The Men Who Made Dark Souls Whole

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#101 Posted by ValiantGoat (376 posts) -

Great read Scoops.

#102 Posted by adam1808 (1430 posts) -

Scoops strikes again! Interesting read, I'm amazed Digital Foundry hasn't done a similarly in-depth write-up on this happy turn of events.

#103 Posted by EndlessLotus (109 posts) -

Now make another DLC....

#104 Edited by Sooty (8082 posts) -

@PoisonJam7 said:

You failed to mention that the guy who did this rez fix also pirated the game.

That's okay. A game locked at 1280x720 30FPS doesn't deserve money when it's released for PC. That is beyond what is acceptable, take away in-depth graphical settings or fov, but that shit is just insane in 2012. Heck, Quake III was capable of higher FPS and resolution than that, in 1999.

Just like the developers of From Dust deserve nothing for that horrible port, unplayable with a mouse.

#105 Posted by Deusx (1903 posts) -

@JackOhara said:

@Deusx said:

This is incredibly old, but hey, it's about Dark Souls. That said, I do not want more coverage of the game here, GB wouldn't be able to make that game justice because they don't understand it. Vinny was the closest one to actually play it and he didn't even finish the damn game. He wasn't into the lore or why he was doing things in the first place. He was just focused on "waa this game is so haaard" when in reality it isn't. The only one who really understood why the Souls series was so amazing was Rorie.

People exaggerate the difficulty of the Souls games WAY too much. I think it's funny that most of the older vid games journalism crowd seems to be to most vocal regarding its supposed 'difficulty', did they ever play Megaman or Metroid?

Exactly, Megaman didn't even have a tutorial! Most people just get intimidated by Dark Souls and won't give it the chance it deserves.

#106 Posted by sinspaw (1 posts) -

@jackopm said:

I don't get why people are so knee-jerk defensive of From. I think it's perfectly reasonable to say they made a sub-expectations PC port, and just because they're scrappy underdogs that everyone's rooting for doesn't mean you can't give them flack for it. Oh, you say that that we should cut them slack because it's their first PC port? Why? They're still asking for you to pay a significant sum for it.

I played a decent amount of DS on PS3 (>12 hours), and I enjoyed it for what it was; same with Demons' Souls. I think From is doing important work and should be lauded for their achievements. I also think it's pretty wack that they released what looks, from the outside, like a slapdash PC port that was substantially improved immediately after release and claimed they just "weren't experienced enough" for it. Some of the imagery in the article may be a little sensationalist, but I think most of the sentiments seem valid. People immediately crying foul over From Software's feelings should maybe consider being less emotionally invested in a company, especially when they make a misstep.

Ok...so, yeah. Couple of things. FROM aren't the ones who set the price for the game, NAMCO are. Blaming FROM because the game is too expensive for you is stupid, and ignorant. Here you are, bashing a company who all things cosindered TOOK A RISK by porting this game to the PC. Why the risk you foolishly ask? Because porting a game still requires resources, one of them being paid time for the employers of the company. Money is being spent in the name of some 90k signatures, which although it's a pretty impressive number for a petition, we don't know how much profit would be required from selling the game to cover the amount of resources spent, and if only these 90k people would buy it, it would surely amount to a loss of money. Oh, and this is not even counting the costs of promoting of the game and so on. Another thing to consider... these people were HONEST with you. They told you this was a strict port, unlikely to be spectacular. From this you take that they are weak because they are excusing themselves for the poor job as you see it. People like you disgust me. How many times have you seen ports being hyped up by companies, only for the game to be close to unplayable and needing a shitload of fixes, when they are possible that is. GTA4 rings a bell? They told you what to expect from this port, and told you what the price is. If you're unhappy despite being warned... that's your problem. I praise FROM for, one way or another, taking a risk in this port, and being honest about its lack of quality, which by the way DOES NOT GO WELL WITH SELLING THE PRODUCT. There is a MASSIVE difference between bashing a company like EA, whom have shitloads of resources, and FROM, a smaller company making truly amazing games and taking risks whilst doing so. Next time you wanna bash or tell people to not be so respectful of a company like that, just know that guys like me who appreciate innovation and risk taking in nowadays gaming, would like to literally hit you in the face.

