I'm pretty impressed with character model improvements.

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#51 Edited by Demoskinos (14835 posts) -

@Dagbiker said:

@Demoskinos said:

@AjayRaz said:

@Demoskinos said:

@Redbullet685 said:

Is it just me or did her boobs get smaller? What is going on?

they wanted to take the series in a more mature direction. The fan service is still there but its more down played this time around for a more realistic tone.

I didn't say it wasn't there. And from all the costumes I've seen in game most of them are fairly more conservative in nature. The Bikini costumes all require to you to either pre-order or get the collectors edition at that point your basically seeking out the fan service so you can't really complain.

Where do I have to preorder from to get the bikini costume for that cute german girl.

Do you mean this one:

Or do you mean the bunny costumes? If its this one above you need to pre-order the gamestop collectors edition. If your just after the bunny costume all you need to do is pre-order it from gamestop to get the white bunny for Hitomi, Kasumi and think Li-fang. There are black versions of the bunny costumes for Ayane , Christie and Tina if you preorder from amazon. But only gamestop has the collectors edition.

#52 Posted by Dagbiker (6976 posts) -

I might have to get this game after all.

#53 Posted by ImmortalSaiyan (4678 posts) -

I really like the new models. They look far better.

#54 Posted by Hunter5024 (5686 posts) -

@AjayRaz said:

@Demoskinos said:

@Redbullet685 said:

Is it just me or did her boobs get smaller? What is going on?

they wanted to take the series in a more mature direction. The fan service is still there but its more down played this time around for a more realistic tone.

Man what is the draw with bunny costumes. How do those giant ears add to their sex appeal at all.

#55 Posted by Hailinel (24830 posts) -

@Hunter5024: I don't know man, but I personally find the classic Playboy Bunny costume pretty attractive.

Some kinks just aren't easy to explain.

#56 Posted by PSNgamesun (408 posts) -

yeah it definitely is a step up and i heard a lot of good things from tournament players. Heres hoping that it actually turns out good.

#57 Edited by CaLe (3985 posts) -

@Hunter5024 said:

Man what is the draw with bunny costumes. How do those giant ears add to their sex appeal at all.

Don't tell me you're a cat ear guy..

ウサギ耳最高!

I'm more of a red panda ear guy myself.

#58 Posted by thedj93 (1237 posts) -

i would quite like to play this game

#59 Posted by Demoskinos (14835 posts) -

@Hunter5024 said:

@AjayRaz said:

@Demoskinos said:

@Redbullet685 said:

Is it just me or did her boobs get smaller? What is going on?

they wanted to take the series in a more mature direction. The fan service is still there but its more down played this time around for a more realistic tone.

Man what is the draw with bunny costumes. How do those giant ears add to their sex appeal at all.

Thats how.

#60 Posted by Dixavd (1358 posts) -

I have a theory that every time a company improves their female chracter models (or just aims for a more "realistic" design), all they do is make their previous character look more like Lightning from Final Fantasy XIII (I assume there is a step that they are all aiming for past that, but it seems like right now they just converge at that face shape) - this includes Final Fantasy as well btw (I'm not pointing it out for any reason other than it seems to be an odd coincidence that they look more and more like her).

#61 Posted by Skyfire543 (691 posts) -

@Lunar_Aura said:

How would you feel if you walked in some girl you know playing a videogame with two dudes and their oversized dongs prominently flapping about as they fight each other?

Fine. I played Saints Row: The Third. I'm used to giant dongs flapping around in my games.

#62 Posted by CosmicBatman (317 posts) -

Wow, I didn't realize how much better the characters looked, and I thought DOA4 looked amazing when it came out. I hope the environments take the same jump in detail.

#63 Posted by Demoskinos (14835 posts) -

@CosmicBatman: Some of the environments are looking pretty nice.

#64 Posted by Sagalla (218 posts) -

@Demoskinos: @Demoskinos said:

@Sagalla said:

@Demoskinos: It's already balanced. Tekken Tag 2 has been out in Japanese and Korean arcades for a while now, the arcade machines are all connected to Namco servers, and they have already gone through a major revision. DOA on the other hand has not been playtested by any kind of community so there will likely be a few exploits that may or may not ever be fixed

Actually you are wrong about DOA. They've been constantly having pro-DOA players play the game and give feedback. They also took a ton of feedback from the player survey for those who played the alpha demo. They have made major revisions to the game since the early stages retooling entire systems and adding other entirely new systems like critical bursts.

