I'm pretty impressed with character model improvements.

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#101 Posted by Demoskinos (15103 posts) -

Seems that the floodgates have been released. Leaks came out showing Mila the other "new" fighter this time around and also confirming Gen-Fu as playble (not a huge surprise) as well as showing off many of the costumes in-game .http://imgur.com/a/qthhZ#0

#102 Posted by Mr_Misery (262 posts) -

Wow that actually makes me want to rent the game at least. DOA4 was one of the first 360 games I played.

#103 Posted by Aleryn (705 posts) -

Well look at that, for the first time their faces don't look up-rezzed from the Dreamcast version of DoA2. Good to see.

#104 Posted by Tyrrael (251 posts) -

Helena was actually my favorite character in DOA4, and I think her new character model looks fantastic. It actually looks pretty realistic and not just overly Japanese-ified like in DOA4. It didn't look bad, but the anime inspiration of many of the characters was pretty obvious. Now if only Team Ninja would take out that damn counter system. I will probably get some flac for this, but I get so tired of every match (in DOA4 anyway) just being a trial in who can spam counters the fastest and get lucky most often. They do way too much damage and give the computer a huge advantage too. I've died just from being countered to death without landing a single hit on a computer before. It doesn't matter how much you "change up" your attacks either. When the computer wants to counter, the computer gets to counter. It's the one reason that I just can't bring myself to play DOA4 anymore. I start to have fun and then it just becomes a counter-fest. I probably won't get DOA5, at least not right away, but I'm still curious to see how it turns out.

#105 Posted by onan (1286 posts) -

@Tyrrael said:

Helena was actually my favorite character in DOA4, and I think her new character model looks fantastic. It actually looks pretty realistic and not just overly Japanese-ified like in DOA4. It didn't look bad, but the anime inspiration of many of the characters was pretty obvious. Now if only Team Ninja would take out that damn counter system. I will probably get some flac for this, but I get so tired of every match (in DOA4 anyway) just being a trial in who can spam counters the fastest and get lucky most often. They do way too much damage and give the computer a huge advantage too. I've died just from being countered to death without landing a single hit on a computer before. It doesn't matter how much you "change up" your attacks either. When the computer wants to counter, the computer gets to counter. It's the one reason that I just can't bring myself to play DOA4 anymore. I start to have fun and then it just becomes a counter-fest. I probably won't get DOA5, at least not right away, but I'm still curious to see how it turns out.

They can't get rid of the counter system, that's a defining aspect of the game. It plays more or less like fast-paced rock, paper, scissors, with throws beating counters, counters beating attacks, and attacks beating throws. Granted, earlier iterations were weighted heavily toward countering because of the massive size of the counter window, but now it's much, much smaller, making it much harder to counter. Now I feel like it's shifted from maintaining the rock, paper, scissors gameplay to just existing to punish people who spam predictable attacks and isn't super-viable, especially with the further neutering of the counter by splitting mid-punches and mid-kicks into <-H and ->H, respectively (Although I'm pretty sure that was introduced in DOA4). Counters also don't do nearly as much damage as they used to.

#106 Posted by StriderNo9 (1144 posts) -

@Demoskinos: @Demoskinos said:

@adam1808 said:

@Demoskinos said:

@ajamafalous said:

@adam1808 said:

@Demoskinos said:

@adam1808: Because they are fun and thats kind of the point of videogames?

Can they be fun in a way that won't make me hide the box when real people are visiting?

I lol'd, because, yeah, that's so true.

I guess that might be the case if you are really insecure.

I have boundless admiration for anyone who can explain why they like Dead or Alive to someone who doesn't play games and not be given a strange look.

I've never been ashamed of enjoying videogames, but there's a limit and DOA is it. If it's still a fun game then put those mechanics in a wrapper that isn't so pandering.

Dude, if you care about what other people think of you then you are insecure.

Agreed, what's the big deal. Hide this from people? I'm not 12.

#107 Posted by mrfluke (5316 posts) -

@StriderNo9 said:

@Demoskinos: @Demoskinos said:

@adam1808 said:

@Demoskinos said:

@ajamafalous said:

@adam1808 said:

@Demoskinos said:

@adam1808: Because they are fun and thats kind of the point of videogames?

