Poll Do you prefer YOU DEFEATED or VICTORY ACHIEVED? (649 votes)
Forget all those "Character of the Generation" polls...this is serious business.
Game » consists of 14 releases. Released Sep 22, 2011
Forget all those "Character of the Generation" polls...this is serious business.
I'm playing the Prepare to Die Edition on PS3, and what comes up there is Victory Achieved. Even though it has the DLC included on disc, and cost only as much as a third of a full-priced game, I feel like I've been robbed.
Never played Dark Souls, but judging from those two things out of context, Victory Achieved sounds like you accomplished something but You Defeated sounds like you just fucked someone or something up, so that one wins
Nailed it.
I'd prefer if when you died it said "A DEFEATED IS YOU" or something along those lines. "You Defeated" is such sublimely bad English that it kind of adds a special kind of flavor to Dark Souls, just like all the horrifically butchered scriptural English such as "Cometh soon" that makes my skin crawl.
I'm not only replying to you but I don't see why it's considered such horrible English. It's really just an incomplete sentence: You Defeated [the Demon].
I'd prefer if when you died it said "A DEFEATED IS YOU" or something along those lines. "You Defeated" is such sublimely bad English that it kind of adds a special kind of flavor to Dark Souls, just like all the horrifically butchered scriptural English such as "Cometh soon" that makes my skin crawl.
I'm not only replying to you but I don't see why it's considered such horrible English. It's really just an incomplete sentence: You Defeated [the Demon].
Right. "You Defeated" is perfectly valid Japanese, too, since the object of the sentence is easily implied from context. Whoever was translating made the correct translation, they just failed to make the object explicit. Something like "You're Winner" is worse because someone made the translation and then decided to get fancy with the contractions without understanding them.
"You Defeated" is far superior to "Victory Achieved." The latter sounds so lifeless. I also have a hard time imagining anyone in a medieval setting ever using that phrase themselves; it seems more like a phrase you'd hear in some future militaristic setting.
DEFEATED ACHIEVED
I think this should be the next iteration of the victory tagline.
Never played Dark Souls, but judging from those two things out of context, Victory Achieved sounds like you accomplished something but You Defeated sounds like you just fucked someone or something up, so that one wins
I haven't spent much time in the series either. I saw your argument and was instantly won over. You Defeated wins.
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