" I suggest trying action-RPGs like Borderlands. "

I just wanted to post something, because I feel I need to 'atone' myself. 
 
I have given Bioware games a lot of slack on these forums in the past, but I have been investing some serious time into Dragon Age : Origins Ultimate Edition over Christmas and I feel that I am 'finally' getting Bioware games. I think Dragon Age starts very slow , but i'm about 12 hours in now and the pacing is picking up, and the story is getting very interesting and compelling. I just bought Mass Effect 1 & 2, and am genuinely looking forward to playing both. 

Yeah I can't get into Bioware made games either. 

Maybe you're like me and prefer RPG's with same actual depth to them.

Dear Strangers, 
I downloaded the Dragon Age 2 demo yesterday and I have been enjoying it a heap! 
And when I say 'a heap' I mean A HEAP! - 5 times through to be exact. 
It's safe to say I'll be buying this one (for PC) and may post my thoughts in the Dragon Age 2 forum (if ya give a rats)
I think the biggest positive impression it's had on me so far is the suped up-break-neck-battle speed. 
 
Faithfully, 
Now Nerdy Enough

How can you possibly get lost in Mass Effect? That game funnels you down the right path from beginning to end.

Being nerdy has nothing to do with it, you just don't like the games.

" Maybe you're like me and prefer RPG's with same actual depth to them. "

I understand, I wish I liked the old school RPG's like Baldur's Gate and Icewind Dale, but I just can't play them. I didn't get into WRPG's until KotOR. Up until then I was just playing JRPG's (I was young). I've heard so many great tings about the story, but I just can't stand the pen and paper style gameplay and poor graphics. Compared to BG, KotOR moves really fast. KotOR is about the perfect speed for me when it comes to combat. Old school RPG gamers will say that BG and Fallout 1 and such have so much deeper combat, but I don't want to pause the game and definitely not want to sleep just to be able to cast a spell again. 
 
There are JRPG's that has a lot of strategy as well. They are not all like FF7 where you could pretty much just use attack the entire game. Many of the Shin Megami Tensei games require the use of tactics and thinking.

 I don't enjoy Bioware games because they usually have poor quest/gameplay design and an issue with repetition. I do enjoy the writing from time to time. Not enough to finish their games, though.
 
@starrjack1 said:

" @JJOR64 said: 

"  @Smersh:  I'm with you.  I had big hopes for Mass Effect 1 and I was really disappointed.  I hated the dialog trees that BioWare does and the combat just felt bad to me.  So in a nutshell: JRPG > WRPG in my book. "  

 
What bugs you about the dialog in Bioware games and what makes the dialog in JRPG's manageable or even good?  I had to think about that for a bit and I suppose in a lot of JRPG's you can skip most of the dialog, but if you really believe most Japanese game writing to be better than western game writing then you just have not played enough western games.  I love a good JRPG but I got my fill of melodrama in highschool.

To OP, you feel basically about RPG's how I feel about sports games. Depends on what you like, those are all great games but it's not your thing. No big deal, play what you like.