IGN review is up - it's a little strange

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#1 Posted by Grissefar (2843 posts) -
Here it is - 9.0

I don't know if it's any good because I haven't read it and I intend the last consumption of Dark Souls media before playing the actual game to be the incredible Quick Look. The wierd thing to me is the date at which it is published, when Kevin V O said the embargo lifts on Monday. Now this is hardly the first time this has happened with IGN but I guess I can't fault Namco for giving them a free pass because after all, Dark Souls has been on the front of IGN for many days now including that 24-hour live stream. I guess it's nice to see IGN giving the little guy some air time.
#2 Posted by Milkman (16228 posts) -

Namco probably told publications that if you're going to give the game above a certain score, you can post your review early. Happens all the time.

#3 Posted by jkuc316 (981 posts) -
#4 Posted by Floppypants (798 posts) -

I'm sure IGN just cut a deal with Namco for exclusive early coverage. Having the first review and their 24 live marathon gave IGN a lot of traffic. It's not like anyone is clamoring for Rage coverage; that game seems like it's going to bomb.

#5 Edited by GuyIncognito (438 posts) -

IGN gave Demon's Souls 9.4. What happened to the 0.4? rageface.jpg

#6 Posted by BeachThunder (11265 posts) -

Please can we stop making threads about IGN reviews. They're often poor quality and it would probably just be better to have a general review thread instead.

#7 Posted by coakroach (2478 posts) -

Whats the overlap of people who play Dark Souls and people who take IGN reviews seriously?

#8 Posted by CptBedlam (4439 posts) -

@BeachThunder said:

Please can we stop making threads about IGN reviews. They're often poor quality and it would probably just be better to have a general review thread instead.

Exactly.

Also, there already IS a review thread. Why the fuck are people still opening threads for IGN reviews? Is IGN paying or what? Sigh...

#9 Posted by MildMolasses (3194 posts) -

They do have an exclusive on this. The image for the video review says "Exclusive review" on it. I don't agree with the way sites and publishers do this, but the publishers want coverage on a large site and IGN wants the hits, so what can you do

#10 Posted by imsh_pl (3295 posts) -

I don't come to Giant Bomb to read about shitty IGN articles, please don't post them here (or if you do don't commit an entirely new thread for each one of them).

#11 Posted by pornstorestiffi (4905 posts) -
@coakroach said:

Whats the overlap of people who play Dark Souls and people who take IGN reviews seriously?

A Giantbomb review or a IGN review, it matters little to me who writes them. Its all opinion based and i can form my own.
#12 Posted by project343 (2807 posts) -

@jkuc316 said:

Well, they did do this article after all...

This whole ordeal has a lot of money-grubbing-stank to it. Positive articles / coverage in favour for early review embargo? Ugh.

#13 Posted by kashif1 (1428 posts) -

ign may have some of the worst written articles but their reviews are generally accurate.

#14 Posted by Grissefar (2843 posts) -
@imsh_pl said:
I don't come to Giant Bomb to read about shitty IGN articles, please don't post them here (or if you do don't commit an entirely new thread for each one of them).
Sorry for forcing you to click on it. You'll just have to deal with it, I guess.
@CptBedlam said:

@BeachThunder said:

Please can we stop making threads about IGN reviews. They're often poor quality and it would probably just be better to have a general review thread instead.

Exactly.

Also, there al ready IS a review thread. Why the fuck are people still opening threads for IGN reviews? Is IGN paying or what? Sigh...

Hehe I knew you'd show up like you do whenever there's something IGN related. Last was a Dead Island thread I think.
#15 Posted by JerichoBlyth (1044 posts) -

Comparing Dark Souls to Skyrim is like comparing FIFA to Uncharted.

They're nowhere near alike.

Both will be good in their own right. However, I have to say that Skyrim will always be favoured above it, as most 'gamers' are after entertainment these days rather than opting for thumb blistering difficulty.

#16 Posted by imsh_pl (3295 posts) -
@Grissefar: Clogging up the "site activity" section of the front page is what annoys me.
#17 Posted by Garl_Vinland (2 posts) -

The IGN review appears to be rushed. They just wanted to be the first one set a score.

Both stream and review are ridden with misinformation and general lack of competence.

#18 Posted by tonnous24 (43 posts) -

The review was well written and backed up the score just fine. People need to get over "BIG SITE MEANS BAD! BAAAAAD!"

#19 Posted by RoyCampbell (1095 posts) -
@imsh_pl said:
@Grissefar: Clogging up the "site activity" section of the front page is what annoys me.
I wish life was easy enough for me to bitch about a thread I can simply skip over and forget it existed in the span of two seconds.
 
Thanks for the post, Gris. The thread at least appealed to me; I don't read IGN but am glad Dark Souls seems to be getting positive coverage.
#20 Posted by Animasta (14460 posts) -

@tonnous24 said:

The review was well written and backed up the score just fine. People need to get over "BIG SITE MEANS BAD! BAAAAAD!"

big site doesn't mean bad, but IGN means bad; they really are quite terrible.

