Concept Art and More Info on Customization

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#1 Edited by Cincaid (2956 posts) -

Along with some (damn nice) concept art, there's additional info on customization of your character, followers, and perhaps a personal castle. (Copy-pasted some info from Kotaku)

Character customization will return "in a big way" for Dragon Age III according to a BioWare panel spilling details and concept art on next year's game at the Edmonton Comic & Entertainment Expo today.
Creative director Mike Laidlaw said that "customization is going to be bigger than Dragon Age Origins," to include "follower customization," according to producer Cameron Lee's live-tweeting of the event.
Asked how much control players would have over their character, lead writer David Gaider said "You will be human," before adding that "backgrounds will be in Dragon Age 3 even though you will be human, it's not playable but it does significant impact on the story." That again was according to Lee's twitter feed.
Other details trickling out suggest that you'll be able to take control of your own castle, and that the game will import prior character choices but, said executive producer Mark Darrah, "we're investigating some ways without save imports."

Edit: Another quote from the same panel:

Cinematic designer John Perry also stated that "he's had a longer pre-production on DA3 than any other BioWare project he's worked on". Perry also mentioned that "just one level in DA3 is as big as all of DA2's levels combined".

So any thoughts on this? Personally I was extremely disappointed in Dragon Age II, but I know some consider it to be perfectly fine. Apples and oranges, etc. Still, I have high hopes in this entry, and I really hope Bioware will make improvements necessary to the franchise. Also, I find the release date (Q4 2013) to be interesting, since most signs point to us having new consoles from Microsoft and Sony by then.

#2 Posted by casper_ (903 posts) -

i'm cautiously optimistic about this one. they've received so much negativity recently i'd imagine they would try to re-evaluate their process and maybe get back to some of the stuff that made their games unique.

little bit bummed you have to be human but if that's in service of reinforcing a strong story it's fine with me.

#3 Posted by Yummylee (21615 posts) -

''You will be human''

Well, this has certainly gotten off to a great start >=/

#4 Posted by ArtelinaRose (1851 posts) -

@Yummylee said:

''You will be human''

Well, this has certainly gotten off to a great start >=/

racist

#5 Posted by Genkkaku (735 posts) -

I really like that first Concept Art..

@Yummylee said:

''You will be human''

Well, this has certainly gotten off to a great start >=/

It sucks but \aAt least it's not 'You will be Hawke'.. And you can choose some sort of background.. I wish they let us play backgrounds like Origins, I've just started that again and I love how it get's you into your character.. They lost so much of what made the first one so special in making the 2nd

#6 Posted by N7 (3588 posts) -

Having finished Awakenings not too long ago, I was kind of bummed out to see you don't really get to utilize your "HQ" at all. What with a personal, customizable castle, the implications there are pretty sweet.
 
I am excited.

#7 Posted by Yummylee (21615 posts) -

@Genkkaku said:

I really like that first Concept Art..

@Yummylee said:

''You will be human''

Well, this has certainly gotten off to a great start >=/

It sucks but \aAt least it's not 'You will be Hawke'.. And you can choose some sort of background.. I wish they let us play backgrounds like Origins, I've just started that again and I love how it get's you into your character.. They lost so much of what made the first one so special in making the 2nd

I would wage a guess that your background selection will be similar to how it was in Mass Effect. Of course that's just speculation, and considering that they've stated that there'll be more player customisation than there was even in Origins--despite the fact that you're once again a bleedin' human character and that your background story won't be playable--has me a little intrigued to find out just what they have planned. Still... it's so damn annoying when games force you into the role of a human amidst a fantasy world made up of all kinds of races and cultures.

As for the concept art: Dungeons, castles and fields - woo, I guess?

#8 Posted by Genkkaku (735 posts) -

@Yummylee: Not being able to select a race or play your background I have to assume means the background choices are made up of various different possibilities for you characters and how they develop over the coarse of the game? And maybe with the human thing there trying to not hold you down to a specific story like 2 but do a more focused story? though I'd still like to select a race..

