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    Game » consists of 9 releases. Released May 15, 2012

    Diablo III returns to the world of Sanctuary twenty years after the events of Diablo II with a new generation of heroes that must defeat the demonic threat from Hell.

    The Ending *Spoilers*

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    #1  Edited By NekuCTR

    Just finished up D3, and ready to hop into nightmare mode. But I noticed there wasn't one of "these" threads yet so I thought I would provide.

    I know the story isn't a huge deal in Diablo, but I feel like the fact that Leah was totally forgotten in the end was a huge deal. My character mentions at one point that she would "bring her back no matter how long it took" My guess is that will be the topic of the expansion. Feel free to expunge any other speculation or theories........ now.

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    #2  Edited By Heylook

    Leah IS diablo. E3 Mysteries

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    #3  Edited By probablytuna

    I'm more interested in what happens to Leah's mother after she went through that portal. Or was she a boss that I killed to get through to Diablo? I didn't really pay much attention, was too focused on finishing Normal and hop onto Nightmare. Also the story was pretty predictable, all the twists are pretty uninspired but as you said already, the story isn't that big a deal in Diablo I guess. Real good fun though.

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    #4  Edited By destruktive

    What I don't understand is, how did Diablo fuck adria.. that's a bad porno ready to be made

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    #5  Edited By StarvingGamer
    @destruktive Diablo fucked her when he was possessing the body of Leoric's son whatever his name was. So probably regular sex with maybe a little kink of aggro since Adria was apparently aware that she was secretly fucking Diablo.

    But yeah, obvious hooks for the expansions. There's going to be two of them, ya know.
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    Thought it was interesting that Diablo was portrayed as a more androgynous being in D3, as opposed to its prototypical demonic look.  
     
    Also, yeah, from what I understand Leah was used almost entirely as a case in which a growing, resurging Diablo could regain power. Not sure there is even a soul to recover, in her situation, as she was totally subsumed by the essence of the seven Evils. If you're familiar with the lore at all, then you might recognize that this is a similar tactic to the one Diablo used with Leoric's son, Prince Albrecht, before the events of the first game. 

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    #7  Edited By MrCandleguy

    The story was alright, nothing amazing. But the cut scenes WOW. so good looking! I'm sad tyreal didn't look like a badass angel again... ='[

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    #8  Edited By jakob187

    @HistoryInRust said:

    Thought it was interesting that Diablo was portrayed as a more androgynous being in D3, as opposed to its prototypical demonic look.

    Same here, but I just kept thinking "I'm fighting a xenomorph mixed with the alien from Species". It just felt...weird.

    Nonetheless, I'm pretty sure that Leah's soul was consumed after the transformation. Didn't you end up talking to her soul while on the way to fight Diablo?

    I don't know. I pay little attention to the lore and more to beating shit the fuck up.

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    #9  Edited By Zomgfruitbunnies

    I think the androgyny is a result of Andariel. Leah Diablo's back spines reminds me a lot of her.

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    #10  Edited By buft

    Just finished tonight all the way coop so there may have been some skipped text, i was under the impression that my barb mentioned that leahs soul was gone forever, the flavor text might be different for other classes with some of them pining for a rescue while the others are more content to move on with there lives towards a better future or something to that effect.that last cutscene though could roll right into Diablo being the falling star in nightmare which was the joke me and my coop partner made when we saw him falling.

    cutscenes 10/10

    tyrael not fliiping angel wings in last scene 0/10

    still a great ending but needs more cowbell.

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    #11  Edited By buft

    @probablytuna said:

    I'm more interested in what happens to Leah's mother after she went through that portal. Or was she a boss that I killed to get through to Diablo? I didn't really pay much attention, was too focused on finishing Normal and hop onto Nightmare. Also the story was pretty predictable, all the twists are pretty uninspired but as you said already, the story isn't that big a deal in Diablo I guess. Real good fun though.

    I don't believe you do fight her, i think for sure that will be the focus of any further story Diablo 3 gets. I didn't feel like the story was that predictable, it would make a great movie. I felt that because of the all the lore and additional information you get going from place to place its a little hard to keep your brain from coming to conclusions on its own. I bet if it was a shorter game with more story orientated gameplay you would have found it a different experience. AS you say though its not all about the story, loot!

