Game of the Year, imo

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#1 Posted by Cataphract1014 (1312 posts) -

Aside from boss fights that really have no place in a game like this, this game is perfection. 
 
Jeff was ragging on the AI and combat, but I thought it was awesome.  I love stealth games.  I love clearing an entire level without being seen and leaving a stack of 5 unconscious guys in a vent.  I wonder what that would look like when they start to wake up.  5 pairs of legs all tangled in a air duct.
 
The witcher 2 is 2nd for me, but it loses out because it made me want to uninstall it during the "tutorial".

#2 Posted by zombie2011 (5048 posts) -

good call seeing the biggest games this year haven't even come out yet.

#3 Posted by Oldirtybearon (4881 posts) -

the boss fights aren't bad per se, but the fact that there's no "stealthy" way to approach those bosses is what kills them for me. I was spec'd out for non-lethal stealth, and each boss was an absolute nightmare.  However if the "boss battles" were more like that one mission with the pilot (you know the one I'm talking about), I think that would've been more conducive to the Deus Ex experience. 
 
That being said, yeah, the AI is bad, and the combat is not as good as it could be, but I think people complaining about those things are missing the point. Deus Ex was never a shoot 'em up. I'd venture to say it was always more about stealth and picking your spots and going through a level like a ghost. That's been my experience with Deus Ex and HR anyhow.

#4 Posted by AhmadMetallic (18954 posts) -

Are you sure it's not your augmentations talking?

#5 Posted by wemibelec90 (1830 posts) -

Not to be one of those annoying Internet people, but shouldn't you wait until the whole year is over to say things like "This is the Game of the Year."?
#6 Posted by Cataphract1014 (1312 posts) -
@zombie2011 said:

good call seeing the biggest games this year haven't even come out yet.

I didn't like Oblivion that much, so I probably won't be interested in Skyrim.
 
Uncharted 2 was amazing, but my PS3 is broken.   And that type of game can't be a game of the year for me personally.
 
Batman will be good.
 
Um, I don't know what else there is.  Unless Diablo 3 comes out this year(lolololol).
#7 Posted by eroticfishcake (7789 posts) -

It's a strong contender...but Skyrim isn't out yet. Not to mention a bunch of other great titles later this year.

#8 Posted by Spoonman671 (4769 posts) -

As long as the gameplay isn't important in your games.

#9 Posted by Oldirtybearon (4881 posts) -
@Spoonman671 said:
As long as the gameplay isn't important in your games.
The gameplay is solid. The reason people mention more "nitpicks" than anything else is because mentioning all of the awesome stuff in this game would be spoiling a hell of a lot of the experience. I can't give you specific examples of my favourite gameplay moments because I'd need to provide context, context that would spoil that particular mission or event. It's the same reason Jeff couldn't really come out and say why the game affected him the way it did.
#10 Posted by Swoxx (3008 posts) -

@zombie2011 said:

good call seeing the biggest games this year haven't even come out yet.

My sentiments exactly.

#11 Posted by valrog (3648 posts) -

I don't know, this year's Game of The Year is going to be hard to choose for me...

#12 Posted by AhmadMetallic (18954 posts) -
@KingWilly said:
@Spoonman671 said:
As long as the gameplay isn't important in your games.
The gameplay is solid. The reason people mention more "nitpicks" than anything else is because mentioning all of the awesome stuff in this game would be spoiling a hell of a lot of the experience. I can't give you specific examples of my favourite gameplay moments because I'd need to provide context, context that would spoil that particular mission or event. It's the same reason Jeff couldn't really come out and say why the game affected him the way it did.
Thanks for the reassurance!
#13 Posted by Creamypies (4091 posts) -
#14 Posted by kingzetta (4307 posts) -

There are still like 15 huge games still to come out

#15 Edited by Cataphract1014 (1312 posts) -
@Spoonman671 said:

As long as the gameplay isn't important in your games.

I liked the gameplay?
 

