(For Dead Space fans out there) what do you think of this news?

#1 Posted by NTM (7546 posts) -

http://kotaku.com/5863657/ea-wants-to-make-a-dead-space-first+person+shooter-and-more

I don't know, but dammit, I want Dead Space 3, and I want it to be like the others, just improved like a sequel should be. An Uncharted-like Dead Space? Eh, why? Well, if they can make a great game out of all these new Dead Space games, then I'm in, but really, I have to worry about them messing something up for three, which this is the case of if it's not broken, don't fix it. I'm hoping they don't make Dead Space 3 into some Uncharted-like FPS, whatever the hell that would be (though I doubt it of course). What do you guys make of it? Excited about the rumors if true, or just don't care right now?

#2 Posted by Hailinel (25205 posts) -

How do you make an Uncharted-like FPS when Uncharted is a third-person shooter?

#3 Posted by JasonR86 (9728 posts) -

I don't think Dead Space as a brand is strong enough to warrant multiple styles of gameplay like a FPS and a Flight-Game. I think that they are assuming that the brand is more important and more diverse and expandable then it really is.

#4 Posted by MikeGosot (3227 posts) -
@Hailinel said:

How do you make an Uncharted-like FPS when Uncharted is a third-person shooter?

With QTE's. They solve everything.
#5 Posted by Rattle618 (1456 posts) -

A change is welcomed in this franchise, at least for me. I hope they take the time to get it right though.

#6 Posted by RE_Player1 (7526 posts) -

I thought Extraction was solid title,despite it not selling particularly well, and showed me that the universe can have multiple game types. First person shooter? Sure. As long as they can tell a great story and the game is polished like all the previous games in the franchise than I'm all for it. Also I understand I might be in the minority here, I've read the book and watched the movies so I'm a pretty big fan that will probably get anything Dead Space related :P

#7 Edited by Cloudenvy (5891 posts) -

I'm more worried about what would happen to the cool HUD stuff than the gameplay. : (

#8 Posted by UnrealDP (1221 posts) -

A big change in the Dead Space formula would be a nice change of pace compared to every other sequel I've seen this year. I don't mean to complain though, it's been a great year for video games and more of the same isn't all bad.

#9 Posted by The_Laughing_Man (13629 posts) -

I have played both games fully near 5 times over. (Not extraction) This MIGHT work if they do not try to force in the jump scares. THey really need to make the person feel alone and well..ya just alone. And not have any of that super over powered one many army stuff. You are a weak frail human vs the army of undead creatures. From big to small they all want you dead.  

#10 Posted by Afroman269 (7387 posts) -

Please don't make it an FPS. Please don't .

#11 Posted by NTM (7546 posts) -

@msavo said:

I've read the book and watched the movies so I'm a pretty big fan that will probably get anything Dead Space related :P

No, same here. Books, comics, and seen the films (one of which multiple times). The only thing I really disliked when it comes to Dead Space though was Ignition, I still have yet to play the iPhone/iPad game, though I know what it's all about.

#12 Posted by dancingpolkabear (216 posts) -

I'm fine with most of what they do, but the idea of playing Dead Space 3 co-operatively doesn't sound that great to me. Hopefully that's a separate mode and not the single-player

#13 Posted by RE_Player1 (7526 posts) -

@NTM: Ignition was horrible but I don't consider that anything more than a pre-order bonus, although it was cool how the end of that is the start of 2 and they did do a good job with those special rooms. For the iPad/iPhone game I thought it was really neat and actually tells a nice short story. I got it for 99 cents though so it's pretty hard to be disappointed in something that cheap.

#14 Posted by NTM (7546 posts) -

@The_Laughing_Man: I've beaten the first about eight times on PS3 and once more on PC, though I guess I took it slow because I played it from its release to the seconds release on and off, and I've beaten Dead Space 2 about ten times now. I don't know, I think both work very well with what they do, I think they just need to mix what they have from both to get the right balance. To me though, they're almost perfect for my interests. I'm still playing Dead Space 2 on and off.

#15 Posted by Lego_My_Eggo (1066 posts) -

I already felt Dead Space 2 had a sort of Uncharted feel to it with some of the great set pieces, the pace of the story and the quality of the game overall, but if they add too much action/characters to the game then they risk losing the atmosphere that the previous games where good at. And a generic FPS or a flight game with the Dead Space name on it are definitely not what i am looking for, That just looks like EA trying to milk the franchise like Need For Speed with all those games.