Just before I'm done... You played 12 hours of DS? I doubt you are even close to have finished the game. Just a thought.

#107 Posted by Thor_Molecules (732 posts) -

Durante is the hero of NeoGAF. He's the sole saviour of the PC version of this glorious game.

#108 Posted by Turambar (6717 posts) -

I thought this was going to be an interview with Dark Souls' director Miyazaki. Color me disappointed.

Online
#109 Posted by Durante (2 posts) -

Me having pirated Dark Souls is of course a (silly) lie. I pre-ordered the game weeks before it was released. I guess some people misunderstood the idea that I started working on the fix before the game was released. This is true, but at that time I did all my testing on other DirectX 9 games, primarily The Witcher 2.

As far as I know, no pirated version allows you to play online, but I've got multiple screeshots of online play in my album. Just in case that for some reason someone doesn't believe me.

#110 Posted by emem (1965 posts) -
@Durante: There are always some children trolling around, just ignore them. 
 
I feel like I wouldn't have been able to enjoy the game half as much without your fix, by the way. Great job.
#111 Posted by Turhaya (60 posts) -

I'm still confused about the part where an online petition... worked? What kind of sorcery was that? <3 the DSes

#112 Posted by FesteringNeon (2164 posts) -

This is a fine example of users and makers doing good things for gaming! I love From Software, and developers who care enough to support these great franchises.

#113 Posted by Draxyle (1822 posts) -

Hopefully (like from Borderlands 1 to Borderlands 2) Dark Souls 2 will be the PC "apology" with all the bells and whistles it needed to make for a competent PC port.

I don't blame the developers too much. The only PC game from Japan I own is Recettear; they don't exactly program with the PC in mind (though Sega and Capcom are coming on board with it lately). With this port they delivered parity with the console versions, which isn't the worst thing in the world. I'm glad they got it out at all so that the PC community could tinker with it.

Still though, they'll need to be on their game next time around or we'll be much less forgiving.

#114 Posted by Dan_CiTi (3238 posts) -

Unless they are an indie/doujin developer, or Capcom, you really don't see Japanese PC games often. Now if only From Software became weary of these fan fixes and just integrated them into the game so we could all play it in a nicer fashion without the fear of getting banned from online. 

#115 Posted by SpartanHoplite (384 posts) -

I hope more Souls comes out next year, need moar!

PC gamers ou so often need to fix new releases themself :/

Shame on u devs..

#116 Posted by ChrisTaran (1581 posts) -

@PoisonJam7 said:

You failed to mention that the guy who did this rez fix also pirated the game.

How would that be pertinent to the story?

#117 Posted by PoisonJam7 (335 posts) -
@ChrisTaran The story paints this guy to be some sort of heroic savoir, but I'm just saying that there is more then what meets the eye. And the laughable excuse that he got the game early just because he preordered it is ridiculous. I preorder every game I know that I'll be buying, but in all my years of doing so I've never gotten a copy before release day; save for midnight launches and a few MMO headstarts. So yeah, I'm not buying it.

I don't care that he pirated it, it just bothers me that everyone is eager to heap praise on this guy and cast him as some great supporter of the game when he couldn't even be bothered to legitimately purchase it.
#118 Posted by MormonWarrior (2561 posts) -

@PoisonJam7 said:

@ChrisTaran The story paints this guy to be some sort of heroic savoir, but I'm just saying that there is more then what meets the eye. And the laughable excuse that he got the game early just because he preordered it is ridiculous. I preorder every game I know that I'll be buying, but in all my years of doing so I've never gotten a copy before release day; save for midnight launches and a few MMO headstarts. So yeah, I'm not buying it. I don't care that he pirated it, it just bothers me that everyone is eager to heap praise on this guy and cast him as some great supporter of the game when he couldn't even be bothered to legitimately purchase it.

Except he never said he had it early...in fact, he specifically stated that it was a general program that worked with lots of things that would force the resolution but was buggy until it was messed with, and since release he's been able to more specifically tweak it to work with the game. Get your facts straight. He bought the freaking game.

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