I'm pretty impressed with character model improvements.

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#1 Edited by Demoskinos (14562 posts) -

So, one of the biggest things I've been excited about is how much better all the character models look for this DOA 5. They have more of a realistic bent to them rather than all looking like anime real dolls which is great. Each character especially the girls have distinctive faces and jawlines now. Just look at this comparison of Helena...

DOA 4:

Helena

DOA 5:

I mean... she actually has facial structure now and her hair looks like.... hair. Really hoping this game does well as its up against Tekken Tag Tourney 2 in September. It seems that even though Ninja Gaiden 3 was a bit of a blunder that they have put some real work into this. Even the alpha demo I played was extremely polished looking for was was supposedly an alpha build of the game.

#2 Posted by Phatmac (5721 posts) -

I LIKE THEIR HUGE TITS

#3 Posted by adam1808 (1372 posts) -

Cool I guess. Wait, why do they still make these games again?

#4 Posted by Demoskinos (14562 posts) -

@adam1808: Because they are fun and thats kind of the point of videogames?

#5 Posted by McGhee (6094 posts) -

Looks great. I'm really looking forward to this. Loved DOA4.

#6 Posted by Zippedbinders (983 posts) -

DOA4 was really fun, and I'm really digging the new style for them, I actually didn't even realize anything was different until this comparison.

#7 Posted by adam1808 (1372 posts) -

@Demoskinos said:

@adam1808: Because they are fun and thats kind of the point of videogames?

Can they be fun in a way that won't make me hide the box when real people are visiting?

#8 Posted by Demoskinos (14562 posts) -

@McGhee: They've added some fun stuff in this one. Including a online training mode where you can just dick around with someone which unless another game that i don't know about did it might be the first game to do that. It also has training options to simulate lag in the offline training room so you can learn to compensate and adjust when playing online. I'm really excited for the changes they've made they actually took a ton of feedback from the alpha demo players and incorporated it into the game. Looks like its going to be a fun time.

#9 Posted by Hailinel (23901 posts) -

@Zippedbinders said:

DOA4 was really fun, and I'm really digging the new style for them, I actually didn't even realize anything was different until this comparison.

The updated character models are really a case of night and day. After playing a lot of Dead or Alive: Dimensions last year, it's really stunning to see the characters with such improved facial features in DOA5.

#10 Posted by Hunter5024 (5543 posts) -

Wow looking at the difference from the earlier parts of this generation to now really is quite impressive. If only the story in these games were less confusing and stupid I might be a little more interested in them. Still, I may pick up this game anyways.

#11 Posted by ajamafalous (11849 posts) -
@adam1808 said:

@Demoskinos said:

@adam1808: Because they are fun and thats kind of the point of videogames?

Can they be fun in a way that won't make me hide the box when real people are visiting?

I lol'd, because, yeah, that's so true.
#12 Posted by Blackout62 (1329 posts) -

Yes certainly significant efforts seem to have been made toward a more photorealistic style through more detailed textures.

Also boobs and whatnot.

#13 Posted by Lunar_Aura (2779 posts) -

eh I still think Itagaki could have demanded it look better. Then again if it were up to him we probably wouldnt have a ps3 version so screw that asshole.

#14 Posted by Demoskinos (14562 posts) -

@ajamafalous said:

@adam1808 said:

@Demoskinos said:

@adam1808: Because they are fun and thats kind of the point of videogames?

Can they be fun in a way that won't make me hide the box when real people are visiting?

I lol'd, because, yeah, that's so true.

I guess that might be the case if you are really insecure.

#15 Posted by adam1808 (1372 posts) -

@Demoskinos said:

@ajamafalous said:

@adam1808 said:

@Demoskinos said:

@adam1808: Because they are fun and thats kind of the point of videogames?

Can they be fun in a way that won't make me hide the box when real people are visiting?

I lol'd, because, yeah, that's so true.

I guess that might be the case if you are really insecure.

I have boundless admiration for anyone who can explain why they like Dead or Alive to someone who doesn't play games and not be given a strange look.

I've never been ashamed of enjoying videogames, but there's a limit and DOA is it. If it's still a fun game then put those mechanics in a wrapper that isn't so pandering.

#16 Posted by Hailinel (23901 posts) -

@adam1808 said:

@Demoskinos said:

@ajamafalous said:

@adam1808 said:

@Demoskinos said:

@adam1808: Because they are fun and thats kind of the point of videogames?

Can they be fun in a way that won't make me hide the box when real people are visiting?

I lol'd, because, yeah, that's so true.

