First Review Is In! (IGN)

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#1 Posted by Redbullet685 (6054 posts) -
#2 Posted by Rhaknar (5939 posts) -

hopefully the PC version doesnt have the pop-in that the PS3 version aparently has. Guess its my Borderlands for this year, a game i just do a ton of quests while lvling and not caring for the story :P

#3 Posted by Heltom92 (714 posts) -

Damn you just beat me to it! I was just about to post a thread about this :D

Personally I am quite looking foward to this game. As soon as I saw Fallout with zombies I was very interested.

#4 Posted by Cincaid (2958 posts) -

Preordered already, can't wait!

#5 Posted by BeachThunder (12086 posts) -

Yeah, but it's an IGN review - from what the reviewer says it seems like he hasn't even finished the game yet... =/

#6 Posted by Mr_Skeleton (5146 posts) -

I don't trust IGN, I will wait for more reviews.

#7 Posted by GS_Dan (1405 posts) -

I like Greg Miller but I've disagreed with his reviews sometimes. Also, he really likes zombies.

#8 Posted by Subjugation (4725 posts) -

@Mr_Skeleton said:

I don't trust IGN, I will wait for more reviews.

#9 Posted by Spoonman671 (4694 posts) -

I wouldn't go by a Greg Miller review.  Gameplay is pretty much irrelevant to him.

#10 Posted by CL60 (16906 posts) -
@BeachThunder said:
Yeah, but it's an IGN review - from what the reviewer says it seems like he hasn't even finished the game yet... =/
How so? All he said is that he wants to keep playing. It's an RPG. It probably lets you keep playing after the game, or he still wants to explore everywhere and do side quests he missed.
#11 Edited by Heltom92 (714 posts) -

@BeachThunder said:

Yeah, but it's an IGN review - from what the reviewer says it seems like he hasn't even finished the game yet... =/

He says at the end that he finished it but didn't do all the side quests.

@Mr_Skeleton said:

I don't trust IGN, I will wait for more reviews.

I really wish people would stop hating on IGN for stupid reasons.

#12 Posted by Rhaknar (5939 posts) -

I predict 3 stars here. And 3 stars for Space Marine also

#13 Posted by Heltom92 (714 posts) -

@Rhaknar said:

I predict 3 stars here. And 3 stars for Space Marine also

Yea that sounds about right, do we know whos reviewing it for GB?

#14 Posted by Rhaknar (5939 posts) -
@Heltom92 said:

@Rhaknar said:

I predict 3 stars here. And 3 stars for Space Marine also

Yea that sounds about right, do we know whos reviewing it for GB?

Brad for Dead Island, no idea for SM, i wish Vinny (since he's the only one actually into the universe) but its probably Jeff, since it's a "shooter"
#15 Edited by iAmJohn (6127 posts) -

@weeman105 said:

@Mr_Skeleton said:

I don't trust IGN, I will wait for more reviews.

It certainly doesn't help that having read the first paragraph, it sounds like Greg Miller has regressed to eight-year-old mode as he did with that Dead Space 2 review.

#16 Posted by Vexxan (4623 posts) -

@Mr_Skeleton said:

I don't trust IGN, I will wait for more reviews.

#17 Posted by benjaebe (2783 posts) -
@iAmJohn said:

@weeman105 said:

@Mr_Skeleton said:

I don't trust IGN, I will wait for more reviews.

It certainly doesn't help that having read the first paragraph, it sounds like Greg Miller has regressed to eight-year-old mode as he did with that Dead Space 2 review.

It's not so much that he's regressed, it's just the direction that IGN has taken to "appeal to a wider audience." If you listen to Greg Miller on podcasts and stuff he's actually a pretty cool guy. I see no reason not to trust his opinion.
 
Game looks great, hopefully the tech issues seen on the PS3 version won't show up on PC. They shouldn't, since they already said that it's not a PC port and looks/plays even better on PC.
#18 Posted by RE_Player1 (7563 posts) -

That review was painful to get through at the beginning. Sounded like it was written by an 8 year old. Anyway I don't really trust the guys at IGN as they gave War for Cybertron a high review and about every other day they have a top 10 or 100 list just to get more page views.

#19 Posted by FancySoapsMan (5840 posts) -

It actually looks decent.

#20 Posted by big_jon (5743 posts) -

watched this game at PAX for about ten minutes with my friend, it looked interesting.