OK then, but the systems in Tekken are well established and the balance changes I'm talking about very subtle refinements that most players wouldn't notice, whereas for DOA it sounds like they aren't sure what direction to take with the mechanics, it's just as well that they are involving players now Itagaki is gone, just don't expect it to be balanced on release. I'm sure it will be fine as long as is is supported for a while after it comes out - it's never been a hardcore fighting game though and I don't think that is what fans expect :)

#65 Posted by JasonR86 (9710 posts) -

@AjayRaz said:

@Demoskinos said:

@Redbullet685 said:

Is it just me or did her boobs get smaller? What is going on?

they wanted to take the series in a more mature direction. The fan service is still there but its more down played this time around for a more realistic tone.

What a fucking dumbass series Dead or Alive is. Honestly.

#66 Posted by Castiel (2616 posts) -

No they still look like anime love dolls.

#67 Posted by Hailinel (24830 posts) -

@JasonR86 said:

What a fucking dumbass series Dead or Alive is. Honestly.

You can maintain a serious tone while still allowing for goofiness. Just look at the Metal Gear Solid series for that.

That's not to say that DOA5 will succeed in their previously stated goal, but it's not impossible.

#68 Posted by mrpandaman (866 posts) -

@Zippedbinders said:

Jesus, some of you guys have never played DOA if you think its all string bikinis and tits. There's an actual fighting game there and all the female characters have a reasonable number of fighting game outfits. Its on you if you play with a skimpy outfit. DOA Volleyball /= DOA proper.

Spoilers, there are DUDES in DOA as well. :O

WAIT A MINUTE... there are dudes in DOA... this is wrinkling my brain...

#69 Posted by JasonR86 (9710 posts) -

@Hailinel said:

@JasonR86 said:

What a fucking dumbass series Dead or Alive is. Honestly.

You can maintain a serious tone while still allowing for goofiness. Just look at the Metal Gear Solid series for that.

That's not to say that DOA5 will succeed in their previously stated goal, but it's not impossible.

As far as I know DOA has yet to strike that balance and they are on the fifth iteration. My guess is that they won't succeed.

#70 Posted by Hailinel (24830 posts) -

@JasonR86 said:

@Hailinel said:

@JasonR86 said:

What a fucking dumbass series Dead or Alive is. Honestly.

You can maintain a serious tone while still allowing for goofiness. Just look at the Metal Gear Solid series for that.

That's not to say that DOA5 will succeed in their previously stated goal, but it's not impossible.

As far as I know DOA has yet to strike that balance and they are on the fifth iteration. My guess is that they won't succeed.

They already worked on cleaning up the series continuity in Dead or Alive: Dimensions and we only have to go by what they've stated in interviews. This is the first full DOA title with all-new assets since DOA4. It's being made by a different Team Ninja. They might not succeed, but I feel that they should be given the benefit of the doubt for now.

#71 Posted by JasonR86 (9710 posts) -

@Hailinel said:

@JasonR86 said:

@Hailinel said:

@JasonR86 said:

What a fucking dumbass series Dead or Alive is. Honestly.

You can maintain a serious tone while still allowing for goofiness. Just look at the Metal Gear Solid series for that.

That's not to say that DOA5 will succeed in their previously stated goal, but it's not impossible.

As far as I know DOA has yet to strike that balance and they are on the fifth iteration. My guess is that they won't succeed.

They already worked on cleaning up the series continuity in Dead or Alive: Dimensions and we only have to go by what they've stated in interviews. This is the first full DOA title with all-new assets since DOA4. It's being made by a different Team Ninja. They might not succeed, but I feel that they should be given the benefit of the doubt for now.

No, I'm good. Someone else can give them the benefit of the doubt. I won't though. Did I mention the women in bunny suits? How about the fact that these 'sexy' suits are based around pre-orders? Or this...

"Since the departure of Tomonobu Itagaki back in 2008, Team Ninja has attempted to shake its reputation as nothing but a stylish, sex-crazed gore factory. It attempted to give Ninja Gaiden's Ryu Hayabusa a softer side, for one. Only two months ago, Team Ninja head Yosuke Hayashi said Dead or Alive 5 will rise beyond "sex and violence," instead pursing "a direction that contains emotional experiences that can move players."

