Or Maybe I'm Just Crazy?

Or Maybe I'm Just Crazy?

On the whole, I kind of agree; I think a lot of the enthusiast press decided in the past year or so that Nintendo more or less failed to deliver the products that the people who follow them are interested in, having moved onto the more mainstream consumer. However, a lot of developers really are making neat things for the Wii. Yet the only place I've seen give Nintendo any due props was 1Up: between Jeremy's "What more can Nintendo do for you people?" blog post and the generally positive reviews and buzz that was given on Listen Up, though that was buried in the background of talk of Uncharted 2 and Modern Warfare 2.

Yes, it is probably unfair, but the general perception within industry followers appears to be one of "Nintendo isn't for us anymore." And it is easy to see how they came to the conclusion; by their industry actions, Nintendo more or less said "You're far less important to us than you ever have been." It is a bit of a mind-twist to see "core" games becoming niche on the console that is selling like wildfire still considering the recession/depression/economic collapse. So really, the reason that the enthusiast press stopped covering Nintendo in the same depth is because Nintendo really moved on to a cuter girlfriend.

As far as your PS...um, alright. Seems kinda random, and I think there are some larger issues to L4D2 than just the change to daytime, but have at your opinion.

Wii owners around here have attempted to discuss this before, but really, since the site doesn't try to cater to the Wii owners (yet pretends it does by having the proper sections and what not), of course the majority of the community here own or prefer other platforms and will therefor tear you a new one. Enjoy. I wouldn't be around either if it wasn't for the forums, the website does nothing for any of the platforms I own (PC & Wii).

Just be glad you get the occasional review of a decent title alongside all the trash talk about how there are no games other than casual shovelware. Thankfully there are a couple of fansites out there that do a good job of covering news (though it does make you feel dirty to visit fansites, but hey, you're forced to), and the video based websites don't make such distinctions so you can find the stuff you want. IGN had great coverage this year, even before E3, but there's not much buzz elsewhere. I get more news from NeoGAF, lol.

My biggest gripe is the lack of Motion Plus and Wii Sports Resort coverage, as that's the biggest showcase for it currently. There are barely any videos around, and the videos there are stupidly focus on just the screen so you can't see how well the motions are followed. Only Destructoid had a decent article about it, and IGN a couple of nice but not ideal videos. Sad, considering it's tech people can get as soon as next week...

Among the titles you mentioned you should also check out The Crystal Bearers, it had a great showing too, and was mentioned in the Nintendo conference, but few decided to go hands-on with it even though it was playable. You'll find me and a few others have made threads about many of these and other titles but really, if they're not on the main site, they don't get much exposure at all, and only the few "usual suspects" respond.

PS: Good to see you also own a PC (judging by the L4D2 reference) so all the "Wii-only-owning-fanboy-retard" comments will look stupid.

Okay... so at least I'm not alone on this.. That's good to know. Although bad at the same time because it means I'm right. I suppose I'll just have to suck it up and deal with it. I'll keep looking up games on Nintendo systems as far and wide as I can to make sure good games don't slip on by me. Speaking of which if you missed the Wii Ware release of FFIV: The Later Years (as I call it), it's a really great game if you can appreciate the old sprite-based Final Fantasies, as I do.

And yes I do have play PC games. I enjoy them, as I enjoy games on all systems. All told I probably play at least 10 to 15 hours a week playing either L4D or Team Fortress 2 alone. But I don't know why I'm mentioning that. :/

I personally have seen more coverage of the upcoming Wii Silent Hill game than Modern Warfare 2.  It's all in your head.  There are some games getting almost no coverage, but it's probably their presence on the show floor (not even a SINGLE video of Perfect Dark XBLA for example).

You see what you want to see. I personally saw a lot of stuff about Red Steel 2, although that's because I went looking for it. Scribblenauts discussions and articles have also been popping up all over the place, if you pay attention to the right places. All in all, they may be good games, but nobody gives a shit about them or really wants to play them on the Wii (the DS is another story). That's all it comes down to. Is that fair to the Wii? No, not really. Do I care? Honestly, no. Is it a double standard? No? How would that be a double standard? People dislike playing games on the Wii as opposed to playing them on other systems, and many people who follow those people and enjoy reading their opinions share those opinions, so they are hypocrites or holders of a double standard? I don't get it.