#21 Posted by imsh_pl (3295 posts) -
@RoyCampbell: Could you please give me a reason why an IGN review can't be posted right here and requires a completely new thread, because I fail to see one. And "you don't have to read it" is not really a valid argument.
#22 Posted by kingzetta (4307 posts) -
@coakroach said:

Whats the overlap of people who play Dark Souls and people who take IGN reviews seriously?

Well people that play Dark Souls, Don't give a damn what anyone says about dark souls good or bad.
#23 Posted by FourWude (2261 posts) -

I don't know jack about Dark Souls, but how hard are we talking about here? Are we talking Super Meat Boy/Ninja Gaiden hard?

Or are we talking, just don't play stupidly, take your time and you'll be alright?

#24 Posted by kingzetta (4307 posts) -
@FourWude said:

I don't know jack about Dark Souls, but how hard are we talking about here? Are we talking Super Meat Boy/Ninja Gaiden hard?

Or are we talking, just don't play stupidly, take your time and you'll be alright?

the 2nd one
#25 Edited by Superfriend (1458 posts) -

After the stupid headline grab driven article their new "editor in chief" put up, I don´t think an early review comes as a surprise. Dudes are getting paid by the publishers. Otherwise this shit wouldn´t fly.

That does not mean that Dark Souls is a bad game, not at all. Just IGN´s way of doing this whole "professional journalism" thing- they´re doing it wrong.

#26 Posted by jozzy (2041 posts) -

Not necessary that big of a problem, but the stream made it clear the reviewer only got through about 60% of the game (their own words).

#27 Posted by Vashyron (189 posts) -

So, did anyone notice in the video review, toward the end, that there was a sort of skull where the humanity counter is? It is kinda brief and only comes up a couple of times. What's up with that?

#28 Posted by benjaebe (2783 posts) -

Did people actually read the review? I thought it was pretty good and fairly informative, since I learned about some mechanics I didn't know about, etc. Though it's IGN so everyone immediately disregards them.

#29 Posted by Bulby33 (521 posts) -
@tonnous24 said:

The review was well written and backed up the score just fine. People need to get over "BIG SITE MEANS BAD! BAAAAAD!"

In my opinion, IGN isn't terrible because it happens to be one of the biggest video game websites on the internet, but it's terrible because half of their editorial can't write a decent article to save their lives. 
 
As for this particular review I find it to be well written and fair. I don't have a problem with Keza MacDonald.
#30 Posted by bybeach (4605 posts) -

I read the review. I laughed. If it's anything like they said and the review accuratly reflects the game, there is going to be a tsunami of epic NERD proportions engulf this site. NOTHING else will be worthy. I've already seen the tide creep up, it's going to over shadow everything. (not to memtion I might try it also at some point)...BTW, a giant site might have it's reputation, but these days with the attitudes displayed I feel I have to ask if it's not half hipster angst. (hate that term)

#31 Edited by Mr402 (128 posts) -

I don't care what site it is..... A obviously great game got a great score, so I'm hoping sales will reflect that. I want From Software to be successful and keep these types of games in my hands.

#32 Posted by FancySoapsMan (5750 posts) -

Seems fine to me.

#33 Posted by Mrsignerman44 (1100 posts) -

Some people need to get over themselves and read the review, it's actually well written and informative. Not everything that IGN does is inherently bad.

#34 Posted by huntad (1930 posts) -

@jkuc316 said:

Well, they did do this article after all...

Tha fuck? I haven't seen this till now. This is kinda gross.

#35 Posted by TheInsider (50 posts) -

IGN is owned by News Corp(Rupert Murdock, Fox News), which likely reflects the websites appearance and MO.

I wonder if people ever realized that

With that said, I like the Beyond team...

#36 Posted by Hzaife (160 posts) -

The review seemed fine, go outside and kick a fucking ball around or something..

jesus..

#37 Posted by TheInsider (50 posts) -

@Anwar said:

@TheInsider: I don't think Rupert Murdoch gives a rat's ass about IGN and what they do as long as they make money.

Yea, that's my point

#38 Posted by Jimbo (9710 posts) -

Exclusive reviews aren't worth the bandwidth they're printed on.

#39 Posted by FreakAche (2938 posts) -

@Floppypants said:

I'm sure IGN just cut a deal with Namco for exclusive early coverage. Having the first review and their 24 live marathon gave IGN a lot of traffic. It's not like anyone is clamoring for Rage coverage; that game seems like it's going to bomb.

What makes you think that? I was dismissive of RAGE at first, but after seeing/reading coverage of it's e3 demo, it's hard for me to imagine it not being good.

#40 Posted by vancealmighty (26 posts) -

I watched a good chunk of the live stream, and the main people who played it, including Keza MacDonald who wrote the review, knew what they were doing. The review is fine. If they got an early review, who cares? It was a great score.