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    #12  Edited By NekuCTR

    @buft said:

    Just finished tonight all the way coop so there may have been some skipped text, i was under the impression that my barb mentioned that leahs soul was gone forever, the flavor text might be different for other classes with some of them pining for a rescue while the others are more content to move on with there lives towards a better future or something to that effect.that last cutscene though could roll right into Diablo being the falling star in nightmare which was the joke me and my coop partner made when we saw him falling.

    cutscenes 10/10

    tyrael not fliiping angel wings in last scene 0/10

    still a great ending but needs more cowbell.

    Ya, my monk was pretty much convinced that she was still out there somewhere. Depending on how the other classes act she may or may not be toast. To me it just seems so easy to resurrect someone in that universe.

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    @Zomgfruitbunnies said:

    I think the androgyny is a result of Andariel. Leah Diablo's back spines reminds me a lot of her.

    Either that or his vessel being Leah. Diablo's had a slightly different look in each game. He had no tail in the original, a kind of awkward tail-and-upright gait in the second, and, like Jakob said, a distinctly Alien Queen (plus boobies) look in this one. 
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    #14  Edited By Dhutch

    Diablo was almost giving me a Kerrigan vibe, though they still referred to him as, well, 'him', which made the more feminized look really offputting for me. And as far as the ending goes, yeah Adria, as well as Imperius, are both unmentioned. Did anyone else get surprised when they retconned the Dark Wanderer to be Leoric's older son?

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    #15  Edited By Ares42  Online

    @Dhutch: Didn't Imperius die just before the final fight ? you know, when all the angels die.

    As for the ending, I actually really liked the spin they took with the fourth act. Making Diablo female, and setting it in heaven was probably the 2 biggest diversions they ever took from the "Diablo formula". I mean after fighting the Butcher in Act 1 (who suddenly has been promoted to act boss =o), and going to a desert area where you go through the sewers of the city and end up storming the palace things were looking very copy/paste.

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    #16  Edited By NekuCTR

    @Dhutch: I thought that the dark wanderer was always Leorics son. They did retconn the character from the first game to be a named dude (even though you could have been a lady.)

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    #17  Edited By Tennmuerti

    There are so many threads left dangling at the end.

    • Adria is still at large.
    • So what if we defeated Diablo/Prime in combat, who gives a fuck, these guys have had very specific kill requirements in the past, and they can just return to hell/limbo
    • the black soul-stone is not shattered it is just falling down in the end, so that thing still exists
    • Tyrael renames himself the angel of Wisdom, convenient that the real archangel of Wisdom is in Pandemonium loosing his shit over the World stone debacle
    • Imperius is corrupted but we never fought him and he is likely still alive, Diablo was corrupting the spire but hey we stopped him so angels are a ok now
    • speaking of which the Worldstone has been mentioned by Blizzard to only have been partly on Sanctuary when Tyrael destroyed it, so that thing has all but been confirmed to exist in some form back in Pandemonium or elsewhere, tying in neatly with the archangel of Wisdom slowly going nuts

    There is definitely going to be at least one expansion.

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    #18  Edited By happypup70

    @NekuCTR said:

    @Dhutch: I thought that the dark wanderer was always Leorics son. They did retconn the character from the first game to be a named dude (even though you could have been a lady.)

    The reason for that is in canon the warrior from Diablo 1 defeated Diablo. Also in diablo 2 it was the warrior from diablo 1 who put the soulstone in his head

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    @NekuCTR said:

    @Dhutch: I thought that the dark wanderer was always Leorics son. They did retconn the character from the first game to be a named dude (even though you could have been a lady.)

    Yeah. I'd beaten Diablo 1 as a Rogue, so I was bummed when the "Hero of Tristam" was unequivocally a dude. But it seems like Blizzard wanted from the outset for Diablo to fall to the "warrior" from that game. 
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    #20  Edited By Spitznock

    Here's hoping she makes a return in the inevitable expansion. She was my favorite character (even more-so than Tyrael).

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    #21  Edited By breadfan

    This is how I feel right about now. Not because the game was bad, but because I've finally finished Diablo 3!
     
      

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    #22  Edited By Panpipe

    Those thighs.