As for the concept art: Dungeons, castles and fields - woo, I guess?

I wish they would just put out screens, that would produce more buzz, they have to be at least that far if they have the name and aim for a 2013 date..

#9 Posted by Demoskinos (14822 posts) -

I really liked Dragon Age 2. It had its faults for sure but there are a ton of things that I approve of that it did to the series. Excited for Dragon Age 3. Now for what platform Im actually going to buy it on....hmm.

#10 Posted by Genkkaku (735 posts) -

@Demoskinos: PC all the way

#11 Posted by Demoskinos (14822 posts) -
@Genkkaku I actually played Dragon Age for the first time on PS3. That is what I initially bought Dragon Age 2 for as well. Leaning 360 though. I have the dragon age games on PC but I actually prefer them on console.
#12 Posted by Draugen (649 posts) -

Durn it!

It's a Dragon Age game, which immediately has me excited, but it's a bummer that they you can only play human. The origins from the original were some of my favorite features, and it sucks that they removed it from 2, and appear to be sticking with it. I just hope they make more out of these backgrounds than they did in Mass Effect. As in more than a couple of different follower lines of dialogue, and an occasional letter from your Admiral mother.

Still. I wants it!

#13 Posted by WinterSnowblind (7616 posts) -

Having to be human is a bit of a disappointment, but as long as we're not forced into being a fixed character again, I can work with that. Follower customisation is also pretty appealing, but they have a long way to go to make up for DA2 still. I'm being very cautious this time.

#14 Posted by Brodehouse (9949 posts) -

You will be forced into a fixed character, you'll just be able to pick a background. And you'll get eight lines of dialogue that are like "you're the Butcher of Torfan!" After you get past the prologue, most of the Origins boil down to that too. Only the human noble really gets any special conclusions.

Also, without the family dynamic in 2, that story is much worse. The best origins in the original were the ones that gave you a family and a history and didn't just treat you as if you leapt out of the rocks.

#15 Edited by Morningstar (2157 posts) -

Depends on what they mean by customization. It sounded previously like they meant colour schemes and stuff like that. Not interested. If they mean meaningful choices in skill trees and how I develop my characters then yes. But that doesn't sound like the new Bioware.

#16 Posted by Brodehouse (9949 posts) -

Also, you have to understand that any origin story precludes that character type being used as a party member. You pick up no city elves, Dalish elves, human nobles, dwarf commoners or nobles (Ohgren is sort of an in-betweener) ... Although you do pick up a Circle Mage, the one you do pick up is dead and ridden by a Fade spirit. Because those characters need to be original and interesting and aren't if you're one of them too. If your character was an Antivan Crow, there would be no point to Zevran. If you were a qunari, Sten wouldn't be a fascinating window into that culture, he would just be a waste of time.

Why do you think everyone's least favourite characters in ME1 were the alliance soldiers? Because you're already an alliance soldier. What can they tell you that might be interesting, what it's like to be an alliance soldier? When Garrus is telling you about life as a space cop and Wrex is a bounty hunter and Tali is a codex for the quarian people?

#17 Posted by Blimble (302 posts) -

@Brodehouse: I didn't actually play 2 but doesn't most of your family get killed off/disappears pretty early on? kinda hurts the family dynamic

#18 Posted by Brodehouse (9949 posts) -
@Blimble

@Brodehouse: I didn't actually play 2 but doesn't most of your family get killed off/disappears pretty early on? kinda hurts the family dynamic

No. Your father dies off-screen at some point, but he's brought up constantly. One of the DLCs is pretty much about him. One of your siblings dies and it affects things with you and your mother and remaining sibling. But it's not that "YOUR FAMILY IS AROUND" it's that they exist and it gives you an actual history. You didn't just leap up out of the rocks, you're the eldest child of Malcolm Hawke and Leanna Amell. The best origins in Origins were similar in establishing your history through your family instead of just throwing a character with no history into a situation.
#19 Edited by StarvingGamer (8227 posts) -

@Blimble: No, you just lose one of your siblings at the start depending on your class. Your other sibling and mother stick with you for a majority of the game and your uncle shows up early on and sort of hangs around as well.

