PS3 players can use a Controller, Move or a Mouse and Keyboard

#1 Edited by rmanthorp (3949 posts) -

http://kotaku.com/5834542/an-hour-with-counter+strike-go

This is a great read.

Ahh!

I am REALLY excited about how this is shaping up, I just REALLY hope Valve can get Steamworks on XBL! Really I do, if PS3, PC and 360 players can all play a tight game of Counter-Strike that looks as good as Call of Duty, then game over. Valve wins my life. HYPE. I even like the sound of no money mode, and I KNOW people are going to hate it. In Valve I trust!

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#2 Edited by FluxWaveZ (19340 posts) -

Uhh... This seems like a bad idea, if there's no online filtering. 
 
Or, maybe they just presume anyone who really wants to play the game online in a competitive manner should get a mouse and keyboard. Kinda like a fightstick/fightpad for fighting games. 
 
Yeah, it's an exciting prospect that PS3, PC and Mac players will all be able to play together in their own little party. I don't believe the 360 will be invited, though.

#3 Posted by rmanthorp (3949 posts) -

@FluxWaveZ said:

Uhh... This seems like a bad idea, if there's no online filtering.

I'm sure there will be, as there is already in place with Steamworks on PS3 for Portal 2.

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#4 Posted by FluxWaveZ (19340 posts) -
@Rufi91 said: 

I'm sure there will be, as there is already in place with Steamworks on PS3 for Portal 2.

Ah, I didn't know that that was already in place. Neat. I feel much better about this feature now. Actually, I might even consider getting CS:GO now.
#5 Posted by rmanthorp (3949 posts) -

@FluxWaveZ said:

@Rufi91 said:

I'm sure there will be, as there is already in place with Steamworks on PS3 for Portal 2.

Ah, I didn't know that that was already in place. Neat. I feel much better about this feature now. Actually, I might even consider getting CS:GO now.

Yeah it's just such a nice option to have! I really hope 360 does get invited (and get steamworks for that matter) because I want every version to be connected and work well (I think if anything can do that it would be steamworks) Ah I just live in some false hope that everyone will play together seamlessly and there will be rainbows and happiness!

Either way I am super exited, I do understand the hate but I just wish people would almost consider it as a different beast to CSS.

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#6 Posted by rmanthorp (3949 posts) -

To quote David Jaffe: "Kumbaya mother fucker!"

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#7 Posted by Mikemcn (6988 posts) -

I think i'm having a stroke, everything I know is a lie, how will I know a PC from a PS3 anymore! The Very fabric of my gaming universe is being torn asunder, damn you gabe Newell, I knew you were trouble!

#8 Posted by DAFTPUNK (1213 posts) -

I am ready to play this game!

#9 Posted by AhmadMetallic (18955 posts) -

Ladies and gentlemen, I implore you..

#10 Edited by Three0neFive (2293 posts) -
@zodiac_motherfucker said:

ANYBODY WHO USES A MOUSE AND KEYBOARD IS FULL OF BITCH. YOU WANNA CLICK ON HEADS FOR POINTS THEN PLAY A FUCKING FLASH GAME WITH THE REST OF THE GIRLS IN THE SECRETARIAL POOL OTHERWISE MAN THE FUCK UP AND GRAB A FUCKING CONTROLLER

inferior butthurt consoletard detected.
 
All joking aside, this is pretty cool. Valve are one of the few developers you can trust when it comes to multiplatform development.
#11 Posted by scarace360 (4828 posts) -

Console people arnt getting on my server.

#12 Posted by WilliamRLBaker (4777 posts) -

So A completely subjagated online environments where pc players will refuse console players access to their servers and public valve servers PC players will be owning ps3 players because move wont be near as accurate and the ps3 uses generic usb drivers so hyper precision mice that pc users will be using wont work the same on the ps3 as they do on the pc? 
#13 Posted by PillClinton (3291 posts) -

Thanks again, Valve, for being the only major publisher without your head up your own ass.

