persona 3 required more strategy when it came to what team to take to fights and even then there was a ton of freedom to use who you wanted beyond not taking someone who would, for example, spam bufu on a boss that absorbed ice attacks. Since Persona 4 gave you the ability to control your teammates, this became a non-issue as you can avoid casting those spells and focus on buffs and heals, essentially letting you bring whoever you want. 
 
Maybe Chie is a weaker character than others, but I and many others certainly didn't notice having used her from start to finish with no problems. *shrugs*

Well let's be honest here, Chie got the short end of the stick in not being the most completely overpowered, awesome character in the game like she should be.

She's got one of the best follow up attacks though - Galactic Punt. Although I did also appreciate Kanji's.

" @Turambar said:

" That said, she has little to no sue for a boss fight.  Even the chakra ring doesn't make megidoloan spam all the viable. "

And those are the most important battle in the game.  That's why I was so mad that I had stuck with her as my 3rd character when it came to the bosses.  She was utterly useless... "

Wait... what did luck do?  Anyways, Naoto's physicals sucked ass and so did her stupid guns.  I heavily doubt that I would have preferred her over Chie if I chose differently.

And, for the second, I've got this to say: wrong, wrong and WRONG!  Yukiko was probably the most useful character in the game!  Her enormous magic stat made Agidyne and her other spells do tons of damage late game.

  Along with her buffing or debuffing

, she was a perfect healer and, combined with Teddie   made it so I never feared for my life late game.  If one was out, the other could resurrect/heal in that character's stead, and both served as support and as attackers.  Teddie was also a great magic caster with his ice spells. "

 I'm sorry, but galactic punt evens pretty much everything out.  You also forget the painful HP cost of two primal forces.  Since it's proportional to the character's Max HP, Kanji will always be giving up nearly half his health to deal that damage.  

 

" You're not seriously min/maxing in Persona 4, are you? 
 
The game was definitely not difficult enough to require swapping out characters or using a specific team for any fight. Persona 3 required more strategy when it came to what team to take to fights and even then there was a ton of freedom to use who you wanted beyond not taking someone who would, for example, spam bufu on a boss that absorbed ice attacks. Since Persona 4 gave you the ability to control your teammates, this became a non-issue as you can avoid casting those spells and focus on buffs and heals, essentially letting you bring whoever you want.  Maybe Chie is a weaker character than others, but I and many others certainly didn't notice having used her from start to finish with no problems. *shrugs* "

" Well let's be honest here, Chie got the short end of the stick in not being the most completely overpowered, awesome character in the game like she should be. "

" @Turambar: Ameno-Sagiri and Izanami were pains to go against with Naoto in my team.  I do remember the Hama- and Mudo- spells to be pretty useful in Magatsu Inaba and sometimes in Paradise, but other than that... But yeah, I should have realized leveling up low leveled characters by bringing them in late dungeons was an easy feat.  Probably would have used the whole cast. "

You must not have Chie equiped right.  She is so, so much faster than Kanji.  MC, Yosuke and Chie all act before any enemy that you didn't even need to get first attacks.  And up her evasion and she'll never get hit.

She has Galactic Motherfucking Punt. Anything else is just gravy.

" @mutha3: Yeah... I had suspicions that Yukiko didn't have buffs/debuffs, didn't remember quite well.  But even then, Magic > Strength as it's way more useful to down shadows with elemental damage than with physical attacks.

 And if one healer got incapacitated, the other would be fully available to restore that character without wasting the turn of the Main Character or the other non-healer.  Since Teddie also had a great Magic stat, any shadow susceptible to ice or fire was nothing.  And Teddie, I'm positive, had some useful buffs that made Yukiko and the MC even more resilient and useful. 

Also, using magic doesn't waste any HP.  Yukiko had a butt load of MP so she could use her skills with no worries.  Good physicals with Kanji takes out a lot of HP—HP that you need to heal up later on.
 

" You must not have Chie equiped right.  She is so, so much faster than Kanji.  MC, Yosuke and Chie all act before any enemy that you didn't even need to get first attacks.  And up her evasion and she'll never get hit. "

" Primal Force has a nice crit chance  of  25% , the amount of enemies you'll encouter who are weak to fire are lower then that. Kanji has a  25% chance to knock down 100% of the enemies, while  Yukiko has a 100% chance to knock down 10-15%(its probably lower then that, most enemies in the game are weak to wind)of the enemies. "

Now, that this got moved to the Chie forum. I saw an epic thread made by Pepsiman a year ago, we must revive that for the sake of the Revolution!

Are we gonna start having a persona 4 tier list now?

" @mutha3 said:

" Primal Force has a nice crit chance  of  25% , the amount of enemies you'll encouter who are weak to fire are lower then that. Kanji has a  25% chance to knock down 100% of the enemies, while  Yukiko has a 100% chance to knock down 10-15%(its probably lower then that, most enemies in the game are weak to wind)of the enemies. "

But that's incorrect.  There are tons of enemies that have some type of resistance to physicals (Tanks, particularly).  And when you're caught against those enemies, it makes Kanji useless if they also have no weakness to electricity.  And when you're against those enemies, it's easy to down them with elementals instead.

  Also, I was only S. Link rank 2 with Kanji at the end of the game.  With Yukiko, I was S. Rank 10, so that also lead to my choice. "

" Are we gonna start having a persona 4 tier list now? "

" @mutha3:  Party buff and Mediahran cost quite a bit of SP. I ran through each dungeon in a single game-day, so until Fox's leaves became cheap enough, I would almost never cast these spells. "

Oh man... all of this is making me go crazy.  I NEED Persona 5!  I think I'll just go finish Revelations: Persona and play Persona 2, but they're just not the same...

" Oh man... all of this is making me go crazy.  I NEED Persona 5!  I think I'll just go finish Revelations: Persona and play Persona 2, but they're just not the same... "

Even when I realized that Chie's moveset wasn't going to improve, I didn't care. I just like using her.