I guess that might be the case if you are really insecure.

I have boundless admiration for anyone who can explain why they like Dead or Alive to someone who doesn't play games and not be given a strange look.

I've never been ashamed of enjoying videogames, but there's a limit and DOA is it. If it's still a fun game then put those mechanics in a wrapper that isn't so pandering.

Nope, you're just insecure.

#17 Posted by AngelN7 (2970 posts) -

Man really? if DOA is your limit you haven't seen nothing ... you can't even see the bouncing when playing.

#18 Posted by StarvingGamer (8000 posts) -

Is that an in-game model? If so, that's some pretty hot shit.

Still won't pick it up though. After all, I am a fighting game snob.

#19 Posted by zombie2011 (4968 posts) -

DOA 4 came out 7 years ago, so of course there will be major improvements in character models.

#20 Posted by Demoskinos (14562 posts) -

@adam1808 said:

@Demoskinos said:

@ajamafalous said:

@adam1808 said:

@Demoskinos said:

@adam1808: Because they are fun and thats kind of the point of videogames?

Can they be fun in a way that won't make me hide the box when real people are visiting?

I lol'd, because, yeah, that's so true.

I guess that might be the case if you are really insecure.

I have boundless admiration for anyone who can explain why they like Dead or Alive to someone who doesn't play games and not be given a strange look.

I've never been ashamed of enjoying videogames, but there's a limit and DOA is it. If it's still a fun game then put those mechanics in a wrapper that isn't so pandering.

Dude, if you care about what other people think of you then you are insecure.

#21 Posted by adam1808 (1372 posts) -

@Hailinel: Awesome. Excuse me while I be insecure and watch Tecmo slide into irrelevancy like every other Japanese publisher that failed to drag itself out of the PS2 era.

#22 Posted by ShiftyMagician (2129 posts) -

@Demoskinos said:

@ajamafalous said:

@adam1808 said:

@Demoskinos said:

@adam1808: Because they are fun and thats kind of the point of videogames?

Can they be fun in a way that won't make me hide the box when real people are visiting?

I lol'd, because, yeah, that's so true.

I guess that might be the case if you are really insecure.

It might also be the case if you have a social circle of various kinds of people and family and don't want to be 'that guy' that creates an awkward moment when 2 girls in questionable outfits duke it out with boob-physics. Definitely a subjective opinion but a valid one that I'm sure many reasonable people share.

Also I agree with your thoughts that the models are way better now and I might consider giving DOA5 a go. I liked the gameplay of DOA3 and am very interested to see more of this new game.

#23 Posted by Lunar_Aura (2779 posts) -

How would you feel if you walked in some girl you know playing a videogame with two dudes and their oversized dongs prominently flapping about as they fight each other?

#24 Posted by Zippedbinders (983 posts) -

Jesus, some of you guys have never played DOA if you think its all string bikinis and tits. There's an actual fighting game there and all the female characters have a reasonable number of fighting game outfits. Its on you if you play with a skimpy outfit. DOA Volleyball /= DOA proper.

Spoilers, there are DUDES in DOA as well. :O

#25 Posted by Hailinel (23901 posts) -

@Lunar_Aura said:

How would you feel if you walked in some girl you know playing a videogame with two dudes and their oversized dongs prominently flapping about as they fight each other?

I'd probably ask what she's playing, and then not give it too much thought otherwise because it's such an absurd concept.

@adam1808 said:

@Hailinel: Awesome. Excuse me while I be insecure and watch Tecmo slide into irrelevancy like every other Japanese publisher that failed to drag itself out of the PS2 era.

And now your taking off-subject pot shots. How are you not insecure, again?

#26 Posted by Demoskinos (14562 posts) -

@Lunar_Aura said:

How would you feel if you walked in some girl you know playing a videogame with two dudes and their oversized dongs prominently flapping about as they fight each other?

Most likely laugh my ass off and ask If I can play because the concept of that sounds fucking amazing.

#27 Posted by Lunar_Aura (2779 posts) -
@Hailinel@Demoskinos: Hear here Tecmo we want that dong mod DLC!
#28 Posted by NTM (7266 posts) -

@Hailinel said:

@adam1808 said:

@Demoskinos said:

@ajamafalous said:

@adam1808 said:

@Demoskinos said:

@adam1808: Because they are fun and thats kind of the point of videogames?

Can they be fun in a way that won't make me hide the box when real people are visiting?

I lol'd, because, yeah, that's so true.

I guess that might be the case if you are really insecure.