#14 Posted by SeriouslyNow (8534 posts) -

@zodiac_motherfucker said:

ANYBODY WHO USES A MOUSE AND KEYBOARD IS FULL OF BITCH. YOU WANNA CLICK ON HEADS FOR POINTS THEN PLAY A FUCKING FLASH GAME WITH THE REST OF THE GIRLS IN THE SECRETARIAL POOL OTHERWISE MAN THE FUCK UP AND GRAB A FUCKING CONTROLLER
CRY SOME MORE brah
#15 Posted by StarvingGamer (8241 posts) -

I can't wait to mouse and keyboard the fuck out of dudes with dualshocks. FUCK CONSOLE SHOOTERS YEAHHH!

#16 Posted by onarum (2089 posts) -

About time someone took advantage of the PS3 effin native keyboard and mouse support, goddamn.

#17 Posted by Jasta (2217 posts) -

I can't believe they are adding a taser into Counter Strike.

#18 Posted by Mu5hy (124 posts) -

Cool article, but launching with only 5 maps? Seems odd.

#19 Posted by Doctorchimp (4076 posts) -
@scarace360 said:
Console people arnt getting on my server.
@WilliamRLBaker said:
So A completely subjagated online environments where pc players will refuse console players access to their servers and public valve servers PC players will be owning ps3 players because move wont be near as accurate and the ps3 uses generic usb drivers so hyper precision mice that pc users will be using wont work the same on the ps3 as they do on the pc? 
It's going to be a glorious slaughter.
#20 Posted by DystopiaX (5310 posts) -

So, I'll be able to play much better because I have a mouse and keyboard and all they have are imprecise controllers? Awesome, until I want to play for reals.

#21 Posted by KillyDarko (1888 posts) -
@100_Hertz said:

Thanks again, Valve, for being the only major publisher without your head up your own ass.

#22 Edited by MattyFTM (14384 posts) -

Cross platform play in a competitive game is dumb. Mouse & Keyboard is so much more precise than a gamepad. Obviously there will be filters that allow you to only play in games without cross platform play, but who is going to select a filter that basically says "Hey, do you want the game to be crazy unbalanced?". It'll be OK if they only allow PS3 users with a keyboard & mouse to play cross platform, but with the gamepad it's just going to unbalance things so much.

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#23 Posted by SomeJerk (3251 posts) -

Flashbacks to newsgroup meltdown when buzz came of Quake 3 on the Dreamcast.

Steam won't happen in any form on the 360 unless MS relax their restrictions, which they have only once, to get FF11 working, sad to say for the hopeful.

#24 Edited by zaglis (910 posts) -
@100_Hertz said:

Thanks again, Valve, for being the only major publisher without your head up your own ass.


For making the PC version exactly the same as the console version and making PC gamers hate console tards EVEN MORE? 
 
(Also, Valve doesn't publish games and are not the main developers of CS:GO)
#25 Posted by Three0neFive (2293 posts) -
@zaglis said:
@100_Hertz said:

Thanks again, Valve, for being the only major publisher without your head up your own ass.

For making the PC version exactly the same as the console version and making PC gamers hate console tards EVEN MORE?   (Also, Valve doesn't publish games and are not the main developers of CS:GO)
You've got it backwards - the console version is the same as (or at least identical to) the PC version, as it is with all Valve games. That this is getting ported to the consoles hurts absolutely nobody, and only serves to let more people experience it (even if in an admittedly flawed capacity).
 
Look, I'm all for standing up for PC-ass PC gaming, but this is, well, a PC-ass PC game through and through.
#26 Posted by Jimbo (9811 posts) -

To make it fair, PC players can use a pair of oven gloves, handcuffs or their feet.