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    #23  Edited By Yadilie

    @Ares42 said:

    @Dhutch: Didn't Imperius die just before the final fight ? you know, when all the angels die.

    As for the ending, I actually really liked the spin they took with the fourth act. Making Diablo female, and setting it in heaven was probably the 2 biggest diversions they ever took from the "Diablo formula". I mean after fighting the Butcher in Act 1 (who suddenly has been promoted to act boss =o), and going to a desert area where you go through the sewers of the city and end up storming the palace things were looking very copy/paste.

    Don't forget that Act 3 is Arreat again. Story was third rate as well. Leah and Adria basically ruined it, not to mention the whole video game/tv trope of people being completely fucking ignorant to evil people. You'd think Tyrael would be like, "Whoa whoa. Adria? Something is fishy!"

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    #24  Edited By kyrieee

    @destruktive said:

    What I don't understand is, how did Diablo fuck adria.. that's a bad porno ready to be made

    He did it while he was still possessing the body of the wanderer in Diablo 2

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    #25  Edited By niamahai

    @kyrieee said:

    @destruktive said:

    What I don't understand is, how did Diablo fuck adria.. that's a bad porno ready to be made

    He did it while he was still possessing the body of the wanderer in Diablo 2

    I would pay $60 dollar to watch Adria fuck the Dark Wanderer - Blizzard CG style.

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    @Tennmuerti said:

    There are so many threads left dangling at the end.

    • Adria is still at large.
    • So what if we defeated Diablo/Prime in combat, who gives a fuck, these guys have had very specific kill requirements in the past, and they can just return to hell/limbo
    • the black soul-stone is not shattered it is just falling down in the end, so that thing still exists
    • Tyrael renames himself the angel of Wisdom, convenient that the real archangel of Wisdom is in Pandemonium loosing his shit over the World stone debacle
    • Imperius is corrupted but we never fought him and he is likely still alive, Diablo was corrupting the spire but hey we stopped him so angels are a ok now
    • speaking of which the Worldstone has been mentioned by Blizzard to only have been partly on Sanctuary when Tyrael destroyed it, so that thing has all but been confirmed to exist in some form back in Pandemonium or elsewhere, tying in neatly with the archangel of Wisdom slowly going nuts

    There is definitely going to be at least one expansion.

    One expansion! Not nearly enough money for Blizzard at least two.

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    #27  Edited By Extortion

    Was no one else a little disappointed that Tyrael becomes the angel of wisdom and not, say, Deckard Cain? I mean, hasn't the guy done enough over the last 3 games to have earned it? Tyrael's cool and all, I just think Cain would have been better suited for the role.

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    #28  Edited By Mnemoidian

    Finished my first playthrough sometime last week... but, some thoughts on the story:

    I thought the whole deal with Leah was pretty clever - you spend 3/4ths of the game being her buddy, only for her to be used like that at the very end. It's an effective story-telling device - create a relationship, and then abuse it. Bravo.

    Unfortunately, the marketing for the game pretty much ruined the surprise. Even though I've not followed the game very closely, I had noticed that Leah was a prominent character in the marketing, and I think most who have been listening to Diablo 3 news at all have heard the mumblings about Diablo looking rather feminine (wide hips, narrow waist, full chest) this time - with Blizzard's explanation being that Diablo's appearance is a reflection of it's host (with hints that Diablo itself not really being defineable as male nor female (bonus: I was thinking of this when that Aeon Flux-alike animated trailer was released recently. Huh.)

    Anyway... It had the potential of being a great gut-wrenching moment, but was slightly spoiled. Adria was handled much better - I'll admit I didn't see that coming on quite this level. I expected her to go too far - but still claim "being good", not that she had secretly been serving Diablo this entire time. I wonder exactly when Adria's supposedly shacked up with Aidan (Leoric's eldest son, older brother to Albrecht (Diablo host in first game)... also retconned to being the "Warrior class" (canon D2 host) in Diablo 1.), I don't know - probably just after the end of the first game - if I remember correctly, there wasn't much "in-world" time between the first 2 games (months?)... and Adria could, theoretically have not shown a pregnancy during that time.

    The whole bit with Tyrael taking his place on the Angiris council "as Wisdom" (I don't think he technically said "Archangel of"?) felt a bit arrogant - feels like a post you'd be promoted to, not one you'd take... and implies that the council status quo returned to "normal", somewhat? Can't imagine that Imperius would've been quiet about that...