#16 Posted by moelarrycurly (668 posts) -

Still waiting for that Dead Space / Mass Effect crossover.

#17 Posted by RandomInternetUser (6789 posts) -

I fucking loved DS1, but found DS2 to be a bit of a chore to play through near the end. It could use some changes to the formula, but probably not this.

#18 Posted by NTM (7546 posts) -

@moelarrycurly said:

Still waiting for that Dead Space / Mass Effect crossover.

Ha ha, yes, very much so. I can't believe they didn't have some sort of DLC. Maybe my Shepard could where one of Isaac's suits, or vice versa. Something as simple as that would make me happy-er.

#19 Posted by NTM (7546 posts) -

@Lego_My_Eggo said:

I already felt Dead Space 2 had a sort of Uncharted feel to it with some of the great set pieces, the pace of the story and the quality of the game overall, but if they add too much action/characters to the game then they risk losing the atmosphere that the previous games where good at. And a generic FPS or a flight game with the Dead Space name on it are definitely not what i am looking for, That just looks like EA trying to milk the franchise like Need For Speed with all those games.

I just hope anything that comes out of Dead Space, it's not like Alien 3 and Resurrection was to Alien and Aliens. I hope it's consistently as good as they have been.

#20 Posted by Soapy86 (2623 posts) -

I loved the first Dead Space, but when they made the rail shooter and then started talking about how they were making Dead Space 2 more actiony, I lost interest in the series real fucking quick. Making the next one an FPS seems like the natural next step in the direction this series has been headed.

#21 Posted by NTM (7546 posts) -

@Soapy86: Have you played the second?

#22 Edited by mlarrabee (3064 posts) -

They won't actually do it. Nearly every unique aspect in Dead Space requires the current player perspective.

EDIT: Let me rephrase that. They won't do that for DS3. They very well may for any bastard sequels.

#23 Posted by Soapy86 (2623 posts) -

@NTM: Nope.

#24 Posted by Faint (833 posts) -

One of the series' strengths for me is the over the shoulder perspective. I'm very fond of it.

#25 Posted by TooWalrus (13257 posts) -

@MikeGosot said:

@Hailinel said:

How do you make an Uncharted-like FPS when Uncharted is a third-person shooter?

With QTE's. They solve everything.

Hopefully not- maybe it would be kind of mirrors-edgey.

#26 Posted by NTM (7546 posts) -

@Soapy86: Awww, that's too bad. It's a fantastic game.

#27 Posted by captain_clayman (3328 posts) -

noooooooo, if they do that it'll just turn into boring shooter!  dead space 2 was already too much about action to be as awesome as dead space 1 was for me.  they should try and make DS3 legitimately scary instead of just intense.

#28 Posted by phish09 (1110 posts) -

I actually thought Dead Space 2 was pretty Uncharted-like. I don't know if I think that Dead Space 3 should be a First Person game, but I also think that first person horror games are way scarier than third person ones.

#29 Posted by Redbullet685 (6085 posts) -

Need to see some gameplay before I decide if I hate or love this idea.

#30 Edited by bybeach (5000 posts) -

I got a sinking feeling when a bunch of, I'll say it, suits, deliberated in a boardroom room and nearly killed Deep Space 3. As for the FPS mode I'm sure it can be done, but an FPS just doesn't seem right. Personal opinion.

But mostly, it's having EA either determining to monetize it or kill it that really makes me so sad. Sure money can lead to some good (ie good dev personnel, capital investment), but even more that is bad. Because nothing will be as important as to beat the last buck out of a 'Brand'. Not the Story, not the experience of a given individual, Issac in a unique Sci fi Horror survivor setting. Or even other individuals in other modes and such. But rather how many different ways can EA can make a fucking buck . I really enjoyed both Deep Space games, I felt there was focus on the franchise. Now I feel thats been put aside for the Brand.

#31 Edited by Soapy86 (2623 posts) -

@NTM: I'm sure it's great, but what that game is, isn't really what I want out of a horror game.

#32 Posted by Brodehouse (10131 posts) -

Guys, Dead Space 1 was an action game.

Also, action games aren't bad.

The FPS and 'action-adventure' (so like... they're adding jumping and a hookshot?) seem like it would take advantage of dead space stuff (which is to say, horrible monsters and aiming at limbs). The flight game? I want a great space action flight game... but Dead Space's ships were never the cool part. Give me that space action flight game in Mass Effect. Let me play Joker's Quest!