@kingzetta said:

There are still like 15 huge games still to come out

I can only think of like 3, so they aren't that huge to me apparently.
#16 Posted by NekuCTR (1663 posts) -

every response is people ragging on another persons opinions, oh how I love these forums. PERHAPS YOU MISSED THE I-M-O!!!!!

#17 Posted by kingzetta (4307 posts) -
@Cataphract1014 said:
@Spoonman671 said:

As long as the gameplay isn't important in your games.

I liked the gameplay?
 

@kingzetta said:

There are still like 15 huge games still to come out

I can only think of like 3, so they aren't that huge to me apparently.
I feel sorry for you then.
#18 Edited by Klei (1768 posts) -

I think Deus Ex : Human Revolution may not be going to win the GOTY, but it will win in one particular area. You see, unlike many games that are released throughout 2011, it will be one of the few that WILL be remembered as the years go on. We've got a modern classic in our hands. It reminds me of the first Deus Ex, actually. It didn't score 9's on the metacritic, yet it became one of the greatest games of all time.
#19 Posted by Cataphract1014 (1312 posts) -
@kingzetta: Why?  I can think of Skyrim, Batman, and Uncharted as "huge" games.  What else is huge in your opinion that are the other 12? 
 
Battlefield I guess, but it really isn't on my radar as something I have to play.   So that is 4.  What are the other 11?
#20 Posted by louiedog (2335 posts) -

@Cataphract1014 said:

@kingzetta: Why? I can think of Skyrim, Batman, and Uncharted as "huge" games. What else is huge in your opinion that are the other 12? Battlefield I guess, but it really isn't on my radar as something I have to play. So that is 4. What are the other 11?

MW3, Gears, Rage, Forza, Assassin's Creed, Saints Row, and Madden. Those are just the big budget games that are sequels to undeniably well received franchises or, in the case of Rage, coming from a strong pedigree. There's also stuff like Dead Island, Driver San Francisco (didn't put this above because arcade racers haven't always been well received lately, even when they're great), Dark Souls, and Warhammer. Even though I'll probably only play a couple of them, all of those games have been receiving positive buzz and have the potential to be both critical and/or commercial successes. Happy? Probably not.

#21 Posted by jayjonesjunior (1087 posts) -
@Cataphract1014: you thought the game was good because you never had to deal with its flaws like AI and the shooting, this is not a Stealth game, its a decision game, with options, if only one of those options works (stealth) the game is not good.
 
definitely not GOTY.
#22 Posted by theguy (797 posts) -

I'm really enjoying it at the moment but I'm waiting for Skyrim and Battlefield. I'm guessing Skyrim will be my goty but I'll have to wait and see.

#23 Posted by Animasta (14719 posts) -

For me, it's in the top 3, might be GOTY but I dunno... witcher 2 and portal 2 were AWFULLY GOOD.

#24 Posted by bill (98 posts) -
@zombie2011 said:

good call seeing the biggest games this year haven't even come out yet.

lmfao
#25 Posted by Napalm (9020 posts) -
@zombie2011 said:

good call seeing the biggest games this year haven't even come out yet.

Nice bullshit, condescending attitude.
#26 Posted by Vodun (2370 posts) -

Mother fucker! Game got dopefish in it! GOTY!

#27 Posted by 2HeadedNinja (1768 posts) -

I wouldnt go that far with Portal 2 and Witcher 2 out this year (and a bunch of games still on the way). But the game is certainly better than people say it is. If they make a sequel (I hope they will) and get the shooting up to ME2 level (or ME3 by that time) and overall polish it a little more ... that would be awesome.

#28 Posted by DAFTPUNK (1213 posts) -

BATMAN BATMAN BATMAN...INFINITE DRAGONS will CONQUER! 

#29 Posted by Cataphract1014 (1312 posts) -
@louiedog said:

@Cataphract1014 said:

@kingzetta: Why? I can think of Skyrim, Batman, and Uncharted as "huge" games. What else is huge in your opinion that are the other 12? Battlefield I guess, but it really isn't on my radar as something I have to play. So that is 4. What are the other 11?