    Uh... yeah, the more you dig, the more questions pop up. Typical Blizzard story-end, though - you deal with the problem at hand, but you raise a lot more questions. Definite room for expansions and sequels :P

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    #29  Edited By emergency

    @Mnemoidian said:

    Finished my first playthrough sometime last week... but, some thoughts on the story:

    I thought the whole deal with Leah was pretty clever - you spend 3/4ths of the game being her buddy, only for her to be used like that at the very end. It's an effective story-telling device - create a relationship, and then abuse it. Bravo.

    Unfortunately, the marketing for the game pretty much ruined the surprise. Even though I've not followed the game very closely, I had noticed that Leah was a prominent character in the marketing, and I think most who have been listening to Diablo 3 news at all have heard the mumblings about Diablo looking rather feminine (wide hips, narrow waist, full chest) this time - with Blizzard's explanation being that Diablo's appearance is a reflection of it's host (with hints that Diablo itself not really being defineable as male nor female (bonus: I was thinking of this when that Aeon Flux-alike animated trailer was released recently. Huh.)

    Anyway... It had the potential of being a great gut-wrenching moment, but was slightly spoiled. Adria was handled much better - I'll admit I didn't see that coming on quite this level. I expected her to go too far - but still claim "being good", not that she had secretly been serving Diablo this entire time. I wonder exactly when Adria's supposedly shacked up with Aidan (Leoric's eldest son, older brother to Albrecht (Diablo host in first game)... also retconned to being the "Warrior class" (canon D2 host) in Diablo 1.), I don't know - probably just after the end of the first game - if I remember correctly, there wasn't much "in-world" time between the first 2 games (months?)... and Adria could, theoretically have not shown a pregnancy during that time.

    The whole bit with Tyrael taking his place on the Angiris council "as Wisdom" (I don't think he technically said "Archangel of"?) felt a bit arrogant - feels like a post you'd be promoted to, not one you'd take... and implies that the council status quo returned to "normal", somewhat? Can't imagine that Imperius would've been quiet about that...

    Uh... yeah, the more you dig, the more questions pop up. Typical Blizzard story-end, though - you deal with the problem at hand, but you raise a lot more questions. Definite room for expansions and sequels :P

    Yeah, he's no longer an Archangel. He's Nephalem of Wisdom.

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    #30  Edited By Tennmuerti

    @emergency said:

    @Mnemoidian said:

    Finished my first playthrough sometime last week... but, some thoughts on the story:

    I thought the whole deal with Leah was pretty clever - you spend 3/4ths of the game being her buddy, only for her to be used like that at the very end. It's an effective story-telling device - create a relationship, and then abuse it. Bravo.

    Unfortunately, the marketing for the game pretty much ruined the surprise. Even though I've not followed the game very closely, I had noticed that Leah was a prominent character in the marketing, and I think most who have been listening to Diablo 3 news at all have heard the mumblings about Diablo looking rather feminine (wide hips, narrow waist, full chest) this time - with Blizzard's explanation being that Diablo's appearance is a reflection of it's host (with hints that Diablo itself not really being defineable as male nor female (bonus: I was thinking of this when that Aeon Flux-alike animated trailer was released recently. Huh.)

    Anyway... It had the potential of being a great gut-wrenching moment, but was slightly spoiled. Adria was handled much better - I'll admit I didn't see that coming on quite this level. I expected her to go too far - but still claim "being good", not that she had secretly been serving Diablo this entire time. I wonder exactly when Adria's supposedly shacked up with Aidan (Leoric's eldest son, older brother to Albrecht (Diablo host in first game)... also retconned to being the "Warrior class" (canon D2 host) in Diablo 1.), I don't know - probably just after the end of the first game - if I remember correctly, there wasn't much "in-world" time between the first 2 games (months?)... and Adria could, theoretically have not shown a pregnancy during that time.

    The whole bit with Tyrael taking his place on the Angiris council "as Wisdom" (I don't think he technically said "Archangel of"?) felt a bit arrogant - feels like a post you'd be promoted to, not one you'd take... and implies that the council status quo returned to "normal", somewhat? Can't imagine that Imperius would've been quiet about that...