I have boundless admiration for anyone who can explain why they like Dead or Alive to someone who doesn't play games and not be given a strange look.

I've never been ashamed of enjoying videogames, but there's a limit and DOA is it. If it's still a fun game then put those mechanics in a wrapper that isn't so pandering.

Nope, you're just insecure.

It seems so.

#29 Posted by NTM (7266 posts) -

Oh, and when I first played Dead or Alive when I was younger, I didn't think so much about the sexual aspect of it, but now... Tits. I mean, come on. It's crazy. Although I'm not exactly interested in these kinds of game that much anymore, I will say that they were fun for a time, and probably still are.

#30 Posted by Demoskinos (14562 posts) -

Steering this topic back from the detour..... the newest episode of Fighter Chronicles has also dropped where they actually mention the character redesigns. Pretty cool stuff.

#31 Posted by adam1808 (1372 posts) -

@Hailinel said:

@Lunar_Aura said:

How would you feel if you walked in some girl you know playing a videogame with two dudes and their oversized dongs prominently flapping about as they fight each other?

I'd probably ask what she's playing, and then not give it too much thought otherwise because it's such an absurd concept.

@adam1808 said:

@Hailinel: Awesome. Excuse me while I be insecure and watch Tecmo slide into irrelevancy like every other Japanese publisher that failed to drag itself out of the PS2 era.

And now your taking off-subject pot shots. How are you not insecure, again?

Okay you got me there. made the better point.

#32 Posted by AngelN7 (2970 posts) -

Both Tekken Tag Tournament 2 and Dead or Alive 5 look really fun but the insane 50+ character roster in Tag 2 is kinda driving me away from it while the smaller roster of DOA5 gives me the impression that they're making their characters distinctively enough.

#33 Posted by Demoskinos (14562 posts) -

@AngelN7 said:

Both Tekken Tag Tournament 2 and Dead or Alive 5 look really fun but the insane 50+ character roster in Tag 2 is kinda driving me away from it while the smaller roster of DOA5 gives me the impression that they're making their characters distinctively enough.

Indeed. I can't see how they are going to balance everything in that game much less like you said make everyone feel distinct enough. Funny thing about DOA 5 though its almost all but been confirmed that Leon is not making it on the roster this time around. He was of course pretty much a Bayman clone and I think that is why they axed him.

#34 Posted by Sagalla (214 posts) -

@AngelN7 said:

Both Tekken Tag Tournament 2 and Dead or Alive 5 look really fun but the insane 50+ character roster in Tag 2 is kinda driving me away from it while the smaller roster of DOA5 gives me the impression that they're making their characters distinctively enough.

No... Tekken has been iterating over 18 years now, the characters are all more distinct now that ever, that being said there are a few characters with only minor or cosmetic differences included in that count, i.e. Eddy/Christie, Kuma/Panda, Jaycee/Michelle, Roger Jr/ Alex... Tekken is going to come out the more balanced and refined fighter without a doubt, I'll try DOA as well but it's kind of a reboot.

#35 Posted by Hailinel (23901 posts) -

@Demoskinos said:

@AngelN7 said:

Both Tekken Tag Tournament 2 and Dead or Alive 5 look really fun but the insane 50+ character roster in Tag 2 is kinda driving me away from it while the smaller roster of DOA5 gives me the impression that they're making their characters distinctively enough.

Indeed. I can't see how they are going to balance everything in that game much less like you said make everyone feel distinct enough. Funny thing about DOA 5 though its almost all but been confirmed that Leon is not making it on the roster this time around. He was of course pretty much a Bayman clone and I think that is why they axed him.

And given what little story he had to begin with and that it's already run its course, there really wasn't anywhere to go with the character from that angle, either.

#36 Posted by Sagalla (214 posts) -

@Demoskinos: It's already balanced. Tekken Tag 2 has been out in Japanese and Korean arcades for a while now, the arcade machines are all connected to Namco servers, and they have already gone through a major revision. DOA on the other hand has not been playtested by any kind of community so there will likely be a few exploits that may or may not ever be fixed

#37 Posted by Demoskinos (14562 posts) -

@Sagalla said:

@Demoskinos: It's already balanced. Tekken Tag 2 has been out in Japanese and Korean arcades for a while now, the arcade machines are all connected to Namco servers, and they have already gone through a major revision. DOA on the other hand has not been playtested by any kind of community so there will likely be a few exploits that may or may not ever be fixed

Actually you are wrong about DOA. They've been constantly having pro-DOA players play the game and give feedback. They also took a ton of feedback from the player survey for those who played the alpha demo. They have made major revisions to the game since the early stages retooling entire systems and adding other entirely new systems like critical bursts.