Now, in an interview with Famitsu, Hayashi has now revealed that Dead or Alive 5's voluptuous vixens will feature costume-specific breast physics. Furthermore, each costume will have varying levels of transparency. It sounds like a contradiction to Hayashi's previous statements ... that is, of course, until you realize that "move" is a very ambiguous term."

-http://www.joystiq.com/2012/05/01/dead-or-alive-5-has-costume-specific-breast-physics/

You know, I'm good.

#72 Posted by Demoskinos (14835 posts) -
@JasonR86 Your point being?
#73 Posted by Hailinel (24830 posts) -

@JasonR86: Look, they can't just turn around and make DOA into something completely different. So...

@Demoskinos said:

@JasonR86 Your point being?
#74 Edited by JasonR86 (9710 posts) -

@Demoskinos said:

@JasonR86 Your point being?

I wasn't really talking to you dude. But, in case you are wondering, DOA 5 looks like the same shit Team Ninja always does. Meaning idiotic sex-based objectification of women including apparent sexy costumes and boob physics that look like gerbils are running around inside of the female characters' chest. Yeah, I'm sure the polygon count is higher. I'm sure the environments are nicely designed. I'm sure that the fighting system is fun. But I'm not at all interested in supporting such juvenile nonsense. Not that I can't support juvenile nonsense. I love Saint's Row 3. But SR3 is self-aware and funny. DOA is simply crude.

So I guess what I'm saying is thanks but no thanks.

@Hailinel said:

@JasonR86: Look, they can't just turn around and make DOA into something completely different. So...

@Demoskinos said:

@JasonR86 Your point being?

I wasn't really talking to you initially either. I just made a statement and then responded to you're questions. But, refer to what I said above. That's my point.

#75 Posted by Hailinel (24830 posts) -

@JasonR86: I responded to you and you chose to engage. And if your problem is that DOA isn't self-aware, I think you underestimate it.

#76 Posted by JasonR86 (9710 posts) -

@Hailinel said:

@JasonR86: I responded to you and you chose to engage. And if your problem is that DOA isn't self-aware, I think you underestimate it.

Eh. Honestly, I never thought I would talk about DOA for this long. It's a series that just isn't for me.

#77 Posted by Demoskinos (14835 posts) -
@Hailinel

@JasonR86: I responded to you and you chose to engage. And if your problem is that DOA isn't self-aware, I think you underestimate it.

Indeed especially EVERYTHING that has to do with Zack.
#78 Posted by TheCowman (60 posts) -

Will brooding, monotone Samus be an unlockable fighter?

Will her crippling daddy issues be a pre-order exclusive?

#79 Posted by Hailinel (24830 posts) -

@TheCowman: Team Ninja didn't write the story for that game.

1/10. Shit trolling. Would not read again.

#80 Posted by TheCowman (60 posts) -

@Hailinel said:

@TheCowman: Team Ninja didn't write the story for that game.

1/10. Shit trolling. Would not read again.

Oh, sorry.

Didn't know this was a humor-free zone.

#81 Posted by Gargantuan (1882 posts) -

Bayman is my favourite character and I really like his new look.

#82 Posted by Hailinel (24830 posts) -
@TheCowman That's assuming what you wrote could be considered humor.
#83 Posted by TheCowman (60 posts) -

@Hailinel said:

@TheCowman That's assuming what you wrote could be considered humor.

So bad humor equals trolling?

Guess I better keep the puns to myself then or I might get banned.

#84 Posted by Hailinel (24830 posts) -
@TheCowman Whatever it was, it was off-topic.

On topic, I am looking forward to getting back into the groove with Kokoro.
#85 Posted by TheCowman (60 posts) -

On topic: Yup...... looks like a Team Ninja game.