#21 Posted by iAmJohn (6127 posts) -

@benjaebe said:

@iAmJohn said:

@weeman105 said:

@Mr_Skeleton said:

I don't trust IGN, I will wait for more reviews.

It certainly doesn't help that having read the first paragraph, it sounds like Greg Miller has regressed to eight-year-old mode as he did with that Dead Space 2 review.

It's not so much that he's regressed, it's just the direction that IGN has taken to "appeal to a wider audience."

Appealing to a wider audience means writing shittily because you have such a low opinion of your audience that you think they won't care at best or it's easier for them to understand at worst? You're really not giving me any reason to ever take anything this site says seriously ever again, you know.

#22 Edited by RecSpec (3851 posts) -

I expected more of a review than that (depth-wise), didn't really learn as much about the game as I wanted to

#23 Posted by left4doof (286 posts) -
@BeachThunder: They're not that bad
#24 Posted by vidiots (85 posts) -

Getting it for pc. Which means i hope there wont be the pop in and tech issues.

#25 Posted by iAmJohn (6127 posts) -

@left4doof: They really are.

#26 Posted by Rhaknar (5939 posts) -
@vidiots said:
Getting it for pc. Which means i hope there wont be the pop in and tech issues.
at least as many... its so much like fallout that it borrows the issues too! :P
#27 Posted by benjaebe (2783 posts) -
@iAmJohn said:

@benjaebe said:

@iAmJohn said:

@weeman105 said:

@Mr_Skeleton said:

I don't trust IGN, I will wait for more reviews.

It certainly doesn't help that having read the first paragraph, it sounds like Greg Miller has regressed to eight-year-old mode as he did with that Dead Space 2 review.

It's not so much that he's regressed, it's just the direction that IGN has taken to "appeal to a wider audience."

Appealing to a wider audience means writing shittily because you have such a low opinion of your audience that you think they won't care at best or it's easier for them to understand at worst? You're really not giving me any reason to ever take anything this site says seriously ever again, you know.

It just means that they tone they're taking with their writing is more casual and less professional. I don't think it makes their writing "shitty," but I'm not saying I enjoy it personally - give me a review written by Brad or Alex any day since they're both great. Having listened to Greg Miller and much of the IGN staff outside of their reviews though, it's not like they don't know their stuff and they haven't given me a reason not to listen to their opinions.
#28 Posted by left4doof (286 posts) -
@iAmJohn: I met up with some of the IGN editors at gamescom and they were actually pretty cool duders .
#29 Posted by AhmadMetallic (18954 posts) -
@Vegsen said:

@Mr_Skeleton said:

I don't trust IGN, I will wait for more reviews.

#30 Posted by Heltom92 (714 posts) -

@benjaebe said:

@iAmJohn said:

@benjaebe said:

@iAmJohn said:

@weeman105 said:

@Mr_Skeleton said:

I don't trust IGN, I will wait for more reviews.

It certainly doesn't help that having read the first paragraph, it sounds like Greg Miller has regressed to eight-year-old mode as he did with that Dead Space 2 review.

It's not so much that he's regressed, it's just the direction that IGN has taken to "appeal to a wider audience."

Appealing to a wider audience means writing shittily because you have such a low opinion of your audience that you think they won't care at best or it's easier for them to understand at worst? You're really not giving me any reason to ever take anything this site says seriously ever again, you know.

It just means that they tone they're taking with their writing is more casual and less professional. I don't think it makes their writing "shitty," but I'm not saying I enjoy it personally - give me a review written by Brad or Alex any day since they're both great. Having listened to Greg Miller and much of the IGN staff outside of their reviews though, it's not like they don't know their stuff and they haven't given me a reason not to listen to their opinions.

This. Anyone who listens to the IGN podcasts will know that the IGN editors are all really cool guys and they know what they are talking about. I personally like Greg's style of writing but I understand why some people don't like it.

#31 Posted by CptBedlam (4453 posts) -

Never trust IGN reviews ... especially not if it's an early exclusive. Also, Greg Miller is a joke.

#32 Posted by Spoonman671 (4694 posts) -

There's really nothing wrong with the way that review was written.  You're just being dicks because it's IGN related, and therefore must be evil.

#33 Posted by Heltom92 (714 posts) -

@CptBedlam said:

Never trust IGN reviews ... especially not if it's an early exclusive. Also, Greg Miller is a joke.

@AhmadMetallic said:

@Vegsen said:

@Mr_Skeleton said:

I don't trust IGN, I will wait for more reviews.