#27 Posted by scarace360 (4828 posts) -
@Doctorchimp said:
@scarace360 said:
Console people arnt getting on my server.
@WilliamRLBaker said:
So A completely subjagated online environments where pc players will refuse console players access to their servers and public valve servers PC players will be owning ps3 players because move wont be near as accurate and the ps3 uses generic usb drivers so hyper precision mice that pc users will be using wont work the same on the ps3 as they do on the pc? 
It's going to be a glorious slaughter.
Yup may i suggest that everyone buys it on pc. 
#28 Posted by ProfessorEss (7376 posts) -
@MattyFTM said:

Cross platform play in a competitive game is dumb. Mouse & Keyboard is so much more precise than a gamepad.

There's been pretty extensive testing done that proves this, that's why many games have toyed with the idea but none (few?) have released with it. 
It will be interesting to see what they do to make it all work out. 
#29 Posted by mosespippy (4183 posts) -
@FluxWaveZ said:
I don't believe the 360 will be invited, though.
I bet they were invited but Microsoft doesn't want to come to come to the party.
#30 Edited by TotalEklypse (1000 posts) -
@zodiac_motherfucker said:

ANYBODY WHO USES A MOUSE AND KEYBOARD IS FULL OF BITCH. YOU WANNA CLICK ON HEADS FOR POINTS THEN PLAY A FUCKING FLASH GAME WITH THE REST OF THE GIRLS IN THE SECRETARIAL POOL OTHERWISE MAN THE FUCK UP AND GRAB A FUCKING CONTROLLER

#31 Posted by jkuc316 (981 posts) -

How the Hell are PS3 Players going to play this with a Mouse and Keyboard? A Mouse and Keyboard Peripheral just like how the PSX had a mouse peripheral?
 
And I hate how you linked me to Kotaku

#32 Posted by TotalEklypse (1000 posts) -

Well this is a nice surprise.  Glad they are giving players the options of how to interface with the game. 
 
Console guys are still dead meat. At least the ones who don't adapt.

#33 Posted by scarace360 (4828 posts) -

So i think there is a bigger question here and it is WHERE IS LAN?

#34 Posted by easthill (351 posts) -

@jkuc316: Maybe by, I don't know, plugging in a mouse and keyboard?

#35 Posted by ajamafalous (11994 posts) -

Man, anyone using a gamepad is going to get rolled. I feel like Valve's just doing this to make a point.

#36 Posted by TotalEklypse (1000 posts) -

This makes me wonder if Sony will finally embrace choice of interface? Maybe make a good keyboard/mouse for the system.  
 
Personally I have been using a keyboard and mouse for a lot of shooters on PS3 already, thanks to a handy device I bought. It would be nice though to have full on support for it more often though, directly in game. Without having to resort to a work around. Unreal on ps3 did a great job of letting us choose our form of killing. Interface wise that is.

#37 Posted by jkuc316 (981 posts) -
@easthill: Will that even work without hacking the PS3? or using another device?
#38 Posted by scarace360 (4828 posts) -
@jkuc316 said:
@easthill: Will that even work without hacking the PS3? or using another device?
No some games support it on the ps3 like UT3
#39 Posted by CylonHunter (17 posts) -

Yeah i'll probably still use a controller i'm too lazy to plug in mouse and keyboard. 

#40 Posted by rmanthorp (3949 posts) -

@MattyFTM said:

Cross platform play in a competitive game is dumb. Mouse & Keyboard is so much more precise than a gamepad. Obviously there will be filters that allow you to only play in games without cross platform play, but who is going to select a filter that basically says "Hey, do you want the game to be crazy unbalanced?". It'll be OK if they only allow PS3 users with a keyboard & mouse to play cross platform, but with the gamepad it's just going to unbalance things so much.

I really bet to differ, I think that console gamers are getting less credit then they deserve when it comes to competitive play sure a console version might support aim assist, but if you plug a controller into some PC online games you get aim assist that just comes with the control set-up. Sure it really is apple and oranges when it comes to PC/Console but I think it's not as bad as people seem to think and if anyone can make it work, it's FASA Studio, I mean Valve.

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#41 Posted by rmanthorp (3949 posts) -

@Jasta said:

I can't believe they are adding a taser into Counter Strike.

O U

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#42 Posted by PillClinton (3291 posts) -

@zaglis said:

@100_Hertz said:

Thanks again, Valve, for being the only major publisher without your head up your own ass.