...... *shrug*

#86 Posted by Demoskinos (14835 posts) -
@Hailinel Looking forward to Hitomi myself. What platform will you play on? If you are getting 360 we should fight.
#87 Posted by Hailinel (24830 posts) -
@Demoskinos I'm getting the PS3 version, actually.
#88 Posted by Demoskinos (14835 posts) -
@Hailinel Bawwww. Oh well! I am curious to where the larger DOA 5 community will be. History would dictate Xbox but there have been DOA games on Playstation before. Should be interesting to see how both versions pan out.
#89 Posted by Deusx (1905 posts) -

BOOBIESSSSSSSSSSSSS

#90 Posted by ImmortalSaiyan (4678 posts) -

@Demoskinos said:

@Hailinel Bawwww. Oh well! I am curious to where the larger DOA 5 community will be. History would dictate Xbox but there have been DOA games on Playstation before. Should be interesting to see how both versions pan out.

I am curious as well. I would have though that the 360 would be hands down the most popular version but comments from people would say otherwise. I will be getting it on 360 myself.

#91 Posted by That1BlackGuy (217 posts) -

Yeah, I got to admit they really stepped it up with the visuals for this iteration, DoA have always been among the cream of the crop when it comes to presentation and aesthetics.

#92 Posted by CL60 (16906 posts) -

Now all they gotta do is make another volleyball game with improved graphics

#93 Posted by TheCowman (60 posts) -

@CL60 said:

Now all they gotta do is make another volleyball game with improved graphics

How about "Dead or Alive Xtreme Cross-Country Skiing"?

Just to mess with everyone by putting all the characters in heavy snow-gear.

#94 Posted by JackSukeru (5913 posts) -

One of the things that always turned me off of this series were the bad, same-y faces so yeah, that looks like a huge improvement. Especially when you see them side to side. I'm still more likely to get the Tekken game though, probably.

#95 Posted by punkxblaze (2985 posts) -

Not surprising considering DOA4 was essentially an Xbox game with a slightly higher polycount, like all early games in this gen. Seven years later, of course they've upped the ante on the graphics.

Also obligatory comment on digititties.

#96 Posted by Demoskinos (14835 posts) -
@TheCowman

@CL60 said:

Now all they gotta do is make another volleyball game with improved graphics

How about "Dead or Alive Xtreme Cross-Country Skiing"?

Just to mess with everyone by putting all the characters in heavy snow-gear.

I know your joking but goddamn I would play that game. They could do Skiing , snowboard , intertubing. Bah, now Im excited for something that will never exist.
#97 Posted by TheCowman (60 posts) -

@Demoskinos said:

@TheCowman

@CL60 said:

Now all they gotta do is make another volleyball game with improved graphics

How about "Dead or Alive Xtreme Cross-Country Skiing"?

Just to mess with everyone by putting all the characters in heavy snow-gear.



I know your joking but goddamn I would play that game. They could do Skiing , snowboard , intertubing. Bah, now Im excited for something that will never exist.

And instead of lounging by the pool between events, they could hang out at the ski lodge, build snowmen, and pet a Saint Bernard.

#98 Posted by Napalm (9020 posts) -

This game looks like it's following the generally standard japanese way of designing character models, where they all have long arms, huge hands, no torso, huge hips and giant legs. Yeah, it's more realistic, I guess, but it's still goofy and unrealistic in a weird way. I'm nit-picking and I'm not stating this as I reason I'm not interested, but I'm using this as my avenue to vent my irritation with this trend. I'm probably the only one who notices this, anyway. Oh well.

#99 Posted by Demoskinos (14835 posts) -

@TheCowman said:

@Demoskinos said:

@TheCowman

@CL60 said:

Now all they gotta do is make another volleyball game with improved graphics

How about "Dead or Alive Xtreme Cross-Country Skiing"?

Just to mess with everyone by putting all the characters in heavy snow-gear.



I know your joking but goddamn I would play that game. They could do Skiing , snowboard , intertubing. Bah, now Im excited for something that will never exist.

And instead of lounging by the pool between events, they could hang out at the ski lodge, build snowmen, and pet a Saint Bernard.

Sold!

#100 Posted by huntad (1940 posts) -

@Napalm said:

This game looks like it's following the generally standard japanese way of designing character models, where they all have long arms, huge hands, no torso, huge hips and giant legs. Yeah, it's more realistic, I guess, but it's still goofy and unrealistic in a weird way. I'm nit-picking and I'm not stating this as I reason I'm not interested, but I'm using this as my avenue to vent my irritation with this trend. I'm probably the only one who notices this, anyway. Oh well.

Yeah I also find them very odd. I don't think it's just a Japanese thing, but I see it as one too.

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