EDIT: Back on topic, honestly the only thing that bothered me about DA2 was the recycled environments, and even then I felt it was a pretty minor issue. The rest of the game was great. I'm sure they won't repeat that same mistake for DA3 given the outcry so I am extra excited for it. Also I hope there's a Merrill.

#20 Posted by Demoskinos (14822 posts) -
@Brodehouse Pretty much agree with most of what you said. There were a few of the origin stories that fell flat because of that. The city elf in particular comes to mind as one of my least favorites.
#21 Posted by Blimble (302 posts) -

@Brodehouse: Does "hey your the kid of those guys" really change who you are that much though? From what I know (which is a bit limited) the only thing it really effects is that you get your uncle (or some relatives) house after doing a load of shit. Kind of just seems like a way to fake a history as all they have to do is one line saying you have a family every now and then that really doesn't have much to do with the plot and could easily not have been said without changing the story

#22 Posted by Brodehouse (9949 posts) -
@Demoskinos
@Brodehouse Pretty much agree with most of what you said. There were a few of the origin stories that fell flat because of that. The city elf in particular comes to mind as one of my least favorites.
Yeah, like I REALLY love the idea of playing a street kid from the ghetto that grows up to save the entire Goddamn world, that story has a great arc to it in theory... But there's only one point in that game where it feels like it matters at all who you were before being a Grey Warden. It's even worse for the dwarf commoner.
#23 Posted by Hailinel (24709 posts) -

"You will be human...."

Fuck you, Laidlaw.

#24 Posted by Hungry (165 posts) -

As someone who has recently been playing Dragon Age 2 after "stealing" it from EA with that free coupon deal, I have to say that I am looking at Dragon Age 3 with incredible interest. Not to play it, per se, but academically. Honestly, there are maybe like two or three things done right in Dragon Age 2. Everything else in the game is fucking awful. The awful things happen to refer to the combat and the systems that underlie it, the technical things (like the art assets) due to the time limitations, and the last being the main plot and the main character. Dragon Age 2 was incredibly sub-par, and I felt like Mass Effect 3 was pretty mediocre, so I don't have a lot of faith in Dragon Age 3.

However, Bioware has gotten such a bad rap from people for these games I find it incredibly interesting to see how they respond (if at all) to all of the whini-err... valid criticism.

#25 Posted by Demoskinos (14822 posts) -
@Brodehouse The Human Noble was actually great especially if you played a female character. You can marry Alistair and become queen of you play your cards right which is fugggin awesome.
#26 Posted by Brodehouse (9949 posts) -
@Blimble

@Brodehouse: Does "hey your the kid of those guys" really change who you are that much though? From what I know (which is a bit limited) the only thing it really effects is that you get your uncle (or some relatives) house after doing a load of shit. Kind of just seems like a way to fake a history as all they have to do is one line saying you have a family every now and then that really doesn't have much to do with the plot and could easily not have been said without changing the story

That entire game revolves around your family (aside from the qunari interlude in the middle). Not just within the story but to the player as well, in the numerous permutations of your sibling and what happens to them throughout the story. The entire templar-mage war decision can rest on it.

If you just want to believe there's absolutely nothing good about that game no way no how forever ever ever, I won't stop you. But the family dynamic in 2 is much better than just giving you a race slider and then adding "and then the darkspawn chased you to Kirkwall".
#27 Posted by StarvingGamer (8227 posts) -

@Blimble: It gives Hawke a lot of definition, far beyond simple lineage, and also sets the foundation for a lot of your Hawke's personality. From a mechanical standpoint, no, the presence of your family doesn't change much outside of having either a mage or warrior to take with you into battle and a handful of family-centric questslines you can follow. But they provide the story with a fullness that couldn't be achieved otherwise. Many of the major sub-plots, and a number of potential breaking poings, are focused around Hawke's family.