Can you guys please give me your reasons why we shouldn't trust IGN? Do you have some secret knowledge about them or something?

#34 Posted by CptBedlam (4453 posts) -

@benjaebe said:

@iAmJohn said:

@benjaebe said:

@iAmJohn said:

@weeman105 said:

@Mr_Skeleton said:

I don't trust IGN, I will wait for more reviews.

It certainly doesn't help that having read the first paragraph, it sounds like Greg Miller has regressed to eight-year-old mode as he did with that Dead Space 2 review.

It's not so much that he's regressed, it's just the direction that IGN has taken to "appeal to a wider audience."

Appealing to a wider audience means writing shittily because you have such a low opinion of your audience that you think they won't care at best or it's easier for them to understand at worst? You're really not giving me any reason to ever take anything this site says seriously ever again, you know.

It just means that they tone they're taking with their writing is more casual and less professional. I don't think it makes their writing "shitty," but I'm not saying I enjoy it personally - give me a review written by Brad or Alex any day since they're both great. Having listened to Greg Miller and much of the IGN staff outside of their reviews though, it's not like they don't know their stuff and they haven't given me a reason not to listen to their opinions.

Does "appeal to a wider audience" mean raping the English language? His DS2 review was an utter joke ("But I have lots of favorite parts to Dead Space 2"); this one isn't much better.

http://m.ign.com/articles/1145332

#35 Posted by CptBedlam (4453 posts) -

@Spoonman671 said:

There's really nothing wrong with the way that review was written. You're just being dicks because it's IGN related, and therefore must be evil.

Read this review by Greg Miller: http://m.ign.com/articles/1145332

There's nothing good about it. Also IGN sucks and sells good scores for early exclusive reviews (no I can't prove it, just my impression after many years of reading reviews).

#36 Posted by emergency (1193 posts) -

People hating on a games reviewer because they don't like that he doesn't use a thesaurus to get the longest possible adjective? I understand he's probably not got a university degree in the use of the english language but using that as some sort of leverage in an argument as to why you can't trust his review is dogshit.

#37 Posted by Red (5995 posts) -

That looks pretty good. I love me some Co-op RPGs, and Zombies. I'll wait for Brad's review, though.

#38 Posted by Heltom92 (714 posts) -

@CptBedlam said:

@Spoonman671 said:

There's really nothing wrong with the way that review was written. You're just being dicks because it's IGN related, and therefore must be evil.

Read this review by Greg Miller: http://m.ign.com/articles/1145332

There's nothing good about it. Also IGN sucks and sells good scores for early exclusive reviews (no I can't prove it, just my impression after many years of reading reviews).

Again that is just your opinion, just because he doesn't write reviews in a conventional style doesn't mean it's bad. It just comes down to personal preference. And you're right, you can't prove that they sell good scores because they don't, do you think any of the big sites could get away with doing this? They get exclusives because they are one of the biggest gaming sites around so more people will see it.

#39 Posted by AhmadMetallic (18954 posts) -
 @Heltom92 said:

@CptBedlam said:

Never trust IGN reviews ... especially not if it's an early exclusive. Also, Greg Miller is a joke.

@AhmadMetallic said:

@Vegsen said:

@Mr_Skeleton said:

I don't trust IGN, I will wait for more reviews.

Can you guys please give me your reasons why we shouldn't trust IGN? Do you have some secret knowledge about them or something?

They killed my fadar 
  

@emergency said:

People hating on a games reviewer because they don't like that he doesn't use a thesaurus to get the longest possible adjective? I understand he's probably not got a university degree in the use of the english language but using that as some sort of leverage in an argument as to why you can't trust his review is dogshit.

+1
#40 Edited by Mr_Skeleton (5146 posts) -

@Heltom92 said:

@CptBedlam said:

Never trust IGN reviews ... especially not if it's an early exclusive. Also, Greg Miller is a joke.

@AhmadMetallic said:

@Vegsen said:

@Mr_Skeleton said:

I don't trust IGN, I will wait for more reviews.

Can you guys please give me your reasons why we shouldn't trust IGN? Do you have some secret knowledge about them or something?

No secret knowledge or anything and I didn't say everyone shouldn't trust them (although it seems I am not the only one) it's just that I personally don't trust them. Why? I think they have way too many reviews I don't agree with and way too many reviews that feel like they were written by a child. Another reason that any website who gets an exclusive early review can't be completely not biased.