My point is simply that, I feel, as a games enthusiast, it's my responsibility to find and enjoy as many games as possible. It's a need that I have, and I'll admit it's probably a crazy one. But then that makes it my opinion, so why does other people's opinions become valid and mine not? And I'm told that I only see what I want to see, but that's not entirely true because I'm looking pretty hard at everything. I'm not taking strict notes, no, but I think my years studying journalism and practices thereof have left me pretty capable of looking at things from an objective angle. I'm not saying Wii games are better one way or another, I'm saying there are games that are doing new and interesting things that aren't being looked at as much as other games, pure and simple.

Subjectively speaking, I think not looking at the Wii is due to a bias that most people have, and it's a stupid one that I think they need to get the fuck over.

Most of the gaming press are interested in writing about GAMING...not mini-game collections.  Sure, they showed TRAILERS for Mario Galaxy 2, New Super Mario Bros., and Metroid: Other M at the show.  What more can someone honestly write about it?  What, you want them to go on some 18-page article and say "ZOMG ZOMG ZOMG ZOMG AWESOMESAWCE NINTENDO WOOT WOOT!".  Guess what?  The gaming press wants to write about what the readers want to read about...and the majority of the readers always talk about 360 and PS3 games.  There is a handful that ever seem to speak up and say "ooohhh, cover Nintendo plox, kthxbai".

Keep in mind it's a post-Wii Music world.....

And a lot of bad will toward Nintendo carried over from last year's E3.

You guys are just basically proving me right. Ignorance perceives the Wii as useless and ignorable and your attitudes towards the whole thing? Only showing that it's true. Well whatever, at this point I'm just going to laugh my way to the bank (so to speak, because I'm poor as hell) while I'm playing top-quality titles on all the systems. I suppose I should just let this all go and do what the games press does: not give a shit. I know I'm having fun, and god forbid I just wish other people could experience awesome games.

I'm only trying to help, but your hostile attitudes say it all. Thank you. Jerks.

Warned you dude. Tear you a new one ;)

I've never heard of The Grinder, but I've heard/seen plenty of the other Wii stuff you mentioned and more.

I am not getting into a pointless argument Dr, but I will say that I agree and fully support your views.  The passive aggressive stuff you are seeing here is shared in the mainstream press.  It is all about demeaning and denigrating the Wii and Nintendo.  How can their be so many fans of Persona 3 & 4 here, yet they bag out the Wii as being crap and underpowered.  The Wii could eat Persona 4 and still have room for desert.  Double standards indeed.

Almost every gaming news outlet ( gamesradar, IGN, gamespot, USAtoday gaming, 1up, and joystiq)  all talked about golden sun DS and the new super mario brothers. Either on their podcast or through an article. Most of them also talked about scribblenats and MG2. Maybe those same "biased" news outlets didnt cover the game like the grinder cause they saw it and thought it was bad? I mean it is made by High Voltage and they were gettting alot of coverage for the conduit.
The problem with the Wii isnt in the coverage. Its in the fact that 85% or more of their games are complete trash and have the word party in the title.

P.S. I played No More Heroes and loved it, MadWorld .....not so much

Wii has an image problem. Nintendo's marketing department aimed it at old folks, soccer moms and babies. That doesn't mean the console is bad or that the games are bad (it has some of the most polished games of this generation), but it means the gaming community's perception is that it's not for us, and Nintendo just keeps enforcing that over and over again.

So it's not the press that's at fault, it's the community, and the community attitude is affected by the marketing decisions of Nintendo and its third parties. The only people who can sort this out is Nintendo, and they're quite happy exploiting the wide ocean of "MAYBE" and "NEVER" while Sony and - to a lesser extent - Microsoft play in the "ACTIVE" paddling pool.

I think Red Steel 2 looks pretty awful, mainly because of the poor use of motion plus (or at least that's what people have been saying about it).  But Brad seemed pretty up on Silent Hill and Jeff has been saying New Super Mario looks amazing.  I completely agree about Scribblenauts, that's my most anticipated game at the moment...but I've seen it get a fair amount of attention.  Joystiq said it was the game of the show for a lot of them (I dunno if it officially was or not though), and Kotaku and Destructoid have been saying it's awesome also.