I'm really impressed by DW7.

Posted by kingzetta (4307 posts) -

I own every Koei warriors game there is, except the Troy one. After 10 hours with DW7 I think this is my favorite. It looks graphically fantastic, seeing Xu Zhu's massive gut rendered with such detail is actually pretty haunting. The cutscenes are easily the best in the series. For the first time ever I feel DW has a solid story with narrative. I'm also impressed by how the cutscenes go into gameplay without loading or even fading in and out. Rendu is dead thank you Koei and thank you god. The gloves are my favorite new weapon in the game, they sorta remind me of godhand in their ridiculousness. So after like 30 koei warriors games I'm still happy to support Koei.

#1 Posted by kingzetta (4307 posts) -

I own every Koei warriors game there is, except the Troy one. After 10 hours with DW7 I think this is my favorite. It looks graphically fantastic, seeing Xu Zhu's massive gut rendered with such detail is actually pretty haunting. The cutscenes are easily the best in the series. For the first time ever I feel DW has a solid story with narrative. I'm also impressed by how the cutscenes go into gameplay without loading or even fading in and out. Rendu is dead thank you Koei and thank you god. The gloves are my favorite new weapon in the game, they sorta remind me of godhand in their ridiculousness. So after like 30 koei warriors games I'm still happy to support Koei.

#2 Edited by Kyle (2323 posts) -
@kingzetta said:

" Well I suppose no one careing is better than a bunch of people saying "Dynasty Warriors sucks wahhh" "


Dynasty Warriors sucks wahhh
#3 Posted by StarvingGamer (8128 posts) -

I love me some Dynasty Warriors but in a time of tightening budgets I can't justify buying another one. 
 
Glad to hear it's good though :D Maybe when it hits the bargain bin I'll check it out.

#4 Posted by CoheedFavorHouse (670 posts) -

well thats encouraging to hear. i loved dynasty warriors beck in my ps2 days. cant really drop the 60 on this one, but i'll wait for when the price goes down

#5 Posted by Hailinel (24272 posts) -
@kingzetta said:
" Well I suppose no one careing is better than a bunch of people saying "Dynasty Warriors sucks wahhh" "
Don't worry, I think the staff had you covered on that front on the last Bombcast.
 
I need to pick DW7 up ASAP.  I've really liked what I've heard about that game, and given how they'd really been making changes to the formula in different formats with Troy and Samurai Warriors Chronicles, I'm more interested than ever.
#6 Posted by Guyzea (816 posts) -

How are the Yellow Turbans and Lu Bu doing??

#7 Posted by MooseyMcMan (10827 posts) -

I think it's pretty impressive that you got three sentences in a row to have the length physical length.  
 
And yeah, it's cool that this game is good. I guess. 

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#9 Posted by Robot_Sneakers (418 posts) -

I've heard a lot of good things about it so far. I like the series but haven't bought one since DW4, just rented them. But i think i might pick this one up.

#10 Posted by ch13696 (4582 posts) -

I liked Dynasty Warriors, but after they started releasing one after the other with the same story, it just gets repetitive. Maybe I'll check this one out.

#11 Edited by SlightConfuse (3963 posts) -

might give it a try  the last one i play was gundam and before that its was 5 i think. 

#12 Posted by TheBlackPigeon (314 posts) -

I'm just going to go out on a limb here and say that this is the best Dynasty Warriors since 3. 
 
I just finished the Shu campaign, and I nearly wept manly tears. : p

#13 Posted by President_Barackbar (3448 posts) -
@Hailinel said:
" @kingzetta said:
" Well I suppose no one careing is better than a bunch of people saying "Dynasty Warriors sucks wahhh" "
Don't worry, I think the staff had you covered on that front on the last Bombcast. "
Do you EVER have anything positive to say about people who criticize Japanese games?
#14 Posted by Hailinel (24272 posts) -

Just to give everyone an idea of what to expect:
 