    Uh... yeah, the more you dig, the more questions pop up. Typical Blizzard story-end, though - you deal with the problem at hand, but you raise a lot more questions. Definite room for expansions and sequels :P

    Yeah, he's no longer an Archangel. He's Nephalem of Wisdom.

    Well the catch is he is not really Nephalem either. In order to be Nephalem you need a mix of angel and demon blood, Tyrael has no demon blood in him, he cant by default be a Nephalem or as powerful as one. He turned humanoid sure and abandoned his Angel status but at the moment he is the only one ever to do so a "first" if you will and we don't really know what that would make him.

    Man i'm a goddamn nerd. :/

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    #31  Edited By emergency

    @Tennmuerti said:

    @emergency said:

    @Mnemoidian said:

    Finished my first playthrough sometime last week... but, some thoughts on the story:

    I thought the whole deal with Leah was pretty clever - you spend 3/4ths of the game being her buddy, only for her to be used like that at the very end. It's an effective story-telling device - create a relationship, and then abuse it. Bravo.

    Unfortunately, the marketing for the game pretty much ruined the surprise. Even though I've not followed the game very closely, I had noticed that Leah was a prominent character in the marketing, and I think most who have been listening to Diablo 3 news at all have heard the mumblings about Diablo looking rather feminine (wide hips, narrow waist, full chest) this time - with Blizzard's explanation being that Diablo's appearance is a reflection of it's host (with hints that Diablo itself not really being defineable as male nor female (bonus: I was thinking of this when that Aeon Flux-alike animated trailer was released recently. Huh.)

    Anyway... It had the potential of being a great gut-wrenching moment, but was slightly spoiled. Adria was handled much better - I'll admit I didn't see that coming on quite this level. I expected her to go too far - but still claim "being good", not that she had secretly been serving Diablo this entire time. I wonder exactly when Adria's supposedly shacked up with Aidan (Leoric's eldest son, older brother to Albrecht (Diablo host in first game)... also retconned to being the "Warrior class" (canon D2 host) in Diablo 1.), I don't know - probably just after the end of the first game - if I remember correctly, there wasn't much "in-world" time between the first 2 games (months?)... and Adria could, theoretically have not shown a pregnancy during that time.

    The whole bit with Tyrael taking his place on the Angiris council "as Wisdom" (I don't think he technically said "Archangel of"?) felt a bit arrogant - feels like a post you'd be promoted to, not one you'd take... and implies that the council status quo returned to "normal", somewhat? Can't imagine that Imperius would've been quiet about that...

    Uh... yeah, the more you dig, the more questions pop up. Typical Blizzard story-end, though - you deal with the problem at hand, but you raise a lot more questions. Definite room for expansions and sequels :P

    Yeah, he's no longer an Archangel. He's Nephalem of Wisdom.

    Well the catch is he is not really Nephalem either. In order to be Nephalem you need a mix of angel and demon blood, Tyrael has no demon blood in him, he cant by default be a Nephalem or as powerful as one. He turned humanoid sure and abandoned his Angel status but at the moment he is the only one ever to do so a "first" if you will and we don't really know what that would make him.

    Man i'm a goddamn nerd. :/

    Yeah you're right actually. I guess he is just a mortal angel then..

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    #32  Edited By StrawHatLaw13

    @Extortion said:

    Was no one else a little disappointed that Tyrael becomes the angel of wisdom and not, say, Deckard Cain? I mean, hasn't the guy done enough over the last 3 games to have earned it? Tyrael's cool and all, I just think Cain would have been better suited for the role.

    You make a great point. I still don't want him to be gone. :( That was the saddest part of the game for me. I still want to stay awhile and listen.

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    #33  Edited By stenchlord

    Quoted from D3 forums.

    This is from Leah's Journey video on Collectors Edition DVD.

    Chris Metzen: "Her spirit's still out there somewhere. There's a good girl there, that deserves to be saved and brought back from be abyss. So, while we don't have any clues yet what subsequent chapters will be (a couple of clues), I would bet that we would chase that down, because it feels right from the story level and it feels right from the character level."