#41 Posted by CptBedlam (4453 posts) -

@emergency said:

People hating on a games reviewer because they don't like that he doesn't use a thesaurus to get the longest possible adjective? I understand he's probably not got a university degree in the use of the english language but using that as some sort of leverage in an argument as to why you can't trust his review is dogshit.

This dude shouldn't get paid for his low quality work. Period.

I don't expect a thesis approach to game reviews but that Greg guy doesn't even fulfil common standards for writing articles - no matter what audience they want to appeal to.

#42 Edited by CptBedlam (4453 posts) -

@Heltom92 said:

@CptBedlam said:

@Spoonman671 said:

There's really nothing wrong with the way that review was written. You're just being dicks because it's IGN related, and therefore must be evil.

Read this review by Greg Miller: http://m.ign.com/articles/1145332

There's nothing good about it. Also IGN sucks and sells good scores for early exclusive reviews (no I can't prove it, just my impression after many years of reading reviews).

Again that is just your opinion, just because he doesn't write reviews in a conventional style doesn't mean it's bad. It just comes down to personal preference. And you're right, you can't prove that they sell good scores because they don't, do you think any of the big sites could get away with doing this? They get exclusives because they are one of the biggest gaming sites around so more people will see it.

If "unconventional" means being able to write correct English, then sorry, we have very different standards.

As for the scores: On more than one occasion IGN had exclusive first reviews with scores way above the average. Of course they get away with it - because of naive people like you who still go and read their shit just because they have the first review. It is a common business practice by publishers to demand certain scores for early reviews and IGN gives in to this regularly to get their exclusives.

Example: Ao2: 40th Day... IGN exclusive review: 8.5 ... review embargo over: 6s and 7s are pouring in. There are many examples like this and I have a feeling it will be the same way with Dead Island.

#43 Posted by Vexxan (4623 posts) -

I've just always felt IGN gives great scores to all big games. It has nothing to do with well-written or not well-written reviews. I'm not saying they're "bribed" or get early access and give high scores because of that, it's just how I've always felt about IGN.

But what do I know, maybe this game really is super awesome and deserve that score, but I'd never decide what games to get based on their reviews.

#44 Posted by kishinfoulux (2394 posts) -

A Greg Miller review. Bad enough it's IGN but now I know I definitely have to disregard it.

#45 Posted by neozeke (378 posts) -
@CptBedlam: It is completely possible they felt that it was an 8.5 game. Just saying. 
#46 Posted by Grissefar (2842 posts) -

I think the reason why most people don't "trust" IGN is because they are a big site, appeal to a wide audience, have clicktraps and the fact that it's cool to hate the big corporation, bro. They are the opposite Giant Bomb in many ways, which is no reason to distrust the whole site and their reviewers. It would make sense to disagree with one particular reviewer because his opinion differs from your own and not because of his writing, but that's rarely the case with these Giant Bomb IGN haters. My point is, those people suck some huge, nasty dicks.

#47 Edited by CptBedlam (4453 posts) -

@CaLe: I couldn't care less about convincing you of anything.

The business practice is real, like it or not, and IGN is one of the places where it blossoms.

@neozeke said:

@CptBedlam: It is completely possible they felt that it was an 8.5 game. Just saying.

I'm not ruling out the possibility but after seeing numerous examples of this on IGN, I prefer to believe otherwise.

In my opinion IGN is too much in bed with publishers.

#48 Posted by CrazyBagMan (846 posts) -

I'm curious about knowing what about his reviews exactly makes them bad. The statement or implication at least that he writes "bad english" doesn't give me much of an idea, and I'm too lazy now to read through his reviews. I'd welcome any examples as someone who is working on improving my own writing.

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#49 Edited by ValiantGrizzly (498 posts) -

Ha.
 
IGN.
 
Ha.
 
Edit: hahahahaha. Ha.

#50 Posted by gike987 (1758 posts) -
@CptBedlam said:

@emergency said:

People hating on a games reviewer because they don't like that he doesn't use a thesaurus to get the longest possible adjective? I understand he's probably not got a university degree in the use of the english language but using that as some sort of leverage in an argument as to why you can't trust his review is dogshit.

This dude shouldn't get paid for his low quality work. Period.

I don't expect a thesis approach to game reviews but that Greg guy doesn't even fulfil common standards for writing articles - no matter what audience they want to appeal to.

There is a difference between between not being a great writer and being a native English speaker that writes worse English than most 16-year-olds here in Sweden. This guy should not write reviews.

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