#33 Posted by JTB123 (1044 posts) -

Terrible idea, keep it third person, that's really all I have to say. Dead Space has some of the cleanest gameplay ever, why they would even consider altering that is crazy to me.

#34 Posted by BUCK3TM4N (549 posts) -

im sick of spin offs and sequels

#35 Posted by spankingaddict (2740 posts) -

As a big Dead Space fan , I'd be excited to see what direction they'd take with it being a FPS .

#36 Edited by Soapy86 (2623 posts) -

@Brodehouse said:

Guys, Dead Space 1 was an action game.

Indeed it was. I personally felt it was too actiony for a horror game, but I loved it in spite of that.

Also, action games aren't bad.

Did anyone say they were?

#37 Posted by Brodehouse (10131 posts) -
@Soapy86 the clear implication in this topic is more action = less quality. It's kind of been going around here lately that action games are for dummies.

Also, this strange idea also going around that horror is a gameplay genre and not just a thematic element like scifi or fantasy. Action is a genre, horror is a theme.
#38 Posted by NTM (7546 posts) -

Has anyone read the stuff in the link? Dead Space 3 isn't going to be FPS, or like Uncharted, those are the other rumored to be Dead Space games, not Dead Space 3.

#39 Edited by AngriGhandi (792 posts) -

Read the article. Not super thrilled. A Dead Space game without zero gravity and vacuum segments sounds like throwing out half the goddamn premise to me.

And I already feel like Dead Space 2 went too far in the set-piece, roller-coaster-y direction. Fun to play, but less evocative. Less interesting. Certainly less scary. It didn't even feel like you were in space half the time. They should not be going further in that direction.

I would much rather they take the original game's concept of exploring and surviving in a single cohesive, well-realized location, and do more with that. Make it the Arkham Asylum of survival horror, or something. More open-endedness. More gameplay systems. More vacuum.

Granted, they could still do that on an ice planet, make it kind of like The Thing-- which certainly would fit in with the aesthetic. But god dammit, space.

I want more space.

#40 Posted by Soapy86 (2623 posts) -

@Brodehouse said:

@Soapy86 the clear implication in this topic is more action = less quality.

Well, I'm not going to speak for anyone but myself, but for me it's not about "more action = less quality", but more of "more action in a horror game = a horror game Soapy doesn't want to play"

It's kind of been going around here lately that action games are for dummies.

That's a common opinion, but I don't think it's one without some merit. Action games aren't inherently bad or dumb, but you would be blind if you didn't notice that publishers pander to... "a broader audience" with promises of lots of action and combat. See the promotion and marketing of nearly every AAA game. Action games aren't necessarily for dummies, but they certainly have a way of attracting them.

Having said that, I haven't noticed that attitude here on Giant Bomb very much.

Also, this strange idea also going around that horror is a gameplay genre and not just a thematic element like scifi or fantasy. Action is a genre, horror is a theme.

You're right that horror isn't a genre, but I think as a theme it suits other genres much, much better than action games. The problem with action horror games is that most of them aren't scary, and it's like they don't even try to be. They're all just third person shooters with dark lighting and extra gore.

#41 Posted by DarkShaper (1349 posts) -

The only way I would play a Dead Space flight game would be if I fought Voltron like monsters and had to cut off their robot limbs. The other stuff has me at a wait and see feeling.

#42 Posted by bybeach (5000 posts) -

Another thing, the snow world. I objected to that in a proposed sequel for another game, because to me covering everything in snow and making the world view obscure is actually kind of lazy. Sure you can't see whats coming if everything is smooth white mounds and you can't see 3 ft in front of you. You can have weird shit pop out all night, long but it is not really very creative.

Have to admit though, I haven't actually seen Dead Space 3...

#43 Posted by MikeGosot (3227 posts) -
@TooWalrus said:

@MikeGosot said:

@Hailinel said:

How do you make an Uncharted-like FPS when Uncharted is a third-person shooter?

With QTE's. They solve everything.

Hopefully not- maybe it would be kind of mirrors-edgey.

Well, if they are trying to kill the series, QTE's would be the weapon of choice.
#44 Posted by JeanLuc (3608 posts) -

I'm not big on this idea. Just stick with what works EA. Turning Dead Space into a FPS will not take down Call of Duty.

#45 Posted by Sawboss (95 posts) -

I don't like EA's ideas but I'm not sure what else to do with franchise after 3. I definitely don't think changing genres is the right choice though. If anything maybe going more open is the right choice, perhaps keep perspective the same, but not a linear.

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