Real Money AH will now require authenticators

#1 Posted by mosdl (3228 posts) -

Link.

Basically if you want to add money to Battle.net to make any real money purchases or retrieve any money you make selling stuff, your account needs to have an authenticator attached. No big surprise here given the account hacking going on.

#2 Posted by Driadon (2998 posts) -

Now I just hope they keep mixing up and refining the authenticator model, because a push like this is going to lead to a lot of people trying to crack that system.

#3 Posted by 71Ranchero (2771 posts) -

@Driadon said:

Now I just hope they keep mixing up and refining the authenticator model, because a push like this is going to lead to a lot of people trying to crack that system.

Im not sure Blizzards real money auction house is going to have an impact on the reliability of authenticators. The service is not exclusive to video games and its used in business all over the world. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Digipass

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#4 Posted by TooWalrus (13203 posts) -

Sounds good- the sooner they get this thing out, the better.

#5 Posted by Doctorchimp (4076 posts) -

Can someone let me know when people start making Blizzard out to be a fascist corporation that would destroy the freedom of players so they could put a stop to the "hacking"?

#6 Posted by TooWalrus (13203 posts) -

Also, anything involving Paypal and real money should be secure- I've got no problem with this.

#7 Posted by Ravenlight (8040 posts) -

@Doctorchimp said:

Can someone let me know when people start making Blizzard out to be a fascist corporation that would destroy the freedom of players so they could put a stop to the "hacking"?

Five posts an and that demographic hasn't shown up yet. Maybe they've already been hacked :P

#8 Posted by mosdl (3228 posts) -

Authenticators can be hacked, but that requires hacking into Blizzard's system (or the provider of the service if they are using an existing one).

#9 Posted by Ares42 (2672 posts) -

Calling it now, we're gonna see a mass of "follow this link and get 10% more blizz bucks for your money" email scams coming out. Digipass might be hard to hack, but it's still easy to spoof.

#10 Edited by Hyperglide (149 posts) -

If you were going to use the real money AH WITHOUT an authenticator then you're an idiot. But there are a lot of those on battle.net so that explains why Blizzard had to make this mandatory.

#11 Posted by Subjugation (4720 posts) -

Sounds good to me. I don't understand why people don't have a form of authenticator yet. If their account meant anything to them they would have one.

#12 Posted by jakob187 (21672 posts) -

Accounts with authenticators can still be hacked. I've seen it happen to people plenty of times where I work. Hell, my buddy got hacked last week, and he's got an authenticator.

What they need to do is actually make Battle.net more secure rather than pushing the authenticator like it's the end-all be-all of security functions.

Nonetheless, I'm still curious to see what the RMAH is going to do to the overall gold economy of WoW. If someone knows that they can buy a weapon for a couple of bucks on the RMAH, then why the hell bother with getting the some-odd million gold it would take to get the same item? = /

#13 Edited by EXTomar (4738 posts) -

I don't think anyone is saying that 2 step authentication is 100% secure (*) but given the choice between hacking battle.net and "hacking something else", the "hacking something else" is always easier. I'm still stumped why people believe otherwise.

What is probably going to be the "next thing" is that people trying to root their phones forge that doing that exposes their phone to more than usual. Once the phone gives up the "serial number" for the authenticator they can plug that into the authenticator software and pass the challenge request. Of course that would require that third party to have access to the account username, account password too....and people will still yell at the provider like it is their fault.

(*) People forget the easiest way to beat the mobile authenticator requires no tech skills: You simply take the key fob or their phone.

#14 Posted by Bourbon_Warrior (4523 posts) -

I seriously don't see the point of buying gold and weapons from auction houses. Isn't the whole point of this game finding better stuff, as soon as you buy the best stuff you are just not gonna have as much fun playing it.

#15 Posted by ajamafalous (11998 posts) -
@jakob187 said:

Accounts with authenticators can still be hacked. I've seen it happen to people plenty of times where I work. Hell, my buddy got hacked last week, and he's got an authenticator.

Does he have it set to ask every time or just when you attempt to log in from a new IP? Not having it ask every time is incredibly insecure because the IP can just be spoofed so that it won't ask. 
 
 
Also, @jakob187 said:

I'm still curious to see what the RMAH is going to do to the overall gold economy of WoW.

Typo?
#16 Posted by jakob187 (21672 posts) -

@Bourbon_Warrior said:

I seriously don't see the point of buying gold and weapons from auction houses. Isn't the whole point of this game finding better stuff, as soon as you buy the best stuff you are just not gonna have as much fun playing it.

When the company themselves have admitted that they've manipulated the chances of "better drops for your character" in order to draw focus to the Auction House, that pretty much killed that idea anyways.

Even then, you have to look at the Auction House like this: it's basically a concentrated place where all of those good drops are posted up for you to actually look at and overview. When it comes down to it, there's no "right" piece of gear or "best stuff" because you will always be playing around with other builds and trying out different stat sets. This will become particularly true when PvP launches, which is the bread and butter of Diablo late-game.

In essence, it's a good thing that the AH is available because it thins the herd of drops while also giving people an organized area to actually do their trading beyond the trade chat. Back in the D2 days, you had to be in a lobby with someone and basically spam them about it before they got pissed off and left.

So far, I've been happy with having the Auction House available. I just wish that people would work out some better pricing. Right now, there doesn't seem to be much equalization going on.

#17 Posted by EXTomar (4738 posts) -

@Bourbon_Warrior said:

I seriously don't see the point of buying gold and weapons from auction houses. Isn't the whole point of this game finding better stuff, as soon as you buy the best stuff you are just not gonna have as much fun playing it.

The way the game's classes are designed, the odds are against you that you will find what you need for that particular character such that roughly only 1/5 of the drops will be useful to that character let alone be possible upgrades. So yes you could buy something off the auction house that is an upgrade but the chance is kind of remote that it will be replaced immediately.

#18 Posted by Bourbon_Warrior (4523 posts) -

@EXTomar said:

@Bourbon_Warrior said:

I seriously don't see the point of buying gold and weapons from auction houses. Isn't the whole point of this game finding better stuff, as soon as you buy the best stuff you are just not gonna have as much fun playing it.

The way the game's classes are designed, the odds are against you that you will find what you need for that particular character such that roughly only 1/5 of the drops will be useful to that character let alone be possible upgrades. So yes you could buy something off the auction house that is an upgrade but the chance is kind of remote that it will be replaced immediately.

Your right when I play with my mate whos a mage, I just give any decent INT items to him and i get decent DEX items back.

#19 Posted by Bane (408 posts) -

@jakob187 said:

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Nonetheless, I'm still curious to see what the RMAH is going to do to the overall gold economy of WoW. If someone knows that they can buy a weapon for a couple of bucks on the RMAH, then why the hell bother with getting the some-odd million gold it would take to get the same item? = /

I read through a WTS thread on the official forums the other day where a crossbow had offers of up to $200. With that as a reference would buyouts in the double digit millions of gold equate to just a couple of bucks in the RMAH? I would be surprised if that ended up being the case.

#20 Posted by Example1013 (4834 posts) -

Rmah is going to create a separate pay-to-win tier of players, but thats besides the topic.

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