MW3, Gears, Rage, Forza, Assassin's Creed, Saints Row, and Madden. Those are just the big budget games that are sequels to undeniably well received franchises or, in the case of Rage, coming from a strong pedigree. There's also stuff like Dead Island, Driver San Francisco (didn't put this above because arcade racers haven't always been well received lately, even when they're great), Dark Souls, and Warhammer. Even though I'll probably only play a couple of them, all of those games have been receiving positive buzz and have the potential to be both critical and/or commercial successes. Happy? Probably not.

I did forget about Assassin's Creed, but aside from Rage none of those are really that interesting to me.  I'll probably play Gears eventually though.  For a game to be considered GOTY for me, I have to want it the day it comes out.  The only game listed there is Assassin's creed would be a day 1 if I have the spare money.
@jayjonesjunior said:
@Cataphract1014: you thought the game was good because you never had to deal with its flaws like AI and the shooting, this is not a Stealth game, its a decision game, with options, if only one of those options works (stealth) the game is not good.  definitely not GOTY.
Thanks for telling me why I think something.  Where would I be without people on the internet telling me my opinion is wrong?
#30 Posted by louiedog (2335 posts) -

@Cataphract1014 said:

@louiedog said:

@Cataphract1014 said:

@kingzetta: Why? I can think of Skyrim, Batman, and Uncharted as "huge" games. What else is huge in your opinion that are the other 12? Battlefield I guess, but it really isn't on my radar as something I have to play. So that is 4. What are the other 11?

MW3, Gears, Rage, Forza, Assassin's Creed, Saints Row, and Madden. Those are just the big budget games that are sequels to undeniably well received franchises or, in the case of Rage, coming from a strong pedigree. There's also stuff like Dead Island, Driver San Francisco (didn't put this above because arcade racers haven't always been well received lately, even when they're great), Dark Souls, and Warhammer. Even though I'll probably only play a couple of them, all of those games have been receiving positive buzz and have the potential to be both critical and/or commercial successes. Happy? Probably not.

I did forget about Assassin's Creed, but aside from Rage none of those are really that interesting to me. I'll probably play Gears eventually though. For a game to be considered GOTY for me, I have to want it the day it comes out. The only game listed there is Assassin's creed would be a day 1 if I have the spare money.

Most of them don't interest me either. Someone said there were still 15 big games coming out this year and you questioned it. I don't know why you seem to think they should be centered around your interests.

#31 Posted by NTM (7542 posts) -
@Cataphract1014: I haven't played it yet, so I can't say how good I think it is, but I will say this; maybe it's game of the year for you, but don't expect many, or any, gaming site or magazine to give it its game of the year.
#32 Posted by jayjonesjunior (1087 posts) -
@Cataphract1014: You have no opinion, use the other options the game provides you and finish it again, one or two more times and then come back here and tell us if it's really so far The GOTY.
 
How can you have a opinion if you don't have all the facts at hand? you only finished the game once and using a single method.
 
Again, i wouldn't be saying this if it was a purely stealth game, but it's NOT!
#33 Posted by chronicsmoke (999 posts) -

Its a contender but there still is alot of great games that havent been released yet