Can they be fun in a way that won't make me hide the box when real people are visiting?

I lol'd, because, yeah, that's so true.

I guess that might be the case if you are really insecure.

I have boundless admiration for anyone who can explain why they like Dead or Alive to someone who doesn't play games and not be given a strange look.

I've never been ashamed of enjoying videogames, but there's a limit and DOA is it. If it's still a fun game then put those mechanics in a wrapper that isn't so pandering.

Dude, if you care about what other people think of you then you are insecure.

Agreed, what's the big deal. Hide this from people? I'm not 12.

Agreed, like seriously people like this, and the sensationalist press outlets that make such a big issue over these stupid things.........

"UHHHH. THE GIRLS HAVE BIG TITIES", ok, for the most part (with probably the exception of tina) most of the chicks pretty much have realistic proportions, they are not common everyday proportions but they are realistic, heck my brother once dated a girl that was the splitting image of Lisa.

"THE CHARACTERZ BOOBZ BOUNCE WEIRD" im gonna guess this was just a layover from past games and they just keep on doing it cause its part of Doa, cause like it or not, this stupid little thing to the very least contributed to the games success, and cmon take a step back and realize that its fake videogame chicks boobs bouncing, FAKE, NOT REAL, DIGITAL, IMAGINARY, anyone thats held a real chicks breast knows that they don't go all crazy like that.

if these reasons are seriously bothering you from playing the game then you are insecure and you need to leave the internet and experience life a bit more.

#108 Edited by mrfluke (5316 posts) -

with the way how reactionary this new team ninja is to fan feedback, i wouldnt be surprised if they removed the stupid bounce, or to the very least go full on weird and get truly "hands on" and get some Japanese AV chicks and put mo cap stuff on their chests and just come out and say "fuck you all we love boobs" XD

personally i dont care, im more glad that they cleared up the whole "hayate!, hayate!"  thing kasumi and ayane kept spouting in the previous games story modes cause that in the past games did come off creepy, (hence in this game ayane address hayate as "master hayate" and


#109 Posted by JazGalaxy (1576 posts) -

@mrfluke said:

@StriderNo9 said:

@Demoskinos: @Demoskinos said:

@adam1808 said:

@Demoskinos said:

@ajamafalous said:

@adam1808 said:

@Demoskinos said:

@adam1808: Because they are fun and thats kind of the point of videogames?

Can they be fun in a way that won't make me hide the box when real people are visiting?

I lol'd, because, yeah, that's so true.

I guess that might be the case if you are really insecure.

I have boundless admiration for anyone who can explain why they like Dead or Alive to someone who doesn't play games and not be given a strange look.

I've never been ashamed of enjoying videogames, but there's a limit and DOA is it. If it's still a fun game then put those mechanics in a wrapper that isn't so pandering.

Dude, if you care about what other people think of you then you are insecure.

Agreed, what's the big deal. Hide this from people? I'm not 12.

Agreed, like seriously people like this, and the sensationalist press outlets that make such a big issue over these stupid things.........

"UHHHH. THE GIRLS HAVE BIG TITIES", ok, for the most part (with probably the exception of tina) most of the chicks pretty much have realistic proportions, they are not common everyday proportions but they are realistic, heck my brother once dated a girl that was the splitting image of Lisa.

"THE CHARACTERZ BOOBZ BOUNCE WEIRD" im gonna guess this was just a layover from past games and they just keep on doing it cause its part of Doa, cause like it or not, this stupid little thing to the very least contributed to the games success, and cmon take a step back and realize that its fake videogame chicks boobs bouncing, FAKE, NOT REAL, DIGITAL, IMAGINARY, anyone thats held a real chicks breast knows that they don't go all crazy like that.

if these reasons are seriously bothering you from playing the game then you are insecure and you need to leave the internet and experience life a bit more.