For making the PC version exactly the same as the console version and making PC gamers hate console tards EVEN MORE? (Also, Valve doesn't publish games and are not the main developers of CS:GO)

Console tards? Ha, you sound like the epitome of an angry, impossible-to-please, console-hating PC snob. Also, Valve is indeed a publisher, and when did I ever say they were the main developers of CSGO? Man, I had only praise for Valve in my original post, yet you still somehow found a way to disagree with it. Nice going!

#43 Posted by Valiom (51 posts) -
@Mu5hy:  I believe they're launching with 7. 5 de_maps and 2 cs_maps. At  least that's how I read the article. 
#44 Posted by zaglis (910 posts) -
@100_Hertz said:

@zaglis said:

@100_Hertz said:

Thanks again, Valve, for being the only major publisher without your head up your own ass.

For making the PC version exactly the same as the console version and making PC gamers hate console tards EVEN MORE? (Also, Valve doesn't publish games and are not the main developers of CS:GO)

Console tards? Ha, you sound like the epitome of an angry, impossible-to-please, console-hating PC snob. Also, Valve is indeed a publisher, and when did I ever say they were the main developers of CSGO? Man, I had only praise for Valve in my original post, yet you still somehow found a way to disagree with it. Nice going!


''impossible to please'' You know, fuck you. Just because I want a game that is not gimped by consoles limitations makes me a snob? Fuck. You.

See what happens when developer is not limited by a console? More than 300 TF2 updates happens. Crysis happens. Shogun 2 happens. BF 1942 and 2 happens, should I go on?
#45 Posted by PillClinton (3291 posts) -

@zaglis said:

@100_Hertz said:

@zaglis said:

@100_Hertz said:

Thanks again, Valve, for being the only major publisher without your head up your own ass.

For making the PC version exactly the same as the console version and making PC gamers hate console tards EVEN MORE? (Also, Valve doesn't publish games and are not the main developers of CS:GO)

Console tards? Ha, you sound like the epitome of an angry, impossible-to-please, console-hating PC snob. Also, Valve is indeed a publisher, and when did I ever say they were the main developers of CSGO? Man, I had only praise for Valve in my original post, yet you still somehow found a way to disagree with it. Nice going!

''impossible to please'' You know, fuck you. Just because I want a game that is not gimped by consoles limitations makes me a snob? Fuck. You.See what happens when developer is not limited by a console? More than 300 TF2 updates happens. Crysis happens. Shogun 2 happens. BF 1942 and 2 happens, should I go on?

Dude, you're straight-up wrong. CSGO is being developed on PC, then ported to consoles. How does that gimp the PC version, or your experience of it? TF2 is a great example. The console port kind of sucks ass, while the PC version is constantly updated and thriving. But does that shitty console port affect the PC version, or you? No.

#46 Edited by MrKlorox (11209 posts) -

They had better lock off mouse players from controller players. Allowing all in the same servers would be worse than bringing a knife to a gunfight. It's already fucked up with those FragFX cheater controllers out there.

#47 Posted by RsistncE (4496 posts) -

As long as I can filter out games to play with only PC players I'm fine with it; I don't want to waste time raping console kiddies.

#48 Posted by delorean99947 (228 posts) -

Why do some people here seem like dicks? Just cause we are console gamer's doesn't mean we suck at games or are inferior to playing games. It just means we don't have a keyboard to have precision. Seriously, you make it sound like 5 year old's play consoles and 20 years old's play pc's.

#49 Posted by Mu5hy (124 posts) -

@Valiom: you're right, 7 maps - I said 5 because I only play de_maps - but Office is always good for messing around, and cs_italy has chickens (confirmed).

I welcome the PS3 players - it will make the first few weeks of playing this game super interesting, and probably hilarious. If anything it'll get more console players interested in playing CS on the PC. Playing 5v5 scrims and matches for the past few years, you rarely see true 'noobs', that'll be different at launch.

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