#34 Posted by Cataphract1014 (1312 posts) -
@jayjonesjunior said:
@Cataphract1014: You have no opinion, use the other options the game provides you and finish it again, one or two more times and then come back here and tell us if it's really so far The GOTY.  How can you have a opinion if you don't have all the facts at hand? you only finished the game once and using a single method.  Again, i wouldn't be saying this if it was a purely stealth game, but it's NOT!
Fantastic way to talk to people. "You didn't experience what I did so you have no opinion."  I like the stealth aspect.  I have no desire to play it in any other way.  Telling me to go play it in a way that I don't want to play it as isn't going to get me to agree without that it sucks.
#35 Posted by jayjonesjunior (1087 posts) -
@Cataphract1014 said:
@jayjonesjunior said:
@Cataphract1014: You have no opinion, use the other options the game provides you and finish it again, one or two more times and then come back here and tell us if it's really so far The GOTY.  How can you have a opinion if you don't have all the facts at hand? you only finished the game once and using a single method.  Again, i wouldn't be saying this if it was a purely stealth game, but it's NOT!
Fantastic way to talk to people. "You didn't experience what I did so you have no opinion."  I like the stealth aspect.  I have no desire to play it in any other way.  Telling me to go play it in a way that I don't want to play it as isn't going to get me to agree without that it sucks.
i'm just saying if you want to be a journalist(the kind of people that says what's really GOTY material) and want people to respect your opinion you gotta have a solid one.
#36 Posted by AlisterCat (5720 posts) -

There is still some time to go. You might play something else you like more. For me it's got to be third, but until like 3 days before release I had no idea what this game was. Very surprised.

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#37 Posted by Asurastrike (2174 posts) -

Saint's Row The Third looks amazing, bro.

#38 Posted by redbliss (648 posts) -

It's the end of the year? 
 
HAPPY NEW YEAR!!!!!! 

#39 Posted by OtakuGamer (1285 posts) -

I really love this game so far. The story, the art direction, the nonlinearity...defiantly is going to be on the list if not the best.

#40 Posted by haggis (1677 posts) -
@KingWilly said:
the boss fights aren't bad per se, but the fact that there's no "stealthy" way to approach those bosses is what kills them for me. I was spec'd out for non-lethal stealth, and each boss was an absolute nightmare.  However if the "boss battles" were more like that one mission with the pilot (you know the one I'm talking about), I think that would've been more conducive to the Deus Ex experience.  That being said, yeah, the AI is bad, and the combat is not as good as it could be, but I think people complaining about those things are missing the point. Deus Ex was never a shoot 'em up. I'd venture to say it was always more about stealth and picking your spots and going through a level like a ghost. That's been my experience with Deus Ex and HR anyhow.
Same here, spec'd for non-lethal stealth. I went into the first boss battle with a few grenades I had just found, though and ... no problem. Of course, I always assumed at some point I'd fail the stealth and need the combat rifle, so I had it on me. That helped a bit. But yeah, I'm feeling you on the boss battles. More than anywhere else, those sections begged for stealth options. I'm not sure what they were thinking. But yes, the stealth is king here and the rest of the game brings it together nicely. So damned many options. The game does have its weaknesses, but for the most part the AI and combat are about as good as I need them to be.
#41 Posted by MooseyMcMan (11391 posts) -

It's certainly my favorite game of the year (and I haven't even finished it). Well, at least thus far. Some good competition coming in the next few months. Like Batman. BATMAN! 

#42 Posted by Weltal (2275 posts) -

Portal 2 came out this year. I cannot agree.

Still a really good game.

#43 Posted by haggis (1677 posts) -
@jayjonesjunior said:
@Cataphract1014 said:
@jayjonesjunior said:
@Cataphract1014: You have no opinion, use the other options the game provides you and finish it again, one or two more times and then come back here and tell us if it's really so far The GOTY.  How can you have a opinion if you don't have all the facts at hand? you only finished the game once and using a single method.  Again, i wouldn't be saying this if it was a purely stealth game, but it's NOT!
Fantastic way to talk to people. "You didn't experience what I did so you have no opinion."  I like the stealth aspect.  I have no desire to play it in any other way.  Telling me to go play it in a way that I don't want to play it as isn't going to get me to agree without that it sucks.
i'm just saying if you want to be a journalist(the kind of people that says what's really GOTY material) and want people to respect your opinion you gotta have a solid one.
I thought the opinion was solid. Telling people their opinion is wrong because they didn't make the same choices as you is sort of lame. He finished the game. He liked it. That's enough for me to take their opinion seriously, even if I disagree. (So far, I don't, but then I haven't finished the game).
#44 Posted by Tim_the_Corsair (3065 posts) -

Definitely a contender, but I wouldn't be calling it just yet.