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    #34  Edited By Mnemoidian

    @Tennmuerti: Yeah, that's a good point - what is Tyrael really now? Probably a the correct definition is a mortal (Arch)angel? Then again, you have to wonder what happened to the other angels when the Silver Arch was broken - we saw Imperius and his pals collapse... Unless that's something they can repair - does that have a permanent effect on the angels? Employing a leap of logic could land you with the idea of them also being "mortal angels" now.

    Trying to remember how Ithereal talks about Tyrael... if anything, there could probably be clues to Tyrael's status in how Itharael sees him. (in regards to being a being of choice or having a fixed fate)...

    Uh, then again - didn't Ithereal and Auriel have their wings in the post-Diablo scene? So maybe the whole losing their wings thing was temporary anyway (and the silver arch breaking was more of a flashbang effect than something immediately apparent).

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    #35  Edited By Tennmuerti

    @Mnemoidian: Well the Silver Arch that was destroyed is just a gate. The effect when they collapsed and lost their wings was due to Diablo starting to corrupt the Silver Spire from which the angels came from and are reborn. And yes as you point out the other Archangles had their wings in the end so i think it's safe to assume that the Silver Spire is a ok, we stopped D from corrupting it so Imperius should also be restored (the only catch is Imperius is pretty obviously corrupted by Diablo at this point)

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    #36  Edited By Mnemoidian

    @Tennmuerti: Ah, right - that makes sense. Must've missed the difference between the Silver Spire and Silver Arch in that late night session when I finished the game first ;)

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    #37  Edited By Gravier251

    Yeah, I was wondering about the Tyrael thing too. We are repeatedly told that mortal humans (Nethalem) of Sanctuary are kind of their own species, a half breed of angelic and demon blood capable of both good and evil. Not too sure how Tyrael essentially just announces he will become mortal and then transforms into a human, which is meant to be another species, gah.

    I didn't really like the Adria stuff and any twists were kind of glaringly obvious almost immediately. The second I saw Tyrael as a human I guessed who it was, figured Adria was evil, etc.

    I also really dislike what they did with Diablo. In Diablo 2, he essentially says one thing; "Not even death can save you from me". And he then proceeds to pretty visciously attack you. However on Diablo 3 he spends the *whole* of act 4 chiding us, "oh Nephalem, i'm going to win. You suck, my minion will beat you. Oh, you beat him? Well, you still suck, you can't catch me!" It does it *constantly*. Really grated on me by the second playthrough of that act.

    When a villain is essentially running full speed away from you hurling insults over their shoulder as you cut down their minions they are rather difficult to take seriously. He seemed a stronger more imposing entity in the past games than he is now as the hybrid sole prime evil. Come to think of it all the villains in Diablo 3 do that. Magdha, Azmodan, Diablo. They all spend the entire game mocking us from afar/as they flee.

    I prefer Diablo in his original true form, rather than the alien queen look he had. Due to the prime evil merger or the leah as a host thing.

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    #38  Edited By Mnemoidian

    @Gravier251 said:

    I also really dislike what they did with Diablo. In Diablo 2, he essentially says one thing; "Not even death can save you from me". And he then proceeds to pretty visciously attack you. However on Diablo 3 he spends the *whole* of act 4 chiding us, "oh Nephalem, i'm going to win. You suck, my minion will beat you. Oh, you beat him? Well, you still suck, you can't catch me!" It does it *constantly*. Really grated on me by the second playthrough of that act.

    When a villain is essentially running full speed away from you hurling insults over their shoulder as you cut down their minions they are rather difficult to take seriously. He seemed a stronger more imposing entity in the past games than he is now as the hybrid sole prime evil. Come to think of it all the villains in Diablo 3 do that. Magdha, Azmodan, Diablo. They all spend the entire game mocking us from afar/as they flee.

    That's a good point - especially considering the crazy plan that all of this Prime Evil thing must've been, manipulating his own demise twice just to become the prime evil, only to become something of a bit-villain as soon as his plan comes to any sort of fruition.

    Also isn't helped that it's hard to convey personal terror from a third person isometric perspective :)

    ... Interesting thought, the angels keep harping about how they "aren't immune to Terror", but... isn't Terror really about choice and making an easier choice rather than one that forces you deal with your fear ("valor")? Yet, the Angels also keep saying how they (and the demons) don't have free will to make their own choices?

