White Sign Soapstone: Specifics

#1 Posted by Kuraform (52 posts) -

I was hoping someone could explain some things about how the White Sign Soapstones work. I placed one before the butterfly boss (in the forest) and then promptly died to the butterfly boss. Does this mean that the sign will still stay on the ground, if i keep playing will I be invited to a boss fight?

I tried looking it up on wiki but I couldn't find any more details besides it's basic use.

If someone could explain the specifics, how long the signs stay, if friends can see them etc that'd be great, I'll then update the wiki with the details :)

Thanks!

#2 Posted by fearandwhiskey (4 posts) -

You have to stay in the general area where you put your summon sign down. If you stray too far away, you'll get a message that your summon sign disappeared. It will also disappear if you die, so yours is not there anymore, but there's no reason you can't put it down again any time you want to be summoned. Also, you can be summoned for any boss. It doesn't matter if the boss is still alive in your game or not.

#3 Posted by Kuraform (52 posts) -

How would I go about coordinating summoning into a friends game to help them with a boss?

#4 Posted by fearandwhiskey (4 posts) -

It's tricky because you're not necessarily going to be on the same server, so be patient, but just keep putting down your summon sign until they can see it. The person summoning has to be human, the person being summoned can be human or hollow. You also have to be close to the same soul level--most information says within 10%, but I've also seen within 10 levels cited.

#5 Posted by The_Laughing_Man (13629 posts) -
@Kuraform said:

How would I go about coordinating summoning into a friends game to help them with a boss?

I suggest dropping a sign and waiting 30 seconds for it to appear in their game. Then  you log out of the game and then sign back in 
 
The game dumps people into "Lobbies" You can be in a filled one. Or a empty one.  
 
@fearandwhiskey said:
It's tricky because you're not necessarily going to be on the same server, so be patient, but just keep putting down your summon sign until they can see it. The person summoning has to be human, the person being summoned can be human or hollow. You also have to be close to the same soul level--most information says within 10%, but I've also seen within 10 levels cited.
Its hard to say  but Ive heard within 2 soul levels. But who knows.  
 
@Kuraform said:

I was hoping someone could explain some things about how the White Sign Soapstones work. I placed one before the butterfly boss (in the forest) and then promptly died to the butterfly boss. Does this mean that the sign will still stay on the ground, if i keep playing will I be invited to a boss fight?

I tried looking it up on wiki but I couldn't find any more details besides it's basic use.

If someone could explain the specifics, how long the signs stay, if friends can see them etc that'd be great, I'll then update the wiki with the details :)

Thanks!

Do you need help with the butterfly? Check the bush under the steps RIGHT behind that one stone dude. You can summon a mage women who will beat the living shit out of the butterfly. 
#6 Posted by Kuraform (52 posts) -

I died despite having her help :<

...with 18,000 souls

#7 Posted by fearandwhiskey (4 posts) -

You can avoid almost all the damage by the butterfly just by rolling to one side or the other. When it rests on the wall, hit it a bunch then dodge once the head starts to glow. The mage NPC really does do good ranged damage in that fight. Just wait it out and collect the soul to make a pretty cool shield. : )

#8 Posted by The_Laughing_Man (13629 posts) -
@Kuraform said:

I died despite having her help :<

...with 18,000 souls

On Summon her. And run to the far gate. Roll to avoid the ranged attacks. She should be able to spam her magic attacks. When the Butterfly lands run over and beat it shitless 
#9 Posted by psylah (2185 posts) -

Did they change the white soapstone? I remember it requiring you to be human to use it before the patch. Now you can use it while hollowed.

#10 Posted by jakob187 (21757 posts) -

@The_Laughing_Man said:

@fearandwhiskey said:
It's tricky because you're not necessarily going to be on the same server, so be patient, but just keep putting down your summon sign until they can see it. The person summoning has to be human, the person being summoned can be human or hollow. You also have to be close to the same soul level--most information says within 10%, but I've also seen within 10 levels cited.
Its hard to say but Ive heard within 2 soul levels. But who knows.

A friend and I typically sit right next to each other and play, and we've been within 10 soul levels and were able to summon into each other's worlds.

The summoning itself is very wonky, though. Invading can be the same way.

#11 Posted by Bass (692 posts) -

As far as summoning friends, there is a fairly simply and non-complicated way to attempt to connect to a friend posted on reddit

#12 Posted by Kuraform (52 posts) -

Thanks guys, this is all really helpful. Hopefully I'll be able to get my friends help with some areas.

I was finally able to kill the butterfly and on my way back to the blacksmith I realized there was a bonfire outside the sealed door... I had been running from the blacksmith each time.

>w< I'm going to be the worst invader.

#13 Posted by golguin (4042 posts) -

@psylah said:

Did they change the white soapstone? I remember it requiring you to be human to use it before the patch. Now you can use it while hollowed.

It's always been usable while hollow. It's the reason people leave the message "Need humanity" at a boss gate. I remember waiting up to an hour at a boss gate hoping for some humanity so I could turn human and summon some help on the boss.

#14 Posted by Theiaa (1 posts) -

I'm having a problem with my Stone. I've been trying to put down my sign to be summoned but every time I try and use the item it wont let me. If i equip it and press 'x' my character just shrugs and if I try and use it from the menu there is a line through the options 'use item' and 'drop' :( any ideas?

#15 Posted by Gringus (67 posts) -

@Theiaa said:

I'm having a problem with my Stone. I've been trying to put down my sign to be summoned but every time I try and use the item it wont let me. If i equip it and press 'x' my character just shrugs and if I try and use it from the menu there is a line through the options 'use item' and 'drop' :( any ideas?

There are some areas where you can't put down your sign.

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