#38 Posted by Napalm (9020 posts) -

I've always been a fan of Virtua Fighter 5's character models, personally. They're getting better, but she looks like she still suffers from lack of detail and nuance in the body, going by other screenshots. Everything else looks pretty good, though.

#39 Posted by Redbullet685 (6025 posts) -

Is it just me or did her boobs get smaller? What is going on?

#40 Posted by Dagbiker (6939 posts) -

It looks good. I actualy think she looks sexier now that she looks more realistic. Im not to into fighting games, although I did buy DOA: Dimensions for my 3ds.

#41 Posted by Demoskinos (14562 posts) -

@Redbullet685 said:

Is it just me or did her boobs get smaller? What is going on?

Its a probable notion. If you watched the video I posted the mention how they wanted to take the series in a more mature direction. The fan service is still there but its more down played this time around for a more realistic tone. That in turn means the girls now all have different proportions and fairly more realistic proportions.

#42 Posted by Demoskinos (14562 posts) -

@Hailinel said:

@Demoskinos said:

@AngelN7 said:

Both Tekken Tag Tournament 2 and Dead or Alive 5 look really fun but the insane 50+ character roster in Tag 2 is kinda driving me away from it while the smaller roster of DOA5 gives me the impression that they're making their characters distinctively enough.

Indeed. I can't see how they are going to balance everything in that game much less like you said make everyone feel distinct enough. Funny thing about DOA 5 though its almost all but been confirmed that Leon is not making it on the roster this time around. He was of course pretty much a Bayman clone and I think that is why they axed him.

And given what little story he had to begin with and that it's already run its course, there really wasn't anywhere to go with the character from that angle, either.

True. However Gen-Fu's storyline wrapped up in DOA 3 and he still ended up being playable in 4 and if the latest trailer is to be believed he will be in 5 as well although of course hasn't been confirmed as playable yet.

#43 Posted by AjayRaz (12418 posts) -

@Demoskinos said:

@Redbullet685 said:

Is it just me or did her boobs get smaller? What is going on?

they wanted to take the series in a more mature direction. The fan service is still there but its more down played this time around for a more realistic tone.

#44 Posted by Demoskinos (14562 posts) -

@AjayRaz said:

@Demoskinos said:

@Redbullet685 said:

Is it just me or did her boobs get smaller? What is going on?

they wanted to take the series in a more mature direction. The fan service is still there but its more down played this time around for a more realistic tone.

I didn't say it wasn't there. And from all the costumes I've seen in game most of them are fairly more conservative in nature. The Bikini costumes all require to you to either pre-order or get the collectors edition at that point your basically seeking out the fan service so you can't really complain.

#45 Posted by Hailinel (23901 posts) -

There's always going to be the crowd that's more into DOA for the bikini volleyball absurdity more than the fighting or any attempt that Team Ninja might make to tone things down. That's just the way things are, and it doesn't surprise me that they'd throw that crowd a bone.

#46 Posted by Demoskinos (14562 posts) -

@Hailinel said:

There's always going to be the crowd that's more into DOA for the bikini volleyball absurdity more than the fighting or any attempt that Team Ninja might make to tone things down. That's just the way things are, and it doesn't surprise me that they'd throw that crowd a bone.

Ha. You said bone. *badump tch*

#47 Edited by Dagbiker (6939 posts) -

@Demoskinos said:

@AjayRaz said:

@Demoskinos said:

@Redbullet685 said:

Is it just me or did her boobs get smaller? What is going on?

they wanted to take the series in a more mature direction. The fan service is still there but its more down played this time around for a more realistic tone.

I didn't say it wasn't there. And from all the costumes I've seen in game most of them are fairly more conservative in nature. The Bikini costumes all require to you to either pre-order or get the collectors edition at that point your basically seeking out the fan service so you can't really complain.

Where do I have to preorder from to get the bikini costume for that cute german girl.

EDIT: Found her, Hitomi is the girl im thinking of.

#48 Posted by AjayRaz (12418 posts) -

@Demoskinos: i didn't say there wasn't, either. just pointin' that out there. i think it's weird that they threw that in there after saying that they wanted a more mature tone, but you're right about seeking out those costumes.

#49 Posted by AjayRaz (12418 posts) -

@Dagbiker: gamestop me thinks

#50 Posted by Mr_Skeleton (5137 posts) -

A 7 year difference will do that.

Also

@Phatmac said:

I LIKE THEIR HUGE TITS

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