    Or am I just going down a deep philosophical pit of doom where we're not supposed to venture? :)

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    #39  Edited By bunnymud

    Tyrael didn't want to be an angel again. He wished to remain mortal, not that I know if he could even become an angel again.

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    #40  Edited By nohthink

    I thought the ending (or story in general) was very disappointing.

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    #41  Edited By Aetos

    @HistoryInRust said:

    @NekuCTR said:

    @Dhutch: I thought that the dark wanderer was always Leorics son. They did retconn the character from the first game to be a named dude (even though you could have been a lady.)

    Yeah. I'd beaten Diablo 1 as a Rogue, so I was bummed when the "Hero of Tristam" was unequivocally a dude. But it seems like Blizzard wanted from the outset for Diablo to fall to the "warrior" from that game.

    They have explained what happened to the other characters from the first diablo though. As stated the Warrior became the Dark Wanderer. The Sorcerer became The Summoner and the Rogue became Blood Raven.

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    #42  Edited By Maluvin

    I love the game and CGI cutscenes were amazing and I'm expecting a lot of time romping around with my brother and kids in this game in the future. With that said, the level of storytelling was a step backwards compared to d2 IMO. I thought the story was too predictable and the ingame story telling wasn't quite up to the high bar that Blizzard is capable of.

    Also did anyone else feel that there was a bit of a disconnect between the tone of the rendered cutscenes and the story during normal gameplay? The cutscenes reminded me how Diablo has always felt as a series whereas the main game wasn't nearly as ominous in tone.

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    #43  Edited By Aelric

    My guess is they do a lord of destruction style expansion about trying to find and redeem Leah's soul. Unsure about the lore justification with all the prime and lesser evils gone with Diablo, but I'm sure they'll find something. My Barbarian character said that after killing Diablo he'd search all existence to redeem her soul, or something to that effect.

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    #44  Edited By Dhutch

    As far as story goes, in general- I was pretty annoyed at CONSTANTLY being told to do this or that, rather than the chapter be a more overarching goal. Act 1 was tons of tiny 'go here' 'go there' things, and you only end up in the Butcher's chamber because 'well, the coven likes evil places, so let's run around Leoric's manor and see if anything pops up...', whereas in D2, the end goal of each act was laid out clearly, and the boss was talked about a tittle bit, but never directly seen until the end. That really did make D3 less intense, because you know throughout each act that the boss was afraid of you.

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    #45  Edited By Jaktajj

    Adria's betrayal came out of the blue for me. It's quite clever because there are hints at her being evil all over act 1. I guess you completely forget about them by the time you meet her in act 2.

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    #46  Edited By kpaadet

    @el_tajij: I thought it was fairly obvious that Adria was evil, they keept talking about another leader in the Coven etc. Besides the fact shes a witch should also give it away, as witches in the Diablo universe are straight up evil. I was kinda surprised they decided to kill off Deckard Cain the only worthwhile character besides maybe Tyrael. Overall I felt the story was better in 1 & 2.

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    #47  Edited By Scrawnto

    I did feel bad for Leah when she was taken over by Diablo. Adria being evil was pretty heavily telegraphed though. Didn't surprise me at all. Same with Emperor Hakkan. It was preposterously obvious that he was belial. The story telling was pretty uneven. Many parts were terribly written, others were alright. The format of the game doesn't really lend itself to exposition though. The back story stuff was quite good, I thought, and the cutscenes were fantastically rendered. I think the loose ends were pretty clearly put in place to leave room for expansions/sequels.

    The 'souls' that you talk to while on the way to Diablo were illusions created by his minions. After they taunt or blame you for their deaths, they turn into demons for you to fight, so I don't think they were actually ghosts.

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    #48  Edited By GunslingerPanda

    I just finished the game. Why did people start referring to my monk as a "nephalem"? What the fuck is a nephalem? I thought I was paying attention...

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    @Tactical_Kill I actually didn't know that about The Summoner. Should've put it together.
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    #50  Edited By BrockNRolla

    The final act feels unfinished if you ask me.

    Why set up a story about the angels if they will play almost no role in it?

    I love the game as it's a blast to play, and I really enjoyed the storyline leading up to Act IV, but I feel like they didn't finish writing it.

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