I think the breast bouncing is fascinating becuase in the next generation I would hope to see that kind of technology applied to whole bodies, in most games. The problem with DOA5 is that isntead of a momentary jiggle, it's like the surface of the ocean. It just keeps going and rarely ever stops.

I still think it adds quite a bit to the characters, though.

#110 Edited by mrfluke (5316 posts) -
@JazGalaxy said:

@mrfluke said:

@StriderNo9 said:

@Demoskinos: @Demoskinos said:

@adam1808 said:

@Demoskinos said:

@ajamafalous said:

@adam1808 said:

@Demoskinos said:

@adam1808: Because they are fun and thats kind of the point of videogames?

Can they be fun in a way that won't make me hide the box when real people are visiting?

I lol'd, because, yeah, that's so true.

I guess that might be the case if you are really insecure.

I have boundless admiration for anyone who can explain why they like Dead or Alive to someone who doesn't play games and not be given a strange look.

I've never been ashamed of enjoying videogames, but there's a limit and DOA is it. If it's still a fun game then put those mechanics in a wrapper that isn't so pandering.

Dude, if you care about what other people think of you then you are insecure.

Agreed, what's the big deal. Hide this from people? I'm not 12.

Agreed, like seriously people like this, and the sensationalist press outlets that make such a big issue over these stupid things.........

"UHHHH. THE GIRLS HAVE BIG TITIES", ok, for the most part (with probably the exception of tina) most of the chicks pretty much have realistic proportions, they are not common everyday proportions but they are realistic, heck my brother once dated a girl that was the splitting image of Lisa.

"THE CHARACTERZ BOOBZ BOUNCE WEIRD" im gonna guess this was just a layover from past games and they just keep on doing it cause its part of Doa, cause like it or not, this stupid little thing to the very least contributed to the games success, and cmon take a step back and realize that its fake videogame chicks boobs bouncing, FAKE, NOT REAL, DIGITAL, IMAGINARY, anyone thats held a real chicks breast knows that they don't go all crazy like that.

if these reasons are seriously bothering you from playing the game then you are insecure and you need to leave the internet and experience life a bit more.

I think the breast bouncing is fascinating becuase in the next generation I would hope to see that kind of technology applied to whole bodies, in most games. The problem with DOA5 is that isntead of a momentary jiggle, it's like the surface of the ocean. It just keeps going and rarely ever stops.

I still think it adds quite a bit to the characters, though.

eh i dont think i can agree with you fully on that point on that it adds quite a bit to the characters., but i do at least see where you are coming from in that its fascinating that its even a thing. 
 
Personally i think if they so want to get "the physics" right, then they need to go truly "hands on",  cause as much as they had said they went hands on for this game, they sure as hell didnt
 
hire some Japanese AV women (id imagine those would be the only women that would be willing to do their hands on tests and the quickest way to find chicks with doa proportions)  and specifically do performance capture on their chests. and if the US Press bothers them once Doa 6 rolls around,  then just come out clean and essentially say something along the sorts of " fuck you guys we love boobs, if you have a problem with it, then dont buy it, we're gonna do our thing"
#111 Posted by LiquidPrince (16119 posts) -

Yeah, me too. The boobs don't jiggle enough for me though. They're too tame... I want them to just flop all over. At least I want a mode for that XD

#112 Posted by Dagbiker (6978 posts) -

In the next generation there will be a whole processor dedicated to breast bounce.

#113 Posted by Zekhariah (697 posts) -

The fighting system in DOA seems really intersting to me (not into the 2D or steet fighter style). But the boob thing makes me think it would be awkward if I have the box out while anyone drops by.

I do hope there is a eventual next gen fighting game that trys to nail realistic physics on everything about the characters though, it would add a lot to the feeling of impact in the presentation.

#114 Posted by StriderNo9 (1144 posts) -

I would say the most rediculous thing about DOA is how their tits bounce when they are laying on the floor panting, but that can be ignored because this is a quality game.

#115 Posted by mrfluke (5316 posts) -
#116 Posted by Demoskinos (15103 posts) -

@mrfluke: DAT SUIT.

#117 Posted by mrfluke (5316 posts) -

@Demoskinos: DAT EVERYTHING :P

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