  • The maligned renbu combat system from DW6 is out.
  • All characters now wield two weapons.
  • Stories are not character focused, but kingdom focused.  The character you play as is dependent on the stage, and character lifespans are appropriate (so no starting off at the Yellow Turban Rebellion and magically being around for every significant battle of the next eighty years).
  • There is now a fourth kingdom, Jin (the kingdom that rose from the three kingdoms at the end of the era) with its own story and characters.
#15 Posted by Hailinel (24272 posts) -
@President_Barackbar said:
" @Hailinel said:
" @kingzetta said:
" Well I suppose no one careing is better than a bunch of people saying "Dynasty Warriors sucks wahhh" "
Don't worry, I think the staff had you covered on that front on the last Bombcast. "
Do you EVER have anything positive to say about people who criticize Japanese games? "
Did you listen to the Bombcast?
#16 Posted by kingzetta (4307 posts) -
@Hailinel said:
" @kingzetta said:
" Well I suppose no one careing is better than a bunch of people saying "Dynasty Warriors sucks wahhh" "
Don't worry, I think the staff had you covered on that front on the last Bombcast.  I need to pick DW7 up ASAP.  I've really liked what I've heard about that game, and given how they'd really been making changes to the formula in different formats with Troy and Samurai Warriors Chronicles, I'm more interested than ever. "
I actually just realized they got rid of the pre-battle map screen.  That helps the flow immensely. 
#17 Posted by Hailinel (24272 posts) -
@kingzetta said:
" @Hailinel said:
" @kingzetta said:
" Well I suppose no one careing is better than a bunch of people saying "Dynasty Warriors sucks wahhh" "
Don't worry, I think the staff had you covered on that front on the last Bombcast.  I need to pick DW7 up ASAP.  I've really liked what I've heard about that game, and given how they'd really been making changes to the formula in different formats with Troy and Samurai Warriors Chronicles, I'm more interested than ever. "
I actually just realized they got rid of the pre-battle map screen.  That helps the flow immensely.  "
They still have the pre-battle map briefing in SW Chronicles, though that's really welcome given that you're constantly switching between up to four characters on the battlefield.  It's nice to know where everyone is at the stage's start.
#18 Posted by kingzetta (4307 posts) -
@TheBlackPigeon said:
" I'm just going to go out on a limb here and say that this is the best Dynasty Warriors since 3.   I just finished the Shu campaign, and I nearly wept manly tears. : p "
Yeah that final scene is nuts.
#19 Posted by keyhunter (3207 posts) -
@Kyle said:
" Dynasty Warriors sucks wahhh "
#20 Posted by EmuLeader (558 posts) -

Dynasty Warriors has always been a guilty pleasure for me.  I know its pretty repetitive, but seeing thousands of troops fall before my crazy powerful warlord is still fun. especially with a friend, working together to clear all of the encampments.

#21 Posted by DonChipotle (2714 posts) -

I love Dynasty Warriors. I'm not even gonna call it a guilty pleasure. I genuinely love that series, as crazy as it is. And DW7 is the best one. It is fantastic. I was worried about the Kingdom specific story, but god damn it is great. I've gone for 7 hours and I'm still on the first story and haven;t even touched Conquest mode. Game is fantastic.

#22 Posted by SlightConfuse (3963 posts) -
@EmuLeader: yea i enjoy destroying large armies with my power. I find it good in burstS(also i am sucker for samurai) 
#23 Posted by ryanwho (12082 posts) -
@ch13696 said:
" I liked Dynasty Warriors, but after they started releasing one after the other with the same story, it just gets repetitive. Maybe I'll check this one out. "
It is an it isn't. Its a rendition of 3 Kingdoms that manages to get more and more distorted with every game. But also, they pushed a generation ahead in the story. So there's a bit of new story stuff. But you play this cus the cutscenes are bonkers and for the general catharsis one feels after killing a thousand soldiers. 
#24 Posted by President_Barackbar (3448 posts) -
@Hailinel said:
" @President_Barackbar said:
" @Hailinel said:
" @kingzetta said:
" Well I suppose no one careing is better than a bunch of people saying "Dynasty Warriors sucks wahhh" "
Don't worry, I think the staff had you covered on that front on the last Bombcast. "
Do you EVER have anything positive to say about people who criticize Japanese games? "
Did you listen to the Bombcast? "
Of course I did. The guys have written off this new DW game because of the horrible showing the series has made in the past. And someone has yet to give a reason for why this game is better than previous outings. It just seems like any time anyone says anything negative about a product of Japan (not just this one), you get overly defensive and start attacking Western games or make some sort of snide remark about games people like.
#25 Posted by Hailinel (24272 posts) -
@President_Barackbar:  What does my comment regarding the staff's dismissive view of the game have to do with your taking umbrage with what I think about Japanese games in general?
#26 Posted by President_Barackbar (3448 posts) -
@Hailinel said:
" @President_Barackbar:  What does my comment regarding the staff's dismissive view of the game have to do with your taking umbrage with what I think about Japanese games in general? "
I just felt that they had a pretty legitimate and fair reaction to a series that by and large has done little to improve over the years and noticed that your particular denouncement of what the staff did follows a larger pattern of you being heavily critical of anyone who finds fault with Japanese games.
#27 Posted by Hailinel (24272 posts) -
@President_Barackbar said:
" @Hailinel said:
" @President_Barackbar:  What does my comment regarding the staff's dismissive view of the game have to do with your taking umbrage with what I think about Japanese games in general? "
I just felt that they had a pretty legitimate and fair reaction to a series that by and large has done little to improve over the years and noticed that your particular denouncement of what the staff did follows a larger pattern of you being heavily critical of anyone who finds fault with Japanese games. "
When was the last time that any of those guys actually sat down and tried to play one of the games in a non-joking manner for any significant duration of time?  They're about as qualified to pass judgment on Dynasty Warriors 7 as I am on Halo: Reach.  (i.e.: Not very.)  So don't try turning this debate into something that it's not.  If you want to talk about that, save it for another thread where it's more appropriate.
#28 Posted by President_Barackbar (3448 posts) -
@Hailinel:  Fair enough, I just think that there's plenty of room to be skeptical about a series as repetitive as Dynasty Warriors.
#29 Posted by StrawHatLaw13 (166 posts) -