#41 Posted by Belmont_Shadow (174 posts) -

There is no Embargo. There are 3 reviews out already.

IGN - 9

, GamesTM - 9

Xbox 360 magazine.- 5/5

#42 Posted by Grissefar (2843 posts) -
@Belmont_Shadow said:

There is no Embargo. There are 3 reviews out already.

IGN - 9

, GamesTM - 9

Xbox 360 magazine.- 5/5

but there is
#43 Edited by TheInsider (50 posts) -

@Anwar said:

@TheInsider:

So it would be better if he would tell them what to do? Every company tries to make money, which is nothing special. I'm a lil bit confused and don't get what you are trying to say.

I'm the one who doesn't get what you're trying to say. >.>

When News Corp bought IGN a few years back, they started letting go of the long time popular editors and turned it into the Babeology/Askmen/Pornstars in Podcasts/Fox News style attention grabbing Headlines you see today. "Why Dark Souls will Devour Skyrim's Face"?

That's all I'm tryin to say. I still enjoy Podcast Beyond with all it's sillyness.

#44 Posted by mordukai (7092 posts) -

@JerichoBlyth said:

Comparing Dark Souls to Skyrim is like comparing FIFA to Uncharted.

They're nowhere near alike.

Both will be good in their own right. However, I have to say that Skyrim will always be favoured above it, as most 'gamers' are after entertainment these days rather than opting for thumb blistering difficulty.

I said it a 1000 times before and it seems I have to say it again. Demon's Souls is NOT blistering difficult. It's just has very strict rules. Most gamers think it's very difficult because the media made it seem that way. I will admit that it has a very steep learning curve but one you know what you are doing, which doesn't take that long to learn, you realize just how wrong that whole "unbelievably difficult" reputation this game got. The only reason it got it is because developers today keep making games easier because this ADHD generation of gamers can't play anything that challenges them.

I love the rpg's Bethesda make, save for Fallout 3, but I'll take Demon's Souls/Dark Souls any time of the day.

#45 Edited by Anwar (765 posts) -

@IGN Reviewer said:

There's no way to repair weapons and armor once they've been completely destroyed, so it's possible to lose all your best gear in this battle.

Good job IGN.

#46 Posted by phantomzxro (1532 posts) -

i dont know what the hate is about if you dont like ign then fine but there are far worst sites you can go. i did not see anything weird about the review and in fact its a well written one at that. 9 seems to be a respectable rating and i dont even know if giantbomb will even review it unless matt rorie steps up and does a review

#47 Posted by TripMasterMunky (2403 posts) -

@huntad said:

@jkuc316 said:

Well, they did do this article after all...

Tha fuck? I haven't seen this till now. This is kinda gross.

Right? Are these supposed to be the professional voices to advise consumers? If I was on the Elder Scrolls team I'd be like fuck. that.

#48 Posted by OllyOxenFree (4969 posts) -

SHUT UP AND TAKE ALL OF MY SOULS!!!

#49 Posted by bybeach (4605 posts) -

I think the weird thing about the review at IGN was that it for practical purpose, described an exercise in sadomasochism. Mostly the self infliction of pain and frustration by playing this game, and the whipping tranny part being fullfilled by the game itself. Interestingly, only very occasionally by another player as a black phantom. It sounded a little past the pale, like if you considered the obstacle course for becoming a navy seal 'fun'. You would most certainly achieve something life important, but fun has nothing to do with it. In other words, Dark souls comes off as a sophisticated and intricate well-conceived and designed video game, but what the fuck were the state of the minds of the devs... Rubber hang suits and ball gags? But that's what the review kind of sounded like, while I rather liked the QL...

#50 Posted by kishinfoulux (2077 posts) -

@CaLe said:

@TheInsider said:

@Anwar said:

@TheInsider:

So it would be better if he would tell them what to do? Every company tries to make money, which is nothing special. I'm a lil bit confused and don't get what you are trying to say.

I'm the one who doesn't get what your trying to say. >.>

When News Corp bought IGN a few years back, they started letting go of the long time popular editors and turned it into the Babeology/Askmen/Pornstars in Podcasts/Fox News style attention grabbing Headlines you see today. "Why Dark Souls will Devour Skyrim's Face"?

That's all I'm tryin to say. I still enjoy Podcast Beyond with all it's sillyness.

Yeah they still have some cool people working for them. Ryan Clements is so nice that it actually annoys me sometimes. It is possible to be too nice, he has proven.

People are dropping like flies from that place though. In just a few short years Goldstein, Bozon, Roeper, Gies, Reilly, Bromley, Scott, etc. have all left. Especially just this year alone. And the ones that leave are the cool dudes. And yet Greg Miller and Damon Hatfield still remain. Now we have Casey Lynch who is a complete tool running the show. They feel like such a frat boy site and you can really hear it on the podcasts.

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