Mind you, I knew ME2 was my GotY the moment I played it when it came out. Sometimes you just know, so if you're sure then fuck the haters.

#45 Posted by Yanngc33 (4461 posts) -

The boss fights suck, the AI is pathetic, the load times are a bit too long. Plus I bought the game in France and the french dub is TERRIBLE

#46 Posted by Animasta (14719 posts) -

@Yanngc33 said:

The boss fights suck, the AI is pathetic, the load times are a bit too long. Plus I bought the game in France and the french dub is TERRIBLE

that's hilarious, seeing as how they're FROM Montreal.

#47 Posted by Yanngc33 (4461 posts) -
@Laketown

@Yanngc33 said:

The boss fights suck, the AI is pathetic, the load times are a bit too long. Plus I bought the game in France and the french dub is TERRIBLE

that's hilarious, seeing as how they're FROM Montreal.

I know! I had my hopes up at the beginning but then it all went downhill when words stopped syncing with mouths
#48 Posted by Oldirtybearon (4881 posts) -
@haggis said:
@jayjonesjunior said:
@Cataphract1014 said:
@jayjonesjunior said:
@Cataphract1014: You have no opinion, use the other options the game provides you and finish it again, one or two more times and then come back here and tell us if it's really so far The GOTY.  How can you have a opinion if you don't have all the facts at hand? you only finished the game once and using a single method.  Again, i wouldn't be saying this if it was a purely stealth game, but it's NOT!
Fantastic way to talk to people. "You didn't experience what I did so you have no opinion."  I like the stealth aspect.  I have no desire to play it in any other way.  Telling me to go play it in a way that I don't want to play it as isn't going to get me to agree without that it sucks.
i'm just saying if you want to be a journalist(the kind of people that says what's really GOTY material) and want people to respect your opinion you gotta have a solid one.
I thought the opinion was solid. Telling people their opinion is wrong because they didn't make the same choices as you is sort of lame. He finished the game. He liked it. That's enough for me to take their opinion seriously, even if I disagree. (So far, I don't, but then I haven't finished the game).
If anyone can do the final boss fight and not lose all faith in humanity, they're better people than I am.
 
I have never felt so much disgust for people, unless we're talking about films like Schindler's List. To me a GOTY made me feels something. And not the simple "That was a good game for sixty dollars" something, I mean feel something. Human Revolution surprised me in how much I felt. Maybe other people feel disconnected from the story/experience because they're running around and murdering everything they see (It's valid. Says terrible things about their personality, but valid), but I have gone to great lengths to avoid needless slaughter. Why? I killed a man by accident in the first post-aug mission and felt guilty. 
 
I don't feel guilt in games like Gears of War. I don't feel guilt in Dragon Age. Those games don't give me the option of accomplishing my goals without murder. Deus Ex does. And for better or worse, my conscience gets the better of me. 
 
For me, that's why Deus Ex: Human Revolution deserves consideration for Game of the Year.
#49 Posted by BrainSpecialist (554 posts) -

@Cataphract1014: It's not as good as Portal 2, and that came out earlier this year.

#50 Posted by Cataphract1014 (1312 posts) -
@Yanngc33 said:
The boss fights suck, the AI is pathetic, the load times are a bit too long. Plus I bought the game in France and the french dub is TERRIBLE
PC version got patched.  Load times are less than 10 seconds now. 
 
@BrainSpecialist said:

@Cataphract1014: It's not as good as Portal 2, and that came out earlier this year.

Portal 2 is a fantastic game, but I like more depth in a game.  Once you beat Portal 2, it will be the same every time you play it.  There are no different solutions, well I guess you can try and cheat the system, but the game will be the same every time through.
 
It really comes down to the Witcher 2 and Deus ex for me, but Deus Ex wins because at no point did I get so frustrated with it that I wanted to uninstall it.  I just started up another game of Deus Ex on the hardest difficultly trying to get the Don't kill anyone achievement.

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