Cool, can't wait to get mine from Gamefly,.  Those types of games, for me at least, were mostly only worth a rental, not $50-$60.  But from what I've heard this one seems to have somewhat more substance as a sequel. 

#30 Posted by McGhee (6094 posts) -

Been a long time since I played a game like this. This one seems similar but better. What do you Dynasty Warriors fans think of this? 
  

#31 Posted by Skald (4367 posts) -
@President_Barackbar said:
" @Hailinel:  Fair enough, I just think that there's plenty of room to be skeptical about a series as repetitive as Dynasty Warriors. "
I think that's pretty fair. I dismissed Saw 3D out of hand because I disliked the first six or so movies. 
 
Sometimes it's just fair to hate a franchise.
#32 Posted by ryanwho (12082 posts) -
@McGhee_the_Insomniac said:
" Been a long time since I played a game like this. This one seems similar but better. What do you Dynasty Warriors fans think of this? 
  
"
KUF is a different kind of game. Its more like Kessen 3 or Bladestorm (other Koei games). The dark elf was the only character that was fun to play in the first KUF I thought. What they do have in common is you can play through the same story through different perspectives, but unit deployment and management in KUF makes the game entirely different.
#33 Posted by Slaker117 (4835 posts) -

I feel like the continuing success of this series is the result of some sort of glitch in the human mind. I don't mean to insult the people who enjoy the games, you have the right to like whatever you want for whatever reason, and I'm not going to make a quality judgment because I haven't played one in years. It just surprises me that these games still get made in the modern era.

#34 Posted by MisterMouse (3544 posts) -

I have to admit that the samurai warriors is a guilty pleasure of mine, but It is cool to see some positive talk about this game!

#35 Posted by kingzetta (4307 posts) -
@McGhee_the_Insomniac said:

" Been a long time since I played a game like this. This one seems similar but better. What do you Dynasty Warriors fans think of this? 
  

"
I liked that game and ninety-nine nights
#36 Posted by Ninja (523 posts) -
@TheBlackPigeon said:
" I'm just going to go out on a limb here and say that this is the best Dynasty Warriors since 3.   I just finished the Shu campaign, and I nearly wept manly tears. : p "
Really? If so that's awesome, 3 is the best, it's actually one of my favourite games. I mean it didn't get bad reviews at the time it's just reviers have become jaded with two 'warriors' releases a year.
#37 Edited by TheBlackPigeon (314 posts) -
@Ninja: Zhao Yun drop kicks a horse in the intro, so you know Koei is getting serious this time!  XD
#38 Posted by Ninja (523 posts) -
@TheBlackPigeon:  That's pretty serious. I know nothing will ever feel like the yellow turban rebellion and hu lao gate the first time. The music in DW3 was so good too, I guess since it was my frist, getting to know the characters was cool too. Nothing can beat your first time right? I'm glad DW7 sounds better though, DW6 was a massive letdown.
#39 Posted by thehexeditor (1404 posts) -
@TheBlackPigeon said:
" @Ninja: Zhao Yun drop kicks a horse in the intro, so you know Koei is getting serious this time!  XD "
@TheBlackPigeon said:
" @Ninja: Zhao Yun drop kicks a horse in the intro "
@TheBlackPigeon said:
" drop kicks a horse"
Okay, now i'm interested.
#40 Posted by TheHT (11090 posts) -

How are the move sets? Do all/most of the characters feel different?

#41 Posted by kingzetta (4307 posts) -
@TheHT said:
" How are the move sets? Do all/most of the characters feel different? "
yes, cao cao is the subzero of the game
#42 Posted by InternetCrab (1504 posts) -

 
Yeah, loving it so far.

#43 Posted by Jalemar (6 posts) -
@Guyzea: Zhang Jiao is bald now...lol
#44 Posted by M_33 (527 posts) -

I'm glad there's still love for this series. 

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