#28 Posted by Brodehouse (9949 posts) -
@Demoskinos
@Brodehouse The Human Noble was actually great especially if you played a female character. You can marry Alistair and become queen of you play your cards right which is fugggin awesome.
The human noble probably should've just been the default, because it has way more options and impact than any other origin by far.

I'm actually playing through Origins again over the last few months, just got to the final battle this morning. I hope the third game has something that feels more like the Landsmeet/Denerim portion of that game. When your uncovering loghain's crimes and the imprisonment of his enemies, you feel like you're building to something and using your wits. The 'unite the armies' parts mostly feel like you're going through _extremely long dungeons_ because it said so. Which is great for Dave and people who love combat, but kind of meh for people who like story.
#29 Posted by Demoskinos (14822 posts) -
@Brodehouse Yeah. I think I read somewhere there are like 12 or so possible outcomes for the landsmeet which is pretty nuts.
#30 Posted by N7 (3588 posts) -
@Demoskinos: I beat Origins like a week ago, and yeah, it was fucking crazy. Depending on if the secret companion lives or dies, who kills him, if you recruit him, of you are a lady and get with Alistair and become queen.
 
It was pretty awesome though.
 
REALLY interested in seeing how they carry all of those possibilities into the DA3. How the hell does meeting up with the Warden work if she's the queen? But really, I guess that wouldn't end up mattering much since you are in a country on the other side of the world.
 
All I want is to see my bros and broettes so I can know what they've been doing. Also my old player characters. If I could see Hawke team up with the Warden team up in a Hulk Hogan/Macho Man Randy Savage tagteam of proportions that don't yet exist, I will be sold a thousand times over.
#31 Posted by Animasta (14691 posts) -

@Hailinel said:

"You will be human...."

Fuck you, Laidlaw.

pretty sure you'll be working for the chantry for this (as far as I've heard) and since the chantry is p. racist being an elf or a dwarf would make no sense.

but hey let's all just judge a game before we actually see it that sounds like a smart thing to do

#32 Posted by Hailinel (24709 posts) -

@Animasta said:

@Hailinel said:

"You will be human...."

Fuck you, Laidlaw.

pretty sure you'll be working for the chantry for this (as far as I've heard) and since the chantry is p. racist being an elf or a dwarf would make no sense.

but hey let's all just judge a game before we actually see it that sounds like a smart thing to do

Uh, no.

Their taking away the multiple race choices in DA2 was one of my main issues with it. If they're still forcing players to be human in DA3, then fuck them, I'm out. They obviously didn't learn enough.

#33 Posted by Animasta (14691 posts) -

@Hailinel said:

@Animasta said:

@Hailinel said:

"You will be human...."

Fuck you, Laidlaw.

pretty sure you'll be working for the chantry for this (as far as I've heard) and since the chantry is p. racist being an elf or a dwarf would make no sense.

but hey let's all just judge a game before we actually see it that sounds like a smart thing to do

Uh, no.

Their taking away the multiple race choices in DA2 was one of my main issues with it. If they're still forcing players to be human in DA3, then fuck them, I'm out. They obviously didn't learn enough.

that's still really fucking dumb but whatever

(also all my post is accurate because you are judging, the chantry IS racist, and bloo bloo bloo)

#34 Posted by Phatmac (5726 posts) -

Cool. Looking forward to DA3.

#35 Posted by Hailinel (24709 posts) -

@Animasta said:

@Hailinel said:

@Animasta said:

@Hailinel said:

"You will be human...."

Fuck you, Laidlaw.

pretty sure you'll be working for the chantry for this (as far as I've heard) and since the chantry is p. racist being an elf or a dwarf would make no sense.

but hey let's all just judge a game before we actually see it that sounds like a smart thing to do

Uh, no.

Their taking away the multiple race choices in DA2 was one of my main issues with it. If they're still forcing players to be human in DA3, then fuck them, I'm out. They obviously didn't learn enough.

that's still really fucking dumb but whatever

(also all my post is accurate because you are judging, the chantry IS racist, and bloo bloo bloo)

I'm not judging. I had previously said that if race choice wasn't brought back for DA3, I wouldn't play it. I intend to follow through on that promise. If that's a problem for you, why do you care?

#36 Posted by FoolishChaos (437 posts) -

I...

It makes me kinda sad that people don't want to play non-voiced protagonists anymore. I have to assume that's the main reason for sticking with "only human".

There was one moment in DA2 where I said "Okay, I get why they wanted to have a single voiced protagainst." It was a pretty powerful moment.

That said, I experienced similar things with the dwarf and human noble storylines in DA:O.

#37 Posted by Animasta (14691 posts) -

@Hailinel said:

@Animasta said:

@Hailinel said:

@Animasta said:

@Hailinel said:

"You will be human...."

Fuck you, Laidlaw.

pretty sure you'll be working for the chantry for this (as far as I've heard) and since the chantry is p. racist being an elf or a dwarf would make no sense.

but hey let's all just judge a game before we actually see it that sounds like a smart thing to do

Uh, no.

Their taking away the multiple race choices in DA2 was one of my main issues with it. If they're still forcing players to be human in DA3, then fuck them, I'm out. They obviously didn't learn enough.

that's still really fucking dumb but whatever

(also all my post is accurate because you are judging, the chantry IS racist, and bloo bloo bloo)

I'm not judging. I had previously said that if race choice wasn't brought back for DA3, I wouldn't play it. I intend to follow through on that promise. If that's a problem for you, why do you care?

why does anyone care about anything? I'm interested to know why you wouldn't play a game because of something so incredibly minor.

Why couldn't I play KOTOR as a Twilek?

#38 Posted by Irvandus (2878 posts) -

Cautiously optimistic.

#39 Posted by Brodehouse (9949 posts) -
@Animasta the Chantry isn't racist, its just elves and dwarves are _rarely_ Andrastians. Dwarves worship their ancestors or the Stone (and surface dwarves worship money) and Dalish worship their old gods. There are some city elves that are Andrastians. It's not a racial thing, it's religious.

And hell, compared to the qunari the Andrastians are downright tolerant.
#40 Posted by Hailinel (24709 posts) -

@Animasta said:

@Hailinel said:

@Animasta said:

@Hailinel said:

@Animasta said:

@Hailinel said:

"You will be human...."

Fuck you, Laidlaw.

pretty sure you'll be working for the chantry for this (as far as I've heard) and since the chantry is p. racist being an elf or a dwarf would make no sense.

but hey let's all just judge a game before we actually see it that sounds like a smart thing to do

Uh, no.

Their taking away the multiple race choices in DA2 was one of my main issues with it. If they're still forcing players to be human in DA3, then fuck them, I'm out. They obviously didn't learn enough.

that's still really fucking dumb but whatever

(also all my post is accurate because you are judging, the chantry IS racist, and bloo bloo bloo)

I'm not judging. I had previously said that if race choice wasn't brought back for DA3, I wouldn't play it. I intend to follow through on that promise. If that's a problem for you, why do you care?

why does anyone care about anything? I'm interested to know why you wouldn't play a game because of something so incredibly minor.

Why couldn't I play KOTOR as a Twilek?

Why can't I have the features I enjoyed the most in DAO?

#41 Posted by Brodehouse (9949 posts) -
@Hailinel the ability to play as an elf or dwarf was your favourite part of Dragon Age Origins? Not the dialogue, the plot, the setting, the characters, the gameplay, the art design, it was that you were an elf?
#42 Posted by Animasta (14691 posts) -

@Hailinel: ...because they wanted to make a different game that wasn't origins part 2? because it would take way longer to develop? (not that they shouldn't have taken longer with 2, granted)

was the ONLY thing you liked about origins was you could be an elf? Like when SMTIV revealed that it was going to have 2d combat I was sort of bummed but that was just one of the things I liked about Nocturne and got over it.

@Brodehouse: well the chantry did take one of the chants that was about elves out of the chant of light or whatever it was called.

#43 Posted by FoolishChaos (437 posts) -

@Animasta said:

why does anyone care about anything? I'm interested to know why you wouldn't play a game because of something so incredibly minor.

Why couldn't I play KOTOR as a Twilek?

I don't actually think its that minor. Maybe its because I come from a tabletop background when it comes to RPGs, but picking a race is a pretty big deal. But anyway...

Personally it just seems like more of a cue that bioware isn't interested in bringing back the things I loved about origins. If the human options vary as much as some of the race origins then its less of an issue, but I still wonder why they think they can't make it work.

I'll be buying it regardless. DA:O is one of my favorite, if not my #1, game in recent memory. Just looking to get some of that magic back

#44 Posted by casper_ (903 posts) -

i guess im gonna have to invest in Elf Simulator 2013 to get my elf livin fix

#45 Posted by Animasta (14691 posts) -

@FoolishChaos said:

@Animasta said:

why does anyone care about anything? I'm interested to know why you wouldn't play a game because of something so incredibly minor.

Why couldn't I play KOTOR as a Twilek?

I don't actually think its that minor. Maybe its because I come from a tabletop background when it comes to RPGs, but picking a race is a pretty big deal. But anyway...

Personally it just seems like more of a cue that bioware isn't interested in bringing back the things I loved about origins. If the human options vary as much as some of the race origins then its less of an issue, but I still wonder why they think they can't make it work.

I'll be buying it regardless. DA:O is one of my favorite, if not my #1, game in recent memory. Just looking to get some of that magic back

it really wasn't THAT big of a deal though, the actual race part of origins. The origins themselves were a much bigger factor. I played a elven mage and a human mage and the only mention of my race was when I ran into the dalish (as an elf). So if the backgrounds themselves are varied enough, than the race doesn't REALLY matter.

#46 Edited by Encephalon (1260 posts) -

DA3 seems like it'll be a pretty crucial game for Bioware. Not at all intending to play it, but I'm interested in seeing how they navigate the maelstrom of negativity that has engulfed them in the last couple of years.

No non-human PCs seems like a very dubious start, at least to me personally, but I wonder how much that even matters in the larger picture. I'll bet the decision to go all human in DA2 was at least partly informed by data gathered from Origins.

#47 Posted by Hailinel (24709 posts) -

@Brodehouse said:

@Hailinel the ability to play as an elf or dwarf was your favourite part of Dragon Age Origins? Not the dialogue, the plot, the setting, the characters, the gameplay, the art design, it was that you were an elf?

It's ONE of the features I enjoyed most. Jesus.

@Animasta: There were a lot of things I liked about Origins, but the various playable races and origins were a big part of that. Going from that to Commander Champion Shepard Hawke of Kirkwall was not what I wanted in the least.

#48 Posted by MariachiMacabre (7096 posts) -
@Yummylee

''You will be human''

Well, this has certainly gotten off to a great start >=/

My thoughts exactly. Especially considering how strong the Dwarven origins were in DA:O.
#49 Posted by casper_ (903 posts) -

@Animasta: to be fair the mage origins are basically the same all around while the other races/class combos have much more varied intros.

#50 Edited by Animasta (14691 posts) -

@Hailinel said:

@Brodehouse said:

@Hailinel the ability to play as an elf or dwarf was your favourite part of Dragon Age Origins? Not the dialogue, the plot, the setting, the characters, the gameplay, the art design, it was that you were an elf?

It's ONE of the features I enjoyed most. Jesus.

@Animasta: There were a lot of things I liked about Origins, but the various playable races and origins were a big part of that. Going from that to Commander Champion Shepard Hawke of Kirkwall was not what I wanted in the least.

Then maybe you should wait until we actually see the game before writing it off? They said they're going to have varying backgrounds. you might even consider them non playable origins. Entirely possible that they're going to be varied enough to satisfy, even if there aren't going to be playable elves and dwarves.

and I like how you think that just because Hawke was like Shepard that they're going to do the exact same thing (unless you just assume that, because they'll have a voice that automatically makes them commander shepard)

@casperhertzog: that's my point though! The origins themselves played a bigger